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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 23 2012 15:40 GMT
#1
I am losing points for wins. I first noticed it when we were 7th. It made no sense. We had just been 4th, and we had won. Well, we are like 39th now. Should we have stopped playing? Possibly! Being in Bronze with your real life buddy, though, are you expected to drop 160 points when you go ~10-5 in your last 15 games?

I literally watched us drop from 130 to 70 after 3 wins, over favored opponents, in Gold and Silver.

I have searched for a thread, typing in multiple keywords, because I specifically remember a "bronze players stuck at 0 points" situation that happened before. I just don't like that it is happening to me and my partner, who I am trying to enjoy the game with.

Do I expect to get reimbursed for the wins we were robbed of? No. Do I want that to happen?

Yes. The thing is, I know that there isn't really much that Blizzard can do in this situation. I'm sure they will update the patch. What would you all do? What is more important to you, improving via wins that you lose points for, or keeping your points by simply not playing?

I just want it to be fixed, and to have the stats updated properly.

kentuckwildcatz@gmail.com if you want to check the match history


I'd also like to state that it would sometimes give a weird error message when we were searching for a game. It would say "players found", and then say that a player has disconnected or left during the matchmaking process. We were both baffled by losing points for winning, and by it being extremely difficult to get a game. We had no issues yesterday whatsoever, and even gained points with a fairly even record. When we're winning 70%, though, all of the sudden the matchmaking system seemed to not even want us to continue playing, and when we did, we would lose points for it!
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
February 23 2012 15:43 GMT
#2
Well...rank doesn't really matter...are u losing your MMR? or just ur points? or both? b/c if its just points and ur mmr still goes up...then keep playing...MMR > Points
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
February 23 2012 15:44 GMT
#3
have you tried updating your graphics card drivers?

User was temp banned for this post.
griffith.583 (NA)
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 23 2012 15:45 GMT
#4
I understand, but MMR and points should both be raising for wins, don't you think?

posted on forum: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4079622566
created a ticket
called Blizzard
nothing


University of Kentucky Basketball #1
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 23 2012 15:50 GMT
#5
On February 24 2012 00:44 Griffith` wrote:
have you tried updating your graphics card drivers?


check printer cables

User was temp banned for this post.
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Poilon
Profile Joined December 2010
France139 Posts
February 23 2012 15:53 GMT
#6
Buy new glasses maybe ?

User was temp banned for this post.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 23 2012 15:53 GMT
#7
we've won 3 in a row, and lost points on every game, so i really don't even have any points to pay your mother, poilon. Does she take checks?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
February 23 2012 15:58 GMT
#8
Hi have you considered changing ISPs?
griffith.583 (NA)
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
February 23 2012 15:58 GMT
#9
On February 24 2012 00:45 Bill Murray wrote:
I understand, but MMR and points should both be raising for wins, don't you think?

posted on forum: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4079622566
created a ticket
called Blizzard
nothing



Yes but as long as you raise your mmr for winning I see no problem with losing points. Of course it's really bad that it happens but if you're serious about winning and not just getting points then I suggest you just keep on playing. If your MMR drops also then that's an entirely different thing and of course gives you no reason to keep playing whilst the bug still lasts.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 23 2012 16:02 GMT
#10
if others aren't affected its not likely that it is a bug on blizzards end (ask your opponent if they just got points after you won and lost points again and check their match history). Just write an email with your problem explained to blizzard, if they don't reply within 24 hours do again.
The 0 point bug was something different imo. Sounds more like someone trying out a new hack, that only works in 2v2 and up.
But your only chance is anyway to bug Blizzard with it.
I personally wouldn't stop, if you still face gold players it means your mmr does fine, so no damage is done to finding equal opponents. If you worry about your ladder points stop playing for a while after that problem occurs again.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 23 2012 16:02 GMT
#11
i had another bug on 2on2 RT:

im very high masters, basically max MMR, and when i random, i get a random (high master) partner and usually play the top ATs in Europe that are currently online.

Once, after 15 minute searchtime (yeah, its always like that :/ ), i finally found a game - i flamed my partner pretty hard because i rly thought he was high or sth - he did everywrong you could.
After the game, i watched his profile - first season he plays, 2on2 BRONZE with 6 wins. I have no idea how and why this happened Oo
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
NunedQ
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany235 Posts
February 23 2012 16:02 GMT
#12
does it say victory and -12 points on the match results screen? If so, can we get a screenshot?
clwzim
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil65 Posts
February 23 2012 16:12 GMT
#13
2v2,3v3,4v4 are just for fun. whats the matter how many points u even have?
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
February 23 2012 16:14 GMT
#14
Looked at the stats of your ally and it says "left" in alot of the games in his profile. This could have something to do with it.
But still weird and are you sure the mmr is not dropping? Looking at people using the results disagree hack they keep gaining mmr (since they dont lose the games they lose) so you might be losing mmr with this bug.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 17:04:27
February 23 2012 17:02 GMT
#15
That's really weird. I've never had this happen to me before.


On February 24 2012 01:14 Eatme wrote:
Looked at the stats of your ally and it says "left" in alot of the games in his profile. This could have something to do with it.
But still weird and are you sure the mmr is not dropping? Looking at people using the results disagree hack they keep gaining mmr (since they dont lose the games they lose) so you might be losing mmr with this bug.


I do kind of wish there was a penalty for someone leaving a game early, because I think that the mineral sharing mechanic after one member of the team leaves is a little imba anyway.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
February 23 2012 17:06 GMT
#16
Not sure what you'd like TL to do with this since it's quite obviously a blizzard/bnet problem, so closing this. gl though.

also to the people that I banned: even though this isn't a very good topic and even though it's in the wrong section, we do try to be helpful when we can.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
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