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KamikadzeBoy
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland17 Posts
April 16 2012 10:37 GMT
#1
Situation happened yesterday in sc2cl league. Im not complaining about a match which has been lost or anything, no crying over here. Just googled his nickname and found..a bit more topics / reps where people were calling him a maphacker. (like vs. Acer.Bly) - funny was that when he is loosing hes calling everyone arround a hacker.

Mostly I'm gonna to talk about Daybreak:
Both of them are going FE. tisalie is not scouting it, but he has forced a bunker on natural od bandit - he didnt even seen if there is Nexus? Is bandit going for FE? Blind play. Minuts later hes is sending single marauders to kill proxy pylons / probes nearly his base - OKAY, it can be normal, it is worth of seaching for proxy pylons etc. bandit is teching up. Collossus would be fine? Not, tisalie has started 2 and 4 viking on starport BEFORE making a single medivac. 0 scout, 0 scans on bandits base, nothing :D Okay.. maybe HT? Just in a moment after toss started HT tech, tisalie started producing ghosts. Later tisalie is going out with half of his army to kill a proxy pylon at 5hour, but its a kidn fo magic, he returns back before he kills it (Bandit goes out for push, tisalie dont know abotu it, but better lets go back to base xd). As a bonus, just before fight happened and tisalie should now know about it before he scan toss army - 90% of time camera was sitting on his army. Sevents sence?

Tal'Darim Altar:
As far as we know, tisalie is a kidn of illusionist and he interest in magic. Magically he know, that he doesnt need viking before medivacs this time - he didnt even make a single viking after first medivacs (bandit is not going for collosus tech - tisalie doesnt scouted it). Just at a time, when bandit goes out with a push tisalie has started building 2 additional bunkers (game1 fast viking + 1 bunker against fast collosus push, game2 3bunkers defence against 4gate - ideal counters, 0 scout, 0 information, nothing). As a bonus here, when bandit started first collosus, tisalie started +1 air weapons upg - no scan xdddd

http://drop.sc/160926 - Daybreak
http://drop.sc/160927 - TDA
pluu.mooh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Austria142 Posts
April 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#2
seems fishy but I guess there is a thread regarding this?
KamikadzeBoy
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland17 Posts
April 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#3
There is a thread regarding this?;d Sorry, not found before posted this one.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 10:55:35
April 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#4
The TL hacker database is no longer open as it didn't have any effect and Blizz showed no interest in it, so there is no point in reporting this guy here, report him to Blizzard and move on.
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
April 16 2012 11:05 GMT
#5
maphacks are spreading and people are saying that the situation now is alright. The fuck is alright.
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
April 16 2012 11:08 GMT
#6
season 6 gm here : been playing with this guy many times and he does maphack yes.
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
KamikadzeBoy
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 11:11:54
April 16 2012 11:08 GMT
#7
Just wanted to have someone else opinion abotu those replays before we make a protest of match in sc2cl / make a support ticket at battle.net (support ticket guarantee 100% check uploaded replay, raport in game - not).

"Krolu (GM season 6): yeah, this guy is a maphacker. Played against him 2 times. I have replays where hes going blind counter me everytime. Once i thought hes a mphacker i decided to go FE robo DT - he made (without scout) about 6 turrets in base to defende DTs from warpprism. I'll upload those replays later if needed."

Lolz :< !
PaPoolee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands660 Posts
April 16 2012 11:11 GMT
#8
Yes he does maphack, played him in season 4 and he was a maphacker then as well its so obvious.
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 12:01:34
April 16 2012 11:40 GMT
#9
Toptisale had so silly blind build order

But you are so terrible also, much more terrible then toptisalie

Your luck that i played vs your zerg yesterday..vs you it will be 10 min rape, your skill is top dia/low ml max
Taldarim game is n/c, id like to say your place is in bronze

So thats not maphack, thats silly terran vs very silly toss
everything will work vs you, even blind play, just take a look at your terrible macro, build order, structure placement, map control, and micro
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
April 16 2012 11:47 GMT
#10
laV i think you should chill,your nerdrage has nothing to do with this topic and has even less to do with the fact that toptisalie maphacks,whether his opponent played poorly or not,that means nothing.I guess u lost vs "your noob zerg yesterday" which makes ur post even more amusing.
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 12:29:23
April 16 2012 11:49 GMT
#11
no, i did not lost to this zerg of course

but okay, im not 100% sure that toptisalie is not mh
( i care about it only because he is my clan member, but he is a new member )

AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 12:30:16
April 16 2012 12:05 GMT
#12
I discussed that with my team leader and we will make an investigation, thank your for your topic

I'll not take back my words about protoss, because it really was my point of view, but ill freeze my mind for a while
I really wondered a bit when i saw toptisalie victory, but protoss play was enough for me (for example look at final battle on taldarim, lol)

We've just received some news from russian community about this
Ill defend my player, but in case of cheats I'm not going to spare him

#bGr.MetHiX i made some changes to my post about zerg so you can update yours if u want
feel a bit sorry about it, because everything was ok yesterday
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
KamikadzeBoy
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 12:29:11
April 16 2012 12:23 GMT
#13
I was not playing on this match actually, just watched the stream and interested in. His moves weer really strange, many GMs are talking now that hes a MH, like.. d/k.. look here:

http://drop.sc/53304
http://starcraft2.fi/replay/showReplay.php?replay=5913&additional

What else?
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 16 2012 12:31 GMT
#14
Unfortunately we can't do much here about this, report to blizzard.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
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