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Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 16 2012 06:44 GMT
#5
/in

I will not be modkilled!
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 17 2012 04:26 GMT
#104
Hey Prob, wanna make a list of everyone's location before the game starts this time so we don't have to deal with scum FoSing you for it?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#223
Hey everyone,

Just /confirming now. I've read through the thread and will be putting together some thoughts shortly.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 18 2012 20:59 GMT
#236
On March 19 2012 05:25 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:18 Snarfs wrote:
Hey everyone,

Just /confirming now. I've read through the thread and will be putting together some thoughts shortly.

It's been 2 hours since then, still gathering your thoughts?

Sorry, I'm trying to play EVE with my dad while reading new replies as they come up.

I'm not liking Tobon, for his one post which a couple people called out as being pretty terrible and I had the same feeling reading it, but I'll give him that he's probably learning.

I'm also not liking johnnywup. Not only do we have everything that everyone else is mentioning, but also his vanilla town claim seems off.

As I mentioned though, this doesn't quite have my full attention so I'm going to wait until later on this evening when I've actually had a chance to contribute to the topic before I throw my vote on anyone. I like to put a little more effort into divulging my thoughts before voting someone and I just don't have time right now.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 18 2012 22:19 GMT
#256
Just finished up my gaming session, will write something up within 2 hours.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 18 2012 23:02 GMT
#279
I think Nemesis would be a good day 1 lynch.

His posts have been quite uninspiring up until this point. Most of his posts are simply asking questions or pointing out information, such as who hasn't posted.

Hmmm, it seems that snarfs and sandroba hasn't posted yet. Hopefully they don't get modkilled as 18 hours have passed since the game has started.

This particularly doesn't seem like something a towny would say.

He also conveniently skips over comments directed towards himself (VE's made a couple, Sandroba has now as well).

His vote is against someone who had given a valid excuse for why he hasn't posted yet (it was his mom's birthday yesterday and he probably just got into work today).

I'm really not impressed with his filter overall aside from the defense of Johnny. I think he's the best candidate so far though.

#Vote Nemesis
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 18 2012 23:15 GMT
#283
Oops, forgot a number sign:

##Vote Nemesis
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 00:03 GMT
#288
On March 19 2012 08:35 Nemesis wrote:
##Unvote: Probulous

I have to go for a bit for now, but when I come back I'll give you guys my scum read so far.


snarfs, mind pointing out which comments I skipped that VE made? I ignored sandroba's question of "what's the point of the question?" because I thought that it was indeed a pretty useless question and wasn't very well thought out. If you are talking about this:

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let me ask you this Nemesis. How would you expect a newbScum to react to the pressure I've been applying? You seem to know exactly how a newbTown would react, so surely the converse is true as well, yes?

I addressed it, but didn't answer it as he expected because it was a stupid question. As I said, what he found to be a scumtell was really just a null tell. I didn't say that it was a newb town tell as he seems to imply with his question.

Yes, that was the one I was referring to. From VE's follow up, he made it sound like you were dodging a question, but I see now that you did in fact explain that it was just null tells, not necessarily scum/town.

Thank you for explaining your thoughts on the question to sandroba.

I am looking forward to getting your scum read as I think that providing some content of the sort would help me ease this feeling that you aren't contributing very much but are trying to make it seem like you are.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 17:05 GMT
#394
Sorry guys, just got into work and finished reading the thread (Monday morning productivity). I was lying on my couch watching about 7 episodes of the wire and munching on crackers yesterday, recovering from St. Patty's (hence my absense). I'll try and weigh in on some things now.

First off, I don't think Nemesis is going down today, and I liked how collected he was in responding to my vote so that's off. He didn't get overly emotional or respond irrationally, which is what I would have expected from scum in his position.

##Unvote Nemesis

I liked Nemesis and Probulous's votes on VE. I think since thoses votes we've seen a bit better VE.

I'm not going to hop on the Jackal lynch because his play was similar in Wiggles mini and he ended up being shot by our vig when we really could have used him day 3. I don't see a point in trying to pursue his lynch unless he's going to do something scummy.

I'll throw my vote on Tobon since I don't see a better option and I feel that in the next 5 hours we need a lynch. I think that using the excuse of it being your first game is no reason to not come off as more town. A big factor is, if he is town, we at least alleviate a topic of uncertainty in the coming days and make for a better town atmosphere. He's acted like scum and he's going to be a topic of discussion for the coming days if he isn't lynched today, which will only detract from further scum hunting.

##Vote Tobon
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#406
On March 20 2012 02:22 Tobon wrote:
Morning, all. I am reading TIPD scummiest of the three (TIPD/Snarfs/Dirkzor) semi-lurkers so far, because he's attempted to look the most involved while also contributing the least. And if you guys do end up lynching me today, and I flip town, be sure to notice how both TIPD and Snarfs are band wagoning to get it done.

I love the irony in that last sentence. Weren't you the guy who, in one of his very first posts, said he would be happy to band wagon anybody in order to ensure a lynch?

Besides, I said in my post why I was voting for you. In order to reach a majority lynch, people need to "band [wagon] to get it done". I don't think there is anything wrong in lynching someone who a large portion of the town feels could be scum and whose only saving factor right now is the fact that they're a new player. If we don't lynch you today, then you'll just take up more of the conversation in the coming days when we could be trying to find more scum.

It's the same problem with people like Bluelightz, except for you, there is no past history to gather. If Bluelightz had no past posting history (and he wasn't working with layabout), I would want to lynch him just to clear up the town atmosphere.

While I agree that this is not the only reason to lynch somebody, I think you're yet to contribute much besides pointing your finger at whoever might be an easy target. While I can't say that I've exactly contributed a ton, I wasn't even around. You've been around and not contributing.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 18:04 GMT
#416
On March 20 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:
I changed my mind about xsksc and I'm willing to give jackal time to step up. However Snarfs dude needs to die. I played last game as scum with him as town and he went around questioning people and trying to find scum, which is not what he is doing right now. His post on nemesis is pretty retarded and now his switch to tobon does not feel genuine at all and it seems he is just trying to get his vote somewhere and try to rise the minimum amount of suspicion.
Remember people, the ones that we are really looking after are people that are actively avoiding to say anything that could be considered scummy, trying to blend in and hide, while not actually doing anything thing useful and that's what can be observed about Snarfs posting.
##Unvote
##Vote: Snarfs

Sigh, I'm sorry. I'm tired and am rushing things because deadline is in 4 hours. Another reason I'm suspicious of both johnny and Tobon, one which I alluded to earlier when I said that johnny's claim was off, is because they both claimed "Vanilla Town". I'm a "Vanilla Towny". See that? With a 'y' at the end? Why would they have a different title if they're actually townies? It looks like they were trying to match it up with the posts at the beginning of the thread, when that's not what the title that was sent out says.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 18:14 GMT
#423
Can you guys please give me something concrete to defend myself against?

I've explained already that I was not on my computer all day yesterday and the day before that I was at a St. Patty's party. When Wiggles started I was on my computer, ready to go and was able to respond to things as they happened in the thread. This time, I have not had a chance to respond to things until just this morning.

I thought my reasoning for Nemesis was solid. There wasn't much to go on for most people and Nemesis was spending most of his time either calling out lurkers or simply asking questions of people then disappearing. Since my vote, he has provided solid scum hunting and I no longer feel like he is a good lynch candidate for today.

First off ,I don't think Nemesis is going down today, and I liked how collected he was in responding to my vote so that's off. He didn't get overly emotional or respond irrationally, which is what I would have expected from scum in his position.

I was wrong to say that first part. I can definitely see how scummy it looks and you guys are very right to bring that up. I don't have a lot I can say about that. It was just before my morning coffee and if I was typing that over again, I would say it.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 18:17 GMT
#425
On March 20 2012 03:09 slOosh wrote:
Are mafia given example PMs of town roles? Also are we allowed to talk about this or is this infraction of
rule 6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host. ?

I've seen in other games people get noted for claiming a role that doesn't match up with what the actual role is. People called Palmar out in my last game for claiming Vanilla Town when the role was just Town. That's why I figured the titles of the roles were okay.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 18:19 GMT
#426
Honestly, I think if I'm going to be mod killed it's best if I don't post any more. It wouldn't be fair. If I misinterpreted the rule then that's my own fault and I should have asked for clarification before posting that.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 19:56 GMT
#470
Just got back from lunch and will help weigh in within the next hour. I think I definitely need to reread through some filters because clearly my first two votes attracted some negative attention which I didn't feel was warranted.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 20:07 GMT
#476
On March 20 2012 04:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Go read Snarfs' filter from Wiggles Mini...Sandroba posted link. Then come read his filter in this game. Just don't worry about the RolePM bullshit.

Honestly, if you give me more time you'll see the same person. I've already explained twice that between yesterday and the day before I was on the computer all of about an hour and a half.

I think you're putting too much weight on the fact that I haven't been here.

Also appreciate that in the last game I was never under any pressure so you have nothing to compare that to now. This is me trying to make up for the fact that I was gone for almost 2 full days and during that time you said you weren't going to listen to anybody who wasn't voting. So what do I do when I see a more veteran player saying that they're not going to listen to anybody who isn't voting? I put my vote on the person I think is most likely to be scum and then try to reason it out.

If you have any specific questions for me please ask right away. Ask me my motives for anything I've done or haven't done so far this game and I will answer completely truthfully because, as I've said before, I have absolutely nothing to hide.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 20:21 GMT
#486
I think VE, Jackal and sloOsh all jumped on me hard and it's pretty likely that we have at least one scum in that group so my vote will fall between those 3 today.

##Unvote Tobon
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 21:11 GMT
#498
I was just thinking the same thing.

I'm just trying to look at who is / isn't on the wagon and where the scum team actually is on this one.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 21:16 GMT
#502
##Vote Jackal58
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#503
Laya/Toad just layed out the case right above the vote count.
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