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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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##Vote Kita for the elected role I've yet to read the description of. | ||
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Could someone explain why Velinath is overwhelmingly being voted? I feel like I'm missing something. VE's role came from the haunted 2 role suggestion post game. There might be others in there to give us an idea what we might be dealing with. Look for anything that is posted that doesn't naturally fit in a post. That is the easiest way to identify if there is sleeper cell communication going on in the thread. On March 17 2012 08:01 GreYMisT wrote: Also among you are some villains from your past I found through the rift. At one point, kenpachi randomly posts a picture of Mussolini (aka a WaW2 villian). Why did you decide to use this image? On March 18 2012 11:11 Kenpachi wrote: What fake claim did you recieve? Is it public knowledge that mafia are recieving fake claims? On March 17 2012 15:10 Kenpachi wrote: Well shit, thanks Mods. I have to do real analysis to carry these noobs. I wonder, is it possible to post this as town with a straight face? Also, why out of any player in the game are you giving the item to the player that is confirmed non-town? Do you not have the town's best interest in mind? On March 17 2012 10:17 MidnightGladius wrote: While I'm waiting for dinner: -Filters- Never trust the guy who provides the filters. On March 17 2012 10:53 Bluelightz wrote: Its tempting to believe this because Kenpachi does this every game :O, any thoughts? Bluelightz, are your biggest concerns honestly kenpachi townie claims, sinani's lurking and cwave's lack of posts? You nearly have two pages of posts on your own and they are all completely empty. On March 17 2012 11:07 gonzaw wrote: Right, first things first: I believe Drazerk is town. -_- On March 17 2012 14:35 sinani206 wrote: Also, I want to give Wheatley to Drazerk, as he is pretty much confirmed town. -_- On March 19 2012 00:09 Hassybaby wrote: We're talking about lurkers, and totally ignoring kita? Are you accusing me of being a lurker? I'm carefully observing the thread and posting when its beneficial to me? First day of spring break + travel + holiday weekend = no time On March 19 2012 00:10 Hassybaby wrote: Oh yeah, forgot this bit ##Vote: kitaman27 I'll assume that's an election vote. On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote: Because I am town. Same as I was in Kaller. Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town -_- For the lynch, Drazerk seems perfectly reasonable. He says himself that he is targetting down the best players in the thread because they are the biggest threats. Biggest threats to who? The barlog? Scum or third party, he's not going to help town at any point and his story is changing every few hours. The anti-town factions obviously won't be shooting him at night as he will always be discussed for the lynch and serve as a distraction. ##Vote Drazerk | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 19 2012 04:35 Kenpachi wrote: HOLY FUCK YOU JUST PAINTED YOURSELF SCUM IN 1 POST. LOL lol hai. What was your fake claim? | ||
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On March 19 2012 05:24 gonzaw wrote: Ehm, so what do you think about Foolishness rhymes? Do you think they are a legit post restriction or bullshit? They are rather  Curious.  Another game comes to  Mind. To be Frank, I'm Always suspicious of people WhO hope to mislead us with Major distractions such as these. Food5 | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 19 2012 06:07 phagga wrote: Why was it beneficial for you to wait so long with posting? A lot of your quotes were made quite some time ago. Hmm? Not saying it was beneficial. I wasn't home all day with 6 hours of travel, St. Patricks Day and a dead harddrive. Just saying I'm not lurking On March 19 2012 06:07 gonzaw wrote: You are a little late there Maybe if you use a defeatist attitude like that. On March 19 2012 06:07 gonzaw wrote: Also, why do you want to elect me? What do you think about me? Similar mindframe with myself? Or it was completely random. On March 19 2012 05:55 Drazerk wrote: Oh cool I have majority never mind I am a village idiot with a day vig shot Cheers for playing Right, the Village Idiot who claims before the deadline?  | ||
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kitaman27
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![[image loading]](http://www.digitalmediatree.com/library/image/12/beautiful_mind_2.JPG) Looking at his zelblade analysis, I scratch my head and wonder if a scum player could really come up with a case that crazy. I'm confused by his insitance that cyber is scum based on his lack of posts, but his anti-terrorist stance is more than enough to win me back over. Playing with him as scum in Resistance, he was pretty aggressive and he openly pushed his objectives. This was the only post that set off any alarms, I'd be interested in hearing his reasoning for discreditting Gonzaw. On March 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: Anybody who thinks seriously about electing Gonzaw should take some time to seriously consider what they're doing with their lives. Vel's posts have been pretty reasonable. Nothing groundbreaking, but I like his comment about wanting to control the outed third party for his kp, even if its a bad idea. He is pretty open with sharing his opinion and seems to get annoyed by things from a town midframe. I can't say I favor one player over the other, which isn't very helpful being the deciding vote, but I'll go with Velinath. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 19 2012 08:44 Kenpachi wrote: huh. #1 reading it seems. my reads? Kitaman is scum Wiggles is Town. Could you explain why you decided to give your item to the player that claimed non-town? Also, could you explain what your "fake claim" entails? On March 19 2012 08:14 Velinath wrote: It's kind of like an inventor, but limited. Basically, I can give items to players. These items are essentially equivalent to roles, but they're one-shot. I also can't just give items out to everyone; I'm limited in how many I can distribute. Limited per day? Or overall? Or both? What exactly do we have to work with? | ||
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On March 19 2012 11:59 Grackaroni wrote: I'm a 4th party role. I am unlynchable, bullet proof and I win with all possible roles/factions. Once per day/night cycle I must plant a lemon tree. My win condition is that I must collect the entire game's supply of lemons. My only weakness is that I am susceptible to poisoned lemons.... ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/2iixxea.jpg) Working on a post. Not sure if I'll post it when I'm done or at the deadline. | ||
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kitaman27
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/ragequit My new hard drive arrived today so I'm currently reinstalling windows. I've been having to fight over the family computer for the last two days, which is always a struggle. I got kicked off before I could write anything worth saying earlier. Hopefully as soon as my laptop gets all set up in a couple hours I'll be back to normal. | ||
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Blazinghand getting shot over Velinath somewhat confuses me. Why is the runner up getting shot, rather than the player who has access to distributing pro-town powers among the members of town? The only reason I can think of Kenpachi having a GMarshal fake claim would be if he is the third party planar dragon. If that is the case, I don't think he should be today's lynch as we already used yesterday to eliminate a third party player. MidnightGladius, why are you claiming vanilla town day one? Was it simply an attempt to be elected? I'll mention my annoyance at the no flip again because I like to complain. On March 19 2012 22:30 Sbrubbles wrote: @Veli, can you tell us what items are for sale? There's reason to suspect there are 5 (well, now 4) portal guns around, which (if we believe Drazerk) show what items a person has. If someone is found to have one item from this list, it would be a good lead for town. Could you explain what you mean here Sbrubbles? Also, who are you suspicious of right now, besides kenpachi? A lot of your focus this game is on mechanics, rather than scum hunting. I'm considering the following people for lynch today: Mr. Wiggles On March 17 2012 10:23 Drazerk wrote: 3) I used an item on Wiggles and know he is not the same as me which makes me hesitant for anyone to vote for him without an excellent argument Draz flat out claims that Wiggles has a different alignment as him and Wiggles completely ignores this. I know from my perspective, that if someone tells the thread that I'm scum or third party that I'm going to be refuting the claim 100% and going hard after him. When posting his reasoning for voting, he hardly even references draz's bizzare claim. In fact, at one point, he even starts to back off the lynch: On March 18 2012 04:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, I forgot I wanted to write in that post, but it might not be the best idea to lynch Drazerk anymore after his claim. Are you really willing to give a pass to a player who essentially claims they used an item to prove that you are scum? You argue that a kp might be better, but that is one less kp the mafia have to worry about and if no one shoots him or draz survives the hit, then we get to waste another day dealing with him. You buy his rage core claim after he claims to use an investigative item on you making you look bad? In addition, you never suggest an alternative for the lynch. When sharing his few reads that he does provide, he always gives reasons that make a player look good and bad, rather than committing strongly one way or another. The strongest read he does provide is a null read. On March 18 2012 04:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote: gonzaw, so far I think that you're asking a lot of questions and posting actively, which is good. However, you're somewhat inundating the thread with them, and that means that a lot of them end up unanswered or forgotten. On March 20 2012 06:29 Mr. Wiggles wrote: On Zephird: I don't like his early posting, as it mostly consists of spam and commentary. After that, though, it actually picks up a fair bit. Rather than openly share his opinion, he has to be questioned. Today he hasn't provided any suggestions for the day two lynch. Bluelightz The cases Bluelightz have provided us are essentially summaries, rather than analysis. He mentions that sinani is lurking, and quotes all three of cwave's posts, but doesn't explain why these things make them scum. In the town games I've read through, he is just as spammy, but at least he is willing to openly share his opinion. Today he wants to lynch sinani who is apparently already marked for death and kenpachi for not explaining his role (which he states is not allowed). How can kenpachi be his number one lynch candidate if he hasn't even read through his filter? As far as his opinions, they completely lack resolve. He likes wiggles for mayor, but switches off as soon draz paints him in bad light. He argues that draz is a threat to the town, but doesn't even vote for him in the end. blubbdavid I would be less willing to lynch him than the above two, but I thought he was worth mentioning anyway. On March 19 2012 03:00 blubbdavid wrote: Rule of thumb: blubbdavid posts little or only crap = blubbdavid is town Why are you trying to use anti-town behavior to enforce the idea that you are town? Are you proud of the fact that you haven't done anything but spam the thread? I know you are somewhat competent based on your play in Newbie V, so why have all your posts been a bunch of one liners without sharing your opinions? | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: hey kita! how are things? and a huge post too. lovely. Not bad. I was able to read through everyone's filter, but yours. You have a talent for posting so much that I don't care enough to read what you say, On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: However, I don't agree with your wiggles case. At least not with your reasoning. He basically calls draz "neutral scum survivor" in his post (for whatever reason). Thus, he doesn't feel like being accused of scumness (not third party doesn't rule out town) and your whole reasoning (at least here) crumbles. He could contribute more though. Do you think Wiggles is town? On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: all of you guys screaming how scum has 3 KP (C_C, Cwave and Rayzor). you might be right. But I find that quite high. Why? On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote: Still, I think Dirk is not the best lynch target. Who is the best lynch target? On March 21 2012 03:40 Velinath wrote: Nobody's bought anything from the black market yet. Given the opportunity to buy a watcher/medic/whatever role, you decided not to? Why is that? You've used the black market to cover up the fact that you aren't scum hunting. Why aren't you being transparent with you scum reads like you promised when elected? | ||
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On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I want to ask, Kita, have you been reading the thread? Drazerk said that he used an item on me that said I'm not third party, which actually turned out to be one of his role abilities. So, I wouldn't fight against it, because it says I'm not third party, not that I'm scum. But that's not how the series of events unfolded. Draz didn't claim third party until later in the game. At that point, we only knew that he shot VE and that his kill flavor could possibly point to the barlog. Either way, if you're town and Draz is posting that he has used an item to determine that he has a different alignment than you, why does it take 24 hours for you to be voting for him? On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, that post was made after day 1, so a lot of my reads will still be mixed. I list the good and the bad things with people, because they are there. Then you have to make a judgement call of whether the bad things make them scummy, or the good things make them town. I haven't seen you call anyone scum yet, which is strange 100 hours into the game. | ||
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On March 21 2012 06:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Anyways, I'm going to read over the thread some more, and hopefully decide who I want to lynch. Nothing?  On March 19 2012 23:54 Bluelightz wrote: On my meta, Lists!?!!!!?!?! Fine, since you sorta asked for it im gonna make a list Does it take three days? | ||
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That doesn't sound like a town role. | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:13 Grackaroni wrote: I'm pretty sure that multiple people have a role like this involving lemons. Hassybaby for example immediately knew I wanted the lemons for a vig shot. So how does it work? 2 lemons = day vig shot? Hassy, what would you be able to do if I gave you my lemon instead? | ||
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On March 21 2012 15:17 Grackaroni wrote: Now back to you, who were you going to shoot? Probably Wiggles. :/ | ||
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On March 21 2012 18:10 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Of all the things he's done this is the most telling one: I hope you notice that he's pointing out exactly the same thing as I did, that foolishness was feigning a posting restriction. The difference being in that I actually drew a conclusion from it, while kitaman just flutters around the issue, really making it nothing more than just a contentless post. If foolishness was scum, this makes sense as Kita would not want to draw too much attention, but someone would definitely call him out on it at some point, not having noticed the similarities. Even if I was wrong and foolishness was town, Kita would most certainly not want to call him out too hard because he'd be fearing the consequences of such an action. lol this is the most telling post? This shows how weak your case is. The conclusion you come to after Foolishness gets shot is that he is scum and I was soft-defending him? Is this honestly what you believe or are you just trying to come up with an explanation that fits your story? You spent almost all of your effort yesterday discussing post restrictions of all things. Foolishness trolling makes you come to the conclusion that he is scum? You're saying you've never seen him do it as town? Either way, Foolishness's alignment isn't even tied to mine. I'm not sure why you are trying to draw the connection. I think you're just jealous of how many pro-gamer names I was able to fit in. On March 21 2012 18:10 Dirk Hardpec wrote: I removed a picture from that post to keep it readable. Notice once again the soft and indecisive tone from kitaman. He really does not want to be a major factor in the game. He basically writes this post to reach no conclusion while quietly pushing the Velinath candidate. I'm not sure on Velinath's alignment yet, but I am completely 100% certain that Blazinghand was town, which is why I voted him into office. Oh rly? Switching from my preferred vote (Gonzaw who it seems pretty likely was town) to being the deciding vote between Vel/Blazing means I don't want to be a factor in the game? If you're not sure on Vel's alignment then how is this even a point against me? How is my indecisiveness even any different than yours? If blazinghand was such a good candidate, why weren't you campaigning harder to switch my vote? Did you not want to be a major factor in the game? :p On March 21 2012 18:10 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Continuing into day 2, kita is doing his best "I don't matter" impression. But hey, town expects him to actually push lynches today, because that's the pro-town thing to do. So how can kita keep having no influence over the thread while maintaining the illusion he's actually posting soemthing of value? Simple, just post a weak analysis on three random players. If I'm right and kita flips scum it doesn't even clear any of them because Kita's follow-up to this push has been so weak, so flailing, that there has never been any risk of any of them being lynched. And kita is hardly pushing his reads. In conclusion, I think kitaman is basically doing everything he can to remain useless in the game while appearing to be doing some work of any kind of value. I'm hurt Palmar. I always matter. You call my cases weak, but never comment what about them are actually weak. You say I'm useless, but attack me for calling Wiggles useless. What's with the double standard? What is your opinion on the alignment of the players that I listed? How can you say there is a lack of follow-up, when I'm clearly trying to coordinate a day vig, question wiggles when he doesn't provide a suspect as promised, and ask blue for a list he failed to deliver? On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote: Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff. Scum hate leading lynches. Kita was the first person to post an analysis and lead a lynch on day two. Therefore, Kita must be scum. QED. On March 21 2012 15:39 Grackaroni wrote: @Kitaman :Am I correct in saying that the reason you think Wiggles is scum is because he is a veteran and that he has been under-performing by not giving strong reads? (as opposed to newer players in here who are also not giving reads) Yes. | ||
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