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TheToast
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TheToast
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On January 29 2012 08:26 sinani206 wrote: HEY IVE PLAYED 17 GAMES. SEVEN FUCKING TEEN BRO UMAD? SPACE MARINES, AAAAAHHHTTTTAAAAAAACCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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TheToast
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On January 31 2012 02:33 GMarshal wrote: Can we be done with the caplocks now? They make my eyes hurt. -_- Hmmm this sounds awful chaos-y to me. Who else would object to paying homage to our great and mighty emperor? | ||
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TheToast
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For the Glory of the Imperium!!!! | ||
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TheToast
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On February 02 2012 14:42 Timeaisis wrote: OK, good to know. So basically, if someone speaks once and then is silent, that's a sign. But sounds like inactives are gonna get killed anyway. Good to know. So what is the best strategy, D1? Lynch or no lynch? Its seems both of those are in favor of scum, but I guess we just have to play it by ear. Ahhh don't take advice from anyone in game once it has started, you have no idea who could be chaos (mafia) and is feeding you bad information. Go read the sticky-ed strategy threads in the mafia forum if you need help. Though I suppose the very nature of that advice precludes you from taking the advice I just gave you.... well okay don't take any in-game advice from people starting.... now. For the glory of the Emperor! | ||
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TheToast
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On February 02 2012 15:27 sinani206 wrote: hi guys; just saw my role pm going to bed now, gnight You've already gotten one vote for lynching, and you have nothing to say about that? | ||
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TheToast
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Here are the things that have my attention: -sinani206: has been very quiet so far, even after getting early voted. This is unlike him, though usually he's one of the loudest people. -Bluelightz: Voted Sinensis, then unvoted Sinensis, then voted Sinensis again after he saw [UoN]Sentinel and prplhz also vote Sinesis; both without any significant analysis. To me, this sure seems like an attempt by scum to manipulate town... | ||
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TheToast
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Which makes me suspicious of prplhz's absurdly early vote against him. | ||
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On February 03 2012 01:52 Nisani201 wrote: Sinensis is not scum. prplhz started the bandwagon but Sentinel moved it forward. If he's not scum then it's probably prplhz or someone else on the bandwagon. Actually Bluelightz called out Sinensis first, then went back on it, then voted him again when Sentinel hopped on the wagon. prplhz actually voted sinani206 first. Why are you so convinced Sinesis is not scum? | ||
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TheToast
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On February 03 2012 02:14 Nisani201 wrote: Scum, especially newb scum, wouldn't say something like "let me decide who to RNG list" and put themselves in the spotlight like that. Bluelightz voted Sinesis too but unvoted before there was any sort of opposition, which doesn't seem very scummy to me. Unless he is employing "counter timing" whereby as scum he does something really stupid that makes himself overtly look like scum thereby averting all suspicions of him being scum. O-o Though I agree that at the moment there isn't enough evidence against Sinesis to make any definitive scum call, I can't say for certain he is not. For reference, Bluelightz actually voted Sinesis, unvoted Sinesis, then voted Sinesis when Sentinel hopped on board, then unvoted Sinesis again when I called him out. | ||
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TheToast
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Why you keep advocating dumb vote systems, over just figuring out who is scum and killing them, is beyond me. Why are you so against the idea of analysis? Scum have 1 kp per night in this game. Meaning if we accidentally lynch a town member Mafia will then kill another town member. So no, we cannot risk just randomly killing someone. We need to figure out who is scum and lynch them today or go no lynch. (I prefer the d1 lynch, but if we can't agree better to lose only 1 townie instead of 2). Also, we've been talking about options for the last few pages. You are so far one of the few who have not put forward some ideas about who should go down for the D1 lynch. You keep trying to railroad the thread towards your ideas but you have provided almost no analysis about who you think is scum. I would call you out for being scum, but I can't help but think that if you were the other two mafia members would be trying to get you to stop posting stuff. On February 03 2012 02:54 Timeaisis wrote: Well, vote leader screams scum sabotage to me. That sounds like if there's a scum "vote leader" then we are completly screwed. So I'm still for individual votes. By the way, has anyone not posted yet? Because I'm leaning voting for them if only to get some sort of response. See that may have been a good idea if you hadn't announced it to the whole thread. | ||
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TheToast
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Who is looking scummy to you right now? | ||
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On February 03 2012 06:19 Sinensis wrote: I'm just going to point this out from prplhz's only big post: and then later on down the post votes sinani206, the other veteran. Are you using the same strategy as last game prplhz? You scum this game too? Also I noticed you changed your vote to me as soon as I was the first one to even attempt to talk organization/strategy. I noticed that too. I'm curious, who do you think should get taken down first? | ||
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TheToast
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On February 03 2012 07:19 Sinensis wrote: So far Sentinal, prplhz, and Bluelightz. I haven't narrowed it down to one yet but as of this moment it's them, in that order. Bluelightz could easily be innocent...Sentinal and prplhz I'm not so sure about. If it's not Bluelightz, who do you think the third person could be? | ||
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TheToast
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Right now I'm convinced that Bluelightz is Scum. But first let's start off with why Sinesis: is a townie. I was pretty worried about him a few pages back, he seemed to be advocating for a vote system that clearly was a benefit to Mafia. After I called him out about it, suddendly he started suspecting the same people that a few posts earlier I had expressed suspecion about and then said I was confirmed town. Odd. But in reviewing his posts, I found two interesting details: Also, due to the nature of this Chaos infestation, neither side can distinguish friendlies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. To me these quotes suggest that Sinesis really just doesn't know how the game works. His idea about the "vote leader" also suggests townie to me, Mafia would know they could just use their KP on that person. Newer mafia player is also going to be much more reserved, rather than come out loudly suggesting terrible ideas. I think an agent of the enemy would look fairer, and feel fowler Bluelightz Let's start with the obvious scum. His first post is a dead giveaway: + Show Spoiler [Long Ass Post] + On February 02 2012 18:09 Bluelightz wrote: Sup guys got my role PM anyway, Here's my take on roles 1 Of the vets(Sinani/prplhz) is SCUM(Not sure about this tho if GM wants to screw with us 3/3 Chaos Followers Remain ?/1 Chaos Cultist(s) ?/1 Chaos Fatespinner(s) ?/1 Chaos Plaguebearer(s) ?/0 Chaos Hedonist(s) 9/9 Imperial Forces Remain ?/5/6 Imperial Guardsmen ?/1?Imperial Priest(s) ?/1? Imperial Psyker(s) ?/1?Imperial Stormtrooper(s) ?/1? Imperial Commissar(s) ?/1/2? Tainted By Chaos DISREGARD ANY CLAIMS BESIDES THE TOWN ROLES ABOVE. Also, note to everyone if we have a dt please breadcrumb your results so if you die we can find them Never, NEVER, I repeat never NO LYNCH D1 Anyways to who I think is possibly a traitor among us, ##Vote: Sinensis No one, should decide who to lynch, people themselves should decide who to vote. Also: Fluff "I think we should kill first night, I think we should kill first night again" VOTING How many mislynches till LYLO( including mafia kills, but not delay) not including possible vig kills/dt checks/medic heals/vet hits + Show Spoiler + 12-3 -> 10-3 10-3 -> 8-3 8-3 -> 6-3 6-3 -> 4-3 4-3(LYLO) Voting Strat: ~Never, never never EVER RNG Lynch(Though there is that 25% chance >.<) ~We should always lynch d1 because without the first lynch we will lack lots of information without it. ~LA-Lurkers, If we don't find a lynch candidate I'm fine with lynching a lurker Lurkers: Lurkers HURT TOWN, if you are lurking STOP IT. I will not tolerate lurkers, in Mini Mafia's with not a lot of people Lurkers hurt real bad. Lurkers, hurt town how? ~Less Information ~Less possibilities for lynching ~Possibly a vote lost to town, because most lurkers sheep. Closing words: I will tolerate lurkers for the first 24 hours because not all players are awake/have acces to the computer to post. Spoilering because it is STUPID long What is all of this? Is any of this useful information? No. This is all pointless junk that bluelightz threw in because he wanted to make it seem like he was doing some in depth analysis. What he really did was just call out the townie who was being the loudest and avocating a dumb idea. A very clear Mafia tactic. Look back, it was actually bluelightz who started the bandwagon on Sinesis. After Sinesis accuses him of having an agenda, Bluelightz immediately changes course and unvotes Sinesis. Then prplhz hops on the bandwagon (remember this) as does [UoN]Sentinel. Based on this development Bluelightz decides to again vote for Sinesis. (why in the world would two other people voting for the same guy make you change your vote???) When I called out Bluelightz for this very thing, he AGAIN changed course and unvoted Sinesis. After ET calls out Timeasis, Bluelightz again hops on the bandwagon and FOS's him. Then bluelightz changes him mind AGAIN and votes mdrg + Show Spoiler [Another Long Ass Post] + On February 03 2012 16:36 Bluelightz wrote: Hmm, @Sentinel I take back my setup guess so my latest guess of each and I think the setup is 1 DT & Medic + 7 vt + 2 scum + 1 rb Since Sentinel is getting bandwaggoned(?) I'm gonna see why poeple voted him Timeaisis You dont simply sheep, if you think prp is scum push HIM and not what other people think is scum.Though sheeping is not necesarrily scummy, I'm leaning scummy/newb town on him. This makes me suspicious of him, are you trying to lead town to not believe that there is a Hedonist? Sentinel's post could easily be a guess On his first paragraph, There is no way people can vote without reason on day1(not including sheeping). Would people just go away and just leave posts saying ##Vote: __________? Also coupled with some lurking( not thaat bad though) I am voting him. ##Vote: mderg Sinensis Voting cause other people voting him? Sup sheep.If you would vote someone you could at least provide a reason.This thing might be newb town so, I'm holding of the thought of lynching Sinensis Nisani He explains his reasons later on, and by the way he's posting he's Null to me. That's it Sinani please post some more, ty! Interesting thing here is the defense of Sentinel. "Since Sentinel is getting bandwaggoned(?) I'm gonna see why poeple voted him". Okay. Then proceeds to "see" why Timeasis went against Sentinel. You dont simply sheep, if you think prp is scum push HIM and not what other people think is scum.Though sheeping is not necesarrily scummy, I'm leaning scummy/newb town on him. Now wait, this seems more like you are telling Timeasis should not vote Sentinel. Not really a fair analysis. Then he proceeds to "analyze" Mderg. On his first paragraph, There is no way people can vote without reason on day1(not including sheeping). Would people just go away and just leave posts saying ##Vote: __________? Also coupled with some lurking( not thaat bad though) Wait, so we went from seeing "why" people were bandwagoning on Sentinel (without giving ANY reason why you thought Sentinel was clean) to accusing mderg in one paragraph. Wtf? I also find it interesting that after mderg points out what may be a mafia slip up from Sentinel, you immediately start attacking him. Smooth. What's the defense to all of this? ~Im kinda wishy-washy with reads, look at Purgatory Mafia d1 if you want to take a look KIND OF???? At this point I am 100% convinced that Bluelightz is Chaos scum, and he would seem to have inadvertantly fingered Sentinel along with him. Right now I'm going Bluelightz as I am very sure he is Mafia, less so about Sentinel. I would prefer to take out the confirmed scum first, but if we get close to Night 1 and most votes are still on Sentinel, I will switch to ensure we get the 7 needed. ##Vote Bluelightz | ||
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TheToast
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I'm not entirely sure who the third is yet. I have some ideas, but not enough evidence to make a definate claim. If we get some more responses from people I'll let you know. As I said I'm fairly confident Sentinel is the second, but not 100% sure. Also, I'm fairly confident sinani206 is town. If he was Mafia, he would be much more active this game. He's vet enough to know that when Mafia Lurk they tend to lose. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 04 2012 02:25 mderg wrote: This also seems odd to me. You agreed with others and went with the flow quite often. This might indicate a lack of interest to bring in much of your own thoughts, something I see more on the scummy side. Doesn´t make you scum but: FoS: Timeaisis I highly doubt that Timeaisis is scum. First is the fact that he is a first time Mafia, GM is not the kind of host that would put a first time player on scumteam. Very quick way for the game to be over. His vote against Vilonis also tips me off that he is townie, Mafia would not want to draw extra attention to themselves like that. First time Mafia also tend to want to lurk to avoid causing any suspecion. Also his current vote is on Sentinel. Most of us seem to be in agreement that there is a good chance Sentinel is scum, a view I hope you would support since that's who you have voted. Mafia (epsecially first time Mafia) are not going to jump onto the bandwagon of one of their own. His analysis is not very good. Going with the flow does not indicate scummyness, actually probably the oposite. Focus on the people we have good analysis against so far; Sentinel and Bluelightz. Whoever the third person is, I am willing to bet they are more of a Vet. There are a few people who have so far been playing too perfectly, I don't want to call anyone out yet before we have good evidence as I don't want to risk a townie getting bandwagoned. But there are a few people we need to focus on to get more information from. Take a look, I think you will see the people I am talking about. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 04 2012 04:06 prplhz wrote: EchelonTee is making a lot of sense. TheToast isn't. ##Unvote: Sinensis ##Vote: Timeasis Since lynch is tonight everybody should vote Timeasis so we can lynch scum. That's exactly what I was waiting for. The level of analysis here is positively staggering. I love how effectively you responded to all of my points about Timeaisis. [/sarcasm] This is a bandwagoning if I've ever seen one. Where's your analysis of Timeasis or Et's post? Why is lynching "someone" better than lynching no one? So many votes are already on Sentinel, why shouldn't we lynch him? Combined with your bizzare behavior early on, I'm now positive you are scum as well. Thanks for making this really obvious. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 04 2012 04:54 sinani206 wrote: OK, so we have 2 lynch candidates: timeaisis and sentinel. Everyone not on these should switch to them now to make sure we have no stragglers at lynch time. (Bluelightz/Vilonis/TheToast) The fact that they are voting for each other already makes me pretty sure that one of them is mafia. Timeaisis is looking more newb-town with the quick votes on him, so I will be voting for sentinel who has gone quiet since he took the lead in votes. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel Why are we focused on Sentinel? As I said before, I'm still not 100% convinced he's chaos. Bluelightz and prplhz are the much more obvious chaos-scum. We should be going after them until we can get a psyker read on Sentinel. Also you forgot about our lurker-in-cheif BaronFel. Who for some reason is still got his vote on Sinesis and only 2 posts. Idleness leads to heresy | ||
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I'm so excited to play mafia. I simply don't have the will power to wait for the next Newbie Mini Mafia to start playing. 
