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He's going to spam this bitch into oblivion. Anti-town actions are anti-town. | ||
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On February 21 2012 07:18 Blazinghand wrote: I don't like this sort of policy lynch. I don't like policy lynches in general-- they are/should be a last resort. I think you should join my anti-spam policy-lynch of redFF instead. =D | ||
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I'm in favor of a Policy Lynch if and only if we're unable to reasonably come up with a scum lynch candidate by the middle of D1. This is very unlikely, as everyone has their opinion of what constitutes scummy behavior and there will likely be several candidates put forth in the effort to lynch actual scum. Re: VI Tyran I'm a proponent of "innocent until proven guilty". If Tyran becomes a problem, and no clear scum candidate emerges, I can feasibly get down on a Tyran lynch...in the meantime, I won't support a lynch of Tyran for the reason of "you know, it's Tyran."...I have deep-seeded problems with Palmar for this very thing. All it does is introduce negative feelings into the game and drive away players. It's dumb. Like, you can play to win without doing it at the expense of others. Re: Spammy RedFF Never fails to live up to expectations. Red you really don't have to comment on every little thing with a 1-liner response. My PL on you stands until I get a scum-read on someone. Re: RoL HI ROL!! | ||
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The fact that you're so vocal about this Policy Lynch discussion tells me that you're trying to hollowly contribute to the thread, because a VI Policy Lynch, no matter how you slice it, isn't designed to lynch scum. And no matter how much you say "it generates discussion", when that's all you're discussing, it doesn't add anything constructive to the thread either. Therefor, I'm upgrading you from a Spam Policy Lynch to a full-fledged Scum Lynch. Congratulations RedFF. Now die. | ||
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My accusation: redFF is defending the notion of a Policy Lynch in an attempt to appear contributory to the thread by posting irrelevant defenses of a VI Policy Lynch. redFF's accusation of me: VE is a hypocrite because he's calling me scum for pushing a Policy Lynch, but pushes a Policy Lynch of me at the same time Pushing a Policy Lynch = Pushing a Policy Lynch While I agree that what you started doing, pushing a VI policy lynch of Tyran and what I did, push for your lynch based on your spammy nature are one and the same.... Pushing a Policy Lynch =/= Hollowly Contributing to Thread Attempting to Appear Pro-Town ...what you're doing isn't "Pushing a policy lynch" anymore. You're now defending your decision to push a policy lynch. Why? Who the fuck cares? All it was designed to do was generate discussion anyway right? Because you're actually REALLY interested in lynching scum, correct? So why would you be defending your Policy Lynch? My guess is to appear pro-town by keeping active and posting in thread - but your contributions are meaningless because they're not designed to look for scum - they're specifically designed to defend your Policy Lynch. Furthermore, what I did wasn't even PUSH A POLICY LYNCH. I suggested one, and defended myself when you attacked my reasoning for selecting the subject of my Policy Lynch, but I haven't been posting ad nauseum about the merits of Policy Lynches or argue about it. This leads me to the conclusion that.... VE =/= Hypocrite ...but obviously I'm not going to convince you am I red? | ||
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On February 21 2012 08:00 redFF wrote: I know, its just blazinghand seemed to expressing familiarity with them. I'm not denying that good cases are made day 1. It's just that more often than not, its a townie lynch. I disagree. There are points where a player is so useless and terrible that they are objectively bad. It creates early day 1 discussion, something I think it has done this game, so that's one good thing. It also forces the person to post and post constructively, something they may not do otherwise. It doesn't only create arguments about whether a policy lynch is justified, it creates discussion about different things, as we have already seen. Yes it is, so why not get rid of dead weight. I don't disagree, a policy lynch is simply a suggestion. No shit, policy lynching doesn't FORCE EVERYONE TO STOP ANALYSING. yes but it helps. derp Everyone read this post. "Pushing his Policy Lynch" would include Tyran's name somewhere right? It would be like, explaining why Tyran deserves to be lynched, why he's VI, something. But there's nothing. All there is can be boiled down to the statement "Defending His Decision to Policy Lynch". This entire post is designed not to get votes on Tyran, but to keep votes OFF himself. It's defensive in nature, and in my opinion damning as hell. | ||
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On February 21 2012 08:51 redFF wrote: No I still like and would be down with a policy lynch but I know realistically it probably won't happen. Well certainly not with that attitude. Any more questions anyone? Let's get this show on the road. Votes on redFF. | ||
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chaoser - so by your correction and apology, should I assume that you're no longer agreeing with red's assessment that I'm being a hypocrite? kitaman27 - what are your thoughts on chaoser? Jackal, BC, syllo, WBG, you guys care to weigh in on this? I mean, it's early but I'd have expected to hear what an idiot I am at least twice between those 4 players. | ||
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On February 21 2012 09:59 wherebugsgo wrote: VE stfu you suck Everyone else sucks marginally less ATM. Mostly chaoser is doing the least sucking. Blazinghand learn to play I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl. Till then I suggest you all brush up on Ver's guide since the last page has made my eyes bleed. Ho boy, this is good play here. GOOD play. Let me count the ways. 1) Throwing out random insults. While I can appreciate the occasional well-deserved jibe, just saying someone "sucks" is...not productive. 2) Buddying up to chaoser. Apparently I suck - but I don't know why and Bugs' post does nothing to explain it. But chaoser is the only one NOT sucking - let's explore that. chaoser was the first one to jump on-board redFF's PL of Tyrran, and besides red himself has been the first one to jump off it as well. Furthermore, chaoser has spent a fair amount of time defending redFF against my accusations by agreeing with him that I am being 'hypocritical'....except, as it turns out this was based on faulty information that stems from APPARENTLY misreading the thread (thinking I said something DocH actually said). So as it turns out, chaoser is doing MORE sucking than several others in-thread already. 3) "I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl." - WBG I guess this means he wasn't programming before, but is now? So where has he been during all this time? Why not stop by and tell me what a dick I am BEFORE I called him out for not being in-thread yet? Why not come in and defend redFF if my case was so bad last page? Your guess is obviously as good as mine, but I suspect his has something to do with sharing an alignment with a certain someone the last page has been discussing. 4) "...since the last page has made my eyes bleed." - WBG So....I guess he thinks redFF is town or something? Or he just thinks my argument is shit? Or he thinks the last page is some kind of stigmata? I have no idea. He's just tossing doubt around as if he's some kind of authority. Guess what guys - THIS IS HIS FIRST POST. HE HASN'T EARNED THE RIGHT TO CALL ANYONE BAD YET IN THIS GAME BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE SHIT HIMSELF. 5) (and most importantly) ......NO U | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:14 redFF wrote: I don't see how I'm pushing scum agendas. What does that even mean? Ah, wbg is here, awesome. I'm remembering why I stopped playing here a couple months ago lol. Wait, you can dish it but you can't take it red? WTF? You were trying to PL Tyrran for being "so bad he's bad for town"...but now that you're on the chopping block you "remember why you stopped playing here a couple moths ago"? Get over yourself sir. You're all about stirring up some shit, don't get all bent out of shape when it bites you in the ass. | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Ho boy, this is good play here. GOOD play. Let me count the ways. 1) Throwing out random insults. While I can appreciate the occasional well-deserved jibe, just saying someone "sucks" is...not productive. 2) Buddying up to chaoser. Apparently I suck - but I don't know why and Bugs' post does nothing to explain it. But chaoser is the only one NOT sucking - let's explore that. chaoser was the first one to jump on-board redFF's PL of Tyrran, and besides red himself has been the first one to jump off it as well. Furthermore, chaoser has spent a fair amount of time defending redFF against my accusations by agreeing with him that I am being 'hypocritical'....except, as it turns out this was based on faulty information that stems from APPARENTLY misreading the thread (thinking I said something DocH actually said). So as it turns out, chaoser is doing MORE sucking than several others in-thread already. 3) "I have to program for a few hours so I'll bbl." - WBG I guess this means he wasn't programming before, but is now? So where has he been during all this time? Why not stop by and tell me what a dick I am BEFORE I called him out for not being in-thread yet? Why not come in and defend redFF if my case was so bad last page? Your guess is obviously as good as mine, but I suspect his has something to do with sharing an alignment with a certain someone the last page has been discussing. 4) "...since the last page has made my eyes bleed." - WBG So....I guess he thinks redFF is town or something? Or he just thinks my argument is shit? Or he thinks the last page is some kind of stigmata? I have no idea. He's just tossing doubt around as if he's some kind of authority. Guess what guys - THIS IS HIS FIRST POST. HE HASN'T EARNED THE RIGHT TO CALL ANYONE BAD YET IN THIS GAME BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE SHIT HIMSELF. 5) (and most importantly) ......NO U Re-posted because it got page-shoved. Plus I like looking at WBG contradict himself. ^^ | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:33 chaoser wrote: yes. i take it back, i misread. I dunno why WBG is buddying me though. I think I'm playing decently well though, but I think you're doing better (aka I think you're townine ATM). Buddying Attempt #1 (apologizing for misreading the thread): Successful. Buddying Attempt #2 (saying you think I'm townie ATM): FAILED.  To clarify, when I said you're doing "MORE sucking than several others in-thread", I meant only to imply that your alignment is more in question than others in-thread. I still think u a baus. | ||
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Ho boy, what are YOUR thoughts on redFF Bugs? I see you're now offended by chaoser's play in spite of him "doing the least sucking"...you completely ignore my case on redFF and stick a vote on the guy doing "the least sucking" in-thread? Something is..........not right here. Maybe I need a break from the thread for a bit. | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:48 chaoser wrote: i'm not buddying you? I'm giving a town read. I didn't realize giving out town reads was buddying. we can argue about the usefulness of giving out town reads though. also, i am watching the knicks game, why am i not scum jackal =[ I know, it was a joke bro. Remember those? I know, in this day and age of endless OMGUS and terrible play that joking has become almost taboo - but humor DOES exist in some parts of Liquidia.  | ||
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On February 21 2012 10:54 wherebugsgo wrote: redFF=bad=I have no idea what his alignment is atm. If you want a general idea of how I deal with redFF, look at Resurrection (in which I call him bad repeatedly and then actually defend him from the onslaught of Ace) or at XLVII where I completely ignore him. He was opposite alignment in those two games and honestly I could barely tell the difference. I guess part of that stems from not wanting to read/decipher his posts. Since I believe redFF is going to be comparatively unreadable to some of the other players here (read: syllo, kita, chaoser, you, RoL, Jackal, Toad, risk) I think it's more fruitful for us to be pushing players who will react in ways we expect them to react depending on their alignments. As of now, yes, that means I think chaoser is scummy because he called it strange for me to buddy him and then turned around and buddied you in the next sentence. Remember: need to know basis. Why does anyone need to know chaoser's town reads? And now we're getting somewhere. I guess I have a few questions for you regarding redFF if this is your stance on him. 1) Do you think redFF actually believed in a Policy Lynch of Tyrran based on his posts? 1a) If no, do you think he's used the information he's gained from "generating discussion" effectively? 1b) If yes, what do you think of his sudden unvote of Tyrran based on 1 post he made? 2) You said it yourself - he's "playing the victim" with his latest post. Is this something you'd expect scum to do regardless of skill-level or readability? 2a) If no, then why did you bring it up? 2b) If yes, then why would you NOT vote for redFF considering there's already support for his lynch and there's a (good) case against him? | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:27 redFF wrote: You are voting me for "using the pushing of a policy lynch as a way of Hollowly Contributing to Thread Attempting to Appear Pro-Town" Since the whole "Hollowly Contributing to Thread Attempting to Appear Pro-Town" is just your interpretation of me pushing a policy lynch, I'm fairly sure that me saying you are voting me for pushing a policy lynch is accurate. No, your contributions have been hollow and useless. Your only actual "attempt" to scumhunt was casting doubt on me for "being a hypocrite". Only the "attempting to appear pro-town" part is interpretation. The "hollowly contributing" part is accurate. So no, you saying that I'm voting you "for pushing a policy lynch" absolutely is NOT accurate. Nice try though. | ||
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On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote: Dear redFF and WBG You both suck. Sincerely, Jackal58 Dear Jackal, <3 Sincerely, VE | ||
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