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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2012 19:53 GMT
#27
/in

hello world
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 03 2012 04:16 GMT
#32
So lynching for information would be basically pointless?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 08 2012 12:49 GMT
#66
I get what sylogism is saying about exclusivity, you cant have players who've never competed before on the forms play, but this set up has becoming more and more standard, you've dropped the traitor and dropped the no alignment flips, so there should be no inherent reason that a few newbie players cant join in.

It made perfect sense that storm was exclusive, it was a hard game, very little info was available and players had to rely heavily on experience and analysis.

Meanwhile this game is a perfect opportunity for 4 or so semi newbiesh players(players with 3 games under their belt or so) to get acquainted with the style of some of the better players on the forum.

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 08 2012 12:53 GMT
#67
Also how do you expect to play jub jub mafia without any jub jubs?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 17:21:40
March 08 2012 17:21 GMT
#74
On March 09 2012 01:58 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
/in



damnit how am i supposed to compete with that? Forget I ever made a half backed stand T_T

/out(not that I was ever in)
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 08 2012 17:23 GMT
#75
On March 08 2012 21:49 gumshoe wrote:
I get what sylogism is saying about exclusivity, you cant have players who've never competed before on the forms play, but this set up has becoming more and more standard, you've dropped the traitor and dropped the no alignment flips, so there should be no inherent reason that a few newbie players cant join in.

It made perfect sense that storm was exclusive, it was a hard game, very little info was available and players had to rely heavily on experience and analysis.

Meanwhile this game is a perfect opportunity for 4 or so semi newbiesh players(players with 3 games under their belt or so) to get acquainted with the style of some of the better players on the forum.



So was this just one of those times were I'm absolutely wrong for some obvious reason?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 08 2012 21:38 GMT
#88
/back in

What the hell, 20 spots plenty of room
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 08 2012 22:06 GMT
#92
On March 09 2012 07:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 09 2012 06:38 layabout wrote:
something is telling me to /in ....


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On March 09 2012 04:46 Blazinghand wrote:
[image loading]



I get the sense that your really good at phoenix right esque games.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 00:47 GMT
#119
How long till launch?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 04:16 GMT
#124
K so game on!

Anyways I'm Gumshoe I've played two games before both as town.

Couple things, lynching preference day 1.

Lurkers are my preference ) : I'm fresh off a game where once a day posters pretty much sealed our fate so unless a solid case is present(which isn't unlikely) thats where my votes going.

2: Are we having a vote deadline? A ten hour one could be useful for organization.

Also why scwhorz?




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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 04:25 GMT
#127
On March 11 2012 13:21 Mattchew wrote:
Gumshoe you gonna care this game?



This is my first real game, I am going to give it my all and even if things get rough I'll fight to the bitter end. You can count on me this time(if you please). I hope I can do the same for you
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 04:27 GMT
#128
On March 11 2012 13:19 Jitsu wrote:
That meme is some good stuff. I love you Jackal.

So, let's get this ball rolling, then.

I'm not sure I want to comment on Lurkers or anything yet. Looking at the player list, I think everyone will have a decently good job of staying active enough to contribute to a pro-town atmosphere. No one really stands out to me as a lurking player, so enough of that.

Also, this is going to be pretty much a direct rip from my first post in Storm. It's something that I think should set the mood for town discussion.

I hate liars, unless there is a clear and logical reason to do so (blue prolonging his anonymity, ect.), anyone lying should (and will) be 100% held accountable for the actions they decided to run with. Does anyone in anyway disagree with this, and if so, why?

I will hold myself to the same standard, and anyone who is found blatantly lying, crossing stories, anything of that sort is going to be pushed by me, and i'd like to assume that the majority of the town players can agree with me on that.


Nope, I dont, at the same time though I dont think we have to be completely transparent but elaborate thread traps are better served for pms if at all.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 04:29 GMT
#130
On March 11 2012 13:19 Jitsu wrote:
That meme is some good stuff. I love you Jackal.

So, let's get this ball rolling, then.

I'm not sure I want to comment on Lurkers or anything yet. Looking at the player list, I think everyone will have a decently good job of staying active enough to contribute to a pro-town atmosphere. No one really stands out to me as a lurking player, so enough of that.

Also, this is going to be pretty much a direct rip from my first post in Storm. It's something that I think should set the mood for town discussion.

I hate liars, unless there is a clear and logical reason to do so (blue prolonging his anonymity, ect.), anyone lying should (and will) be 100% held accountable for the actions they decided to run with. Does anyone in anyway disagree with this, and if so, why?

I will hold myself to the same standard, and anyone who is found blatantly lying, crossing stories, anything of that sort is going to be pushed by me, and i'd like to assume that the majority of the town players can agree with me on that.


Oh which actually begs the question, what about lying in pms? Its going to be alot of he said she said, should would hold private conversations to the same standard?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 05:09 GMT
#141
On March 11 2012 14:05 Mattchew wrote:
i will not be using the pm function until atleast day 2 or 3 when I have a better feel for everyone.

I will be announcing to the thread who I decide to PM with when I do, and if someone adds me I will announce that as well. I think we should all partake in this practice


I dont think we should have to announce who were pming, but I do think we should all say when we have at least two people who have decided to pm us. Why? Because I dont think everyone should be pming the one guy who we all think is a great townie, everyone should have 4 contacts ideally, that way the spread of information is even and we have a better chance to gain more information as opposed to having everyone pming one guy. Of course that is optional and I wont suggest that you announce who has decided to pm you, just tell us when you have two contacts so we can keep the spread of pm lines even.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#144
On March 11 2012 14:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On March 11 2012 14:09 gumshoe wrote:
On March 11 2012 14:05 Mattchew wrote:
i will not be using the pm function until atleast day 2 or 3 when I have a better feel for everyone.

I will be announcing to the thread who I decide to PM with when I do, and if someone adds me I will announce that as well. I think we should all partake in this practice


I dont think we should have to announce who were pming, but I do think we should all say when we have at least two people who have decided to pm us. Why? Because I dont think everyone should be pming the one guy who we all think is a great townie, everyone should have 4 contacts ideally, that way the spread of information is even and we have a better chance to gain more information as opposed to having everyone pming one guy. Of course that is optional and I wont suggest that you announce who has decided to pm you, just tell us when you have two contacts so we can keep the spread of pm lines even.

I don't think that's necessary. It will be much more telling to see how PM lines form when left unattended by the thread. People should use their own judgment and not the wisdom of the "town". As far as being open with who you select, I can't see how that would be anything but pro-town.


I'm saying it should be an option to privately open a pm, I might not want to announce the people I trust, i feel we shouldn't be considered automatically scummy because we dont announce who we pm, there are reasons to privately open a pm like say if your convinced the person on the other end is a blue and you want to talk to them about thier findings but you dont want to broadcast them to scum.

Further more I wasnt asking we rely on the wisdom of town, I simply wanted people to announce when they've been contacted by two people and then we could know if it would be right to have that person posses a higher number of contacts than most.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 05:28 GMT
#145
On March 11 2012 14:14 Mattchew wrote:
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On March 11 2012 14:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 11 2012 14:05 Mattchew wrote:
i will not be using the pm function until atleast day 2 or 3 when I have a better feel for everyone.

I will be announcing to the thread who I decide to PM with when I do, and if someone adds me I will announce that as well. I think we should all partake in this practice

So if someone PMs you will you ignore it? Seems like an easy way to avoid pressure. PMs are better for town than they are for scum and if you're not scum you have nothing to be afraid of. In fact, talking to scum should be your first priority as town, why would you just want to PM other townies for??

No i just meant i wont be picking until day 2 or 3.

I will respond and talk to anyone that picks me whenever.

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On March 11 2012 14:09 gumshoe wrote:
On March 11 2012 14:05 Mattchew wrote:
i will not be using the pm function until atleast day 2 or 3 when I have a better feel for everyone.

I will be announcing to the thread who I decide to PM with when I do, and if someone adds me I will announce that as well. I think we should all partake in this practice


I dont think we should have to announce who were pming, but I do think we should all say when we have at least two people who have decided to pm us. Why? Because I dont think everyone should be pming the one guy who we all think is a great townie, everyone should have 4 contacts ideally, that way the spread of information is even and we have a better chance to gain more information as opposed to having everyone pming one guy. Of course that is optional and I wont suggest that you announce who has decided to pm you, just tell us when you have two contacts so we can keep the spread of pm lines even.


no. more transparency and more town information the better. Say who you are sharing PM's with


How bout I announce one of my pms

Fine, I'll comply.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 05:31 GMT
#146
Do we have to announce whose contacted us if that person hasn't gone ahead and told town who he's contacted?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 06:11 GMT
#155
On March 11 2012 15:03 jaybrundage wrote:
i think annoucing pms is fine. I think that more information only helps the town.

Also i think that we should be on top of lurkers to post content. We cant let people slide by with low post counts.

Imma encourage people to post Blazinghand style POST YOU I LYNCH YOU

And comon no one wants to kill Rg with meh XD


Cause he hasnt talked yet ) :

Oh and caller does my meta lynch get postponed till day 2 if a better option comes up?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 06:15 GMT
#156
Going to bed, good night everyone and good luck.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 11 2012 16:08 GMT
#177
K so seeming as town is a bit on the fence regarding pms I think it should just come down to ones own choice, if you feel you want to give town the info do so, if you don't want to broadcast your town reads or give scum a heads up don't.

Few things though, if you do tell town who your pming do not lie about that person, I am with jitsu for the lying rule because the more honest as opposed to faulty info out there the easier it is to conduct analysis(although scum will of course lie and against a back drop of honest townies it becomes far more obvious that they are scum).

Secondly whereas lying is bad withholding information/keeping town/mafia on a need to know basis is a staple of mafia, how is withholding your contacts any different from withholding your suspicions until your case is complete? So if you pm someone without telling town and that guy broadcasts that you did so, I do not think that should take target priority(unless theres REALLY nothing better around) come lynch time.

Now another topic, early on I mentioned lynching lurkers, that is not going to be an issue seeing as everyone seems pretty active.

Yet how about the other topic I brought up? What of a preliminary vote deadline? It'll help avoid mass vote switches and help keep town organized, any nays? Any suggestions when a deadline would be ideal?
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