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rgTheSchworz
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rgTheSchworz
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I must sleep, but Tactics come first. Hope it wont turn out as bad as the last ones. Gl all. | ||
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On March 01 2012 13:02 sandroba wrote: I'm kinda bore with Lynch all Liars/Lurkers talk. This game we shall try something new: Lynch whoever I tell you to lynch and win. It works wonders. Your chances of surviving another night are now halved,sir. Best way to start this is with a feeler vote, so ##Vote: Probulous On March 01 2012 12:41 Probulous wrote: Thanks for the reminder Adam. For reference Player List: 1. Jackal58 - USA 2. Paperscraps - USA 3. Bluelightz - Indonesia 4. Probulous - Great Southern Land 5. Snarfs - Kanucksland 6. rgTheSchworz - Romania 7. Misder - Fairy Land AKA who the fucks knows 8. Pandain - USA 9. Palmar - Iceland 10. Sandroba - USA 11. TheToast - USA 12. Adam4167 - Land Down under 13. A Killer Cuppa Tea - Neighbours with Misder 14. deconduo - Ireland This is what I have for countries based on profiles. Misder and Tea where are you boys based? Arguing with Misder about lynching liars and lurkers is unproductive. We all knew beforehand that most players were gonna be US-based, so why bother with a list? Besides,duh, its in the profile, and we only have 14 players, not veery hard to remember. This ,,friendly chat,, provides the opportunity for scum to blend in perfectly.They arent forced in any way to react scummy, and can just sheep the towniest around.Your spam, Probulous, doesnt inspire me, because indeed it is spam.If we are gonna discuss strategy, then let it be based on names, which we can hold accountable on further days. If not, just vote between posting. A feeler vote D1 is absolutely justified,as long as you are willing to change who you are voting for once you have a strong suspicion.It provides pressure on normally presureless D1 s for scum.Waiting for scum to fuck up is lame, lets make em fuck up. Ive randomed a purely awesome role this game. | ||
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Palmar, you are not Flash or some other god. If you flip town, we will surely take a look at your filter,but I will not take your opinion for granted. I havent seen a good town game from either you or sandro. What is a fact is that you gather support quite quickly-people pointed you as town in WW2, which I did not believe it was the case.With 2 scum factions on top of that, it was quite obvious that one would go after the other at daytime. Derp townies always exist, though here they re not a majority. Why so serious?Calm down.Vets are vets, but if scum takes over town leadership.......Lets say that it might be troublesome. | ||
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Plus,saying ,, listen to me and only to me'' is somewhat scummy. Scum's disadvantage is numbers, so if even half the town turns out to be useful, then we re going the right way, regardless of who s scum.They will not have a majority in even that group. | ||
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You see, Scum are more likely to do that since if Town becomes scum-led, the game really becomes simple from their POV.They just have to mislead a few days and leave no trails and Voila. | ||
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On March 02 2012 01:10 sandroba wrote: I'm doing my just woke up impression. So far I want to lynch pandain, what about you? I hate this because scum can copy it so easily and get away. Thats why I want you dead ASAP. And i may have the power to do so... Tonight. Explain, why Pandain? | ||
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I have access to my role PM, you dont. Hack me if you can. | ||
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Either way, he is town at first, cause Mafia are his enemies. He doesnt want to end up alone Vs scum, cuz scum know who s scum and can find him pretty easily. So, Mr SK, we lynch u after all scum have gone,ok? | ||
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Still not enough for him to be lynched D1, I d say. I d prefer not to talk about Arkham, I had a simple plan, but it failed, due to some truth-loving townies. Still baffled that only 3rd parties managed to figure out my role and that I did not look scummy. ##Unvote [QUOTE]On March 02 2012 09:18 Pandain wrote: [QUOTE]On March 02 2012 08:49 Probulous wrote: [QUOTE]On March 02 2012 08:26 Pandain wrote: AKCT hasn't done anything scummy. At least not anything that we can pinpoint definitively too. Right now your just clouded by the fact they both accused you, and you probably think anyone who supports you is town to. That's a dangerous, oftentimes wrong assumption to make. The_Toast, to the best of day1 analysis can go, is our best bet for right now.[/QUOTE] I agree on RG. If you have courage take a look at Arkham City (Adam rolls his eyes). He claimed everything under the sun and looked scummy as hell but ended up being a regular vet. The fact that he put together an atrocious case on me and called it so makes him pretty much town in my eyes. Weird play but produced some interesting results. Tea however jumped at the opportunity to call me scum when everyone else who pushed me, never did. RG clearly didn't believe I was scum or he would have pushed much harder but tea sheeps. Then he tries to explain his sheep with the worst possible logic available. He could be townie who doesn't know what is going on, but if that is the case why jump at me? He wants to look like he is contributing when he isn't. I am fully aware that townies will target other townies. That happens all the time, that is why people's motivations for posting are important. From what I have seen from Tea he wants to look like he is contributing without contributing. Hence my suspicion. The fact that it was me is irrelevant. [/QUOTE] AKCT isn't actingi scummy. What was his first post? A vote of you with no explanation. Mafia would never ever EVER do that, that's so suspicious. Mafia are usually careful, and reticent in demeanor(part of why I think The_Toast is mafia). Theres one thing I have suspicions about but as of yet I'm waiting to see what he does about it, and telling him will ruin it. As of now I feel any evidence regarding AKCT is speculative, while more conclusive evidence is elsewhere. Toast's latest response is more interesting actually.... [QUOTE]On March 02 2012 08:55 TheToast wrote: [QUOTE]On March 02 2012 07:51 Pandain wrote: I believe Probulous is town, or at least not scummy enough to lynch day 1. He's way too active/aggressive I feel for him to be mafia, although I'll have to look at his previous games for confirmation. I'm most suspicious of The_Toast. Contrary to his last game as town, [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452&user=89961](filter HERE)[/url] he is much more taciturn this game. Compare that with his current posts. All hes done is [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210¤tpage=7#134]agree with what others said[/url], and justify his own views(almost guiltily/apolegtic.) [quote] Pandain's point is valid none-the-less. We need to avoid getting sidetracked. That's all I was trying to say. [/quote] [quote] I would say why don't we wait for a few hours and see if we actually have any lurkers. And obvious scum should still be lynched first day one, if there are really no good candidates I would say then we should consider lynching a lurker. But in that case the lurker would be the best candidate, so I still say lynches need to be based on good analysis. I reiterate: silly lynch rules really only benefit scum. Logical analysis first please.[/quote] generic, "pro town" advice. [quote] wasn't trying to specifically call you out. See the first word in that bolded sentence? "WE" As in ALL of us, together, need to avoid getting side tracked. I'm also unsure how you get me accusing you of "spamming" from me saying we need to avoid getting side tracked. And to be fair, you did start a side conversation with Misder. I don't know that constitutes "spamming", but it's not going to lead to posts that can provide good analysis one way or the other. Just saying.[/quote] [quote] I wasn't trying to say you were spamming, I don't know why you are being so defensive about this. Pandain made a point about avoiding outside conversation in the thread, I agreed with that point. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything. So no, I don't have a problem with it. And you're right, I do try to think logically. As such I don't think two posts by themselves are enough to prove anyone as scum.[/quote] #vote the Toast[/QUOTE] Let me get this straight. You think I'm scum because I'm being too nice? Based on what, the one* other game of mafia I've played? Well then, why don't you take a closer look at that game, you might see that I didn't post any serious analysis or votes until like 24 hours into the game. I prefer to wait until there is a good amount of evidence before making any votes or claims. And why does agreeing with you contribute to my scumminess? Are you now suddenly in favor of conversations that side track the game? Or just in favor of lynching people who agree with you about avoiding conversations that side track the thread? I love how you quoted me defending you against Probe's accusation as well. Excellent evidence you have provided. Pandain right now you have 4 posts in this game. You called out Probulous with some vague accusations: [QUOTE]On March 01 2012 12:57 Pandain wrote: That took a long time to post. Are you hiding something?[/QUOTE] Then after both probe and sandroba call you out on this, you've very next post is--not responding to either of these--but rather to come out claiming Probulous is town--without a single shred of evidence or analysis--and claiming that I am scum based on scant evidence. Then post #4, have you addressed probe or sandroba's accusations? Nope. You tell Probe (who again, has not mysteriously become townish) that his vote on AKCoT is bad and that tunneling me is the best bet. Pandain, right now I still don't think there is enough evidence against you to make a scum call; but it looks to me like you are desperately trying to focus attention off of yourself. [/QUOTE] Contrast this tone with the others. Looks like hes trying hard to make a good point(with italics + bolding and shit). Not only that but while writing this post he researched other players(shown by his accusations of me, saying how I had 4 posts, noting my play). His accusations of me mean that he could either be a trigger-happy townie, or that he's trying to downplay me. I can't determine anything out of that, actually it sort of helps his case. This part is quite interesting though: [quote] I love how you quoted me defending you against Probe's accusation as well. Excellent evidence you have provided.[/quote] I'm interested what you meant by that, Toast. Why would you defending me lend you any town support? How would you know if I'm town? By far though the most compelling and persuasive argument against him is the fact that he accused me, rather certainly in his opinion, that i was "desperately trying to hide something", and that I'm playing scummily. And yet overall, I'm not a good enough vote? Seems a bit of a paradox there.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Pandain,softdefend your scumbuddy,Cup? Saying that he isnt scummy because of WIFOM(scum wouldnt do that) and that more conclusive evidence is to be found elsewhere is, on the other hand, scummy as hell. The Toast has shown his(its?) teeth once he was attacked. Typical town, scum usually get defensive in this spot. Probulous, that s why you have lost 3 games. The Toast isnt trying to divert attention, not with such a vocal post.Plain wrong, though I would like to see something other than OMGUS from him.He is leaning town, actually. Glad you arent spamming anymore. So far, It s between Cup and Pandain. Especially as Cup is a newbie and could very well have scumslipped. Lurkers, speak up. | ||
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I am not fond of defending someone scummy. Cup's justification isnt satisfying, but we can deduce something of it when Pandain flips. It s probable that theyre both scum. ##Vote  andainSandro's town, at least from my POV right now. He usually doesnt post walls of text, but when he rolls scum, he dissapears, and sometimes trolls like hell. I see that at least hes putting a little effort in right now. | ||
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The guy was just stating his opinion and didnt have anything scummy about him. Ergo, there is probably 1 scum who voted him,2 would be too risky, because he was the first to 3 votes.Scum like to hedge their bets. I would still vote Pandain today, his way of defending Cup with WIFOM and voting the Toast, who, by his reaction, is fairly townish. Also, sandro looks scum. Gotta sharpen my knife for the night.Or is it a gun? | ||
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I didnt roll scum, FYI. | ||
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