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RayzorFlash
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- I feel like Sheth is our best option today, since I don't think Rad has any reason to lie at this point - I think Toad/Doc are probably being truthful at this point and are town, I would lump them both together into the same person though, so if rgTS flips as a sane DT, both of them would be gone IMO - I think Palmar is a lot more of a loose cannon and don't know what to believe with respect to him. I just don't buy his Joker claim that easily, I don't know why... Gut feeling I guess... - hiro needs to post more Anyways, working on filter analysis/spreadsheet/etc... look forward to scumhunting with y'all! | ||
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I was working on an analysis of Chaoser, and his actions on Day 1 don't seem that scummy to me, but the hard Day 2 push to set up a lynch after Sheth is lynched seems reallyyyyy scummy... I don't have a solid opinion on that yet, and I still think we lynch Sheth today to verify Radfield. Oh and, I don't think anyone's mentioned this, but Palmar can't POSSIBLY be as crazy as he's posting with randomly not remembering stuff he did the previous day. Methinks he has some sort of role text restriction that gives him split personality disorder / lunacy... The characters that might work well with such a restriction (disregarding other peoples claims, and actual logic) are: Joker, Harley Quinn, Scarecrow (different night personality than day maybe?), Two-face, Calendar Man, and Clayface... None of the mafia power-roles seem to logically work with this restriction, so I'm inclined to lean very slightly towards Palmar being town (or i'm totally off-base with my logic... lol) | ||
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On February 11 2012 02:33 chaoser wrote: The setup only works if palmar doesn't die. And that isn't controlled by mafia, it's controlled by batman. So it would make no sense if I was mafia to try to set up a lynch off something that I wouldn't even be in control of. This is true... But Batman might not even go after Joker if its confirmed though, he might start working on finding out who Hugo is, leaving Joker to be killed by Mafia or lynched by town. He doesn't need to kill Joker right now if he already knows who he is and can kill him at any time... Thus, the lynch wouldn't be controlled by Batman either... There is definitely a possibility that Palmar remains alive after tonight... On February 11 2012 02:35 rgTheSchworz wrote: Scummy post detected. He tries to dismiss a situation that has an enormous amount of WIFOM, but also some info to be snatched. Then he says that Chaoser setting up a chain lynch is really scummy. Notice how he doesn t agree or disagree with Palmar. He wants to keep safe, not taking sides. He then states that Sheth should still be lynched today, to verify radfield. But if Palmar is town, which he certainly seems now, Radfield is black, or the scum DT, Ra s. Ra s is a very important role for scum, he wouldnt put himself at risk by claiming DT. So no desperate need to confirm Rad, we can vig sheth anyways. Then this poster speculates insaneness and whatnot. Clearly bullshit. - Sure theres info to be snatched, but read the past few pages and you'll see that nearly all of it is just rampant speculation on something that, really, there is no chance of addressing right now anyway (I don't think you get lynched today that is, I think today's lynch has more or less been set since Rad's claim)... Gathering info is fine, but WIFOM speculation is pointless, thread-cluttering, and confusing - I agree with Palmar, but I'm not sure enough of my opinion to immediately vote Chaoser, mostly because his Day 1 actions (except for a pretty weak reason to switch his vote to C_C) don't seem scummy to me... I'm gonna keep an eye on him though, two if I can spare them - I don't think anyone is town, except maybe Toad... Palmar could be lying again, in which case everything we think we know breaks down. There are multiple possibilities. What you're saying is true if Palmar is saying the truth, then Rad is either black or Ra's, If Palmar is faking his shot, or even just faking the fact that it is unblockable, suddenly Rad could be black, green, or even red fake-claiming DT... I entered this game with an "everyone is guilty until proven innocent" mentality because of how many stupid mislynches I supported in my first game, lol... Officially [b]##Vote: Liquid'Sheth/b] | ||
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On February 11 2012 03:00 layabout wrote: I would ask if you are out of your mind but it seems quite clear that you are Agreed, random ninja vote change wtf... | ||
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Toad is definitely confirmed Town now at least, lol... | ||
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On February 12 2012 14:19 chaoser wrote: ico/rayzorflash is mafia chaoser is mafia Kurumi is town, unless WBG pushing him madly for nearly 3 pages of his filter was severe bussing | ||
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On February 12 2012 14:35 chaoser wrote: If I'm mafia then I must be world-class Oh that you are <3 I do agree with your last opinion on Palmar though, his insanely reckless/trolly play makes me think he's almost certainly black, and can just wreak havoc on the town while he goes about his own agenda. If he's scum, he's got balls of steel, lol... also: On February 08 2012 12:21 Kurumi wrote: My train of thought WBG is scummy. No way of swinging lynch on him. He defends Sheth, high probability of being scumbuddies. Proceed to vote Sheth. Then I get caught in my stupidity. My faith in my read on WBG crumbles. CC is the guy I never investigated because I tunneled people I've seen on my scum list. Layabout is on me now, was on CC. No way to get him up for lynch either. Forfeit him in favor of WBG. Then I get caught on being narrowminded and that most of my reads are for shreds. Although, Qualis still rubs me wrong way. Low activity, scummy behaviour, like, I can't be that wrong. I wonder if Kuru can bat 3 for 3 on this post... lol | ||
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On February 12 2012 14:57 rgTheSchworz wrote: DrH was doublestacked. He s freaking clayface he needs 2 shots. Who vigged WBG? CW/BM didn t shoot WBG. Look at what he posts. He sticks to Kurumi and Rad/Me.He defo wanst Joker or any kind of vig/DT. More scum than anythig else. Kurumi s town btw, there s no way these 2 are scum together. Maybe Rad killed him, I would assume that only if Rad does not post his check or posts that he checked a completely random townie. WBG, as Ra's, needed either 2 shots or 1 unblockable shot, as such it seems most likely that it was a Batman/Catwoman hit, because I don't think two vigs would have both gone after him... | ||
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On February 12 2012 15:24 evantrees wrote: Um what? Looks like he started as a plain VET+DT to me, If he took a hit already and was being protected that would be the case. Was he already hit scummy bugger? Thats what I meant. Basically (correct me if I'm wrong) but I only see these 3 options: - he was double-stacked by vigis last night, highly unlikely - he was vigi hit once night 1, and nobody claimed it for some reason, and then once night 2, decently unlikely - he was hit by an unblockable shot, i.e. Batman/Catwoman/anyone else who gets an unblockable shot that we don't know about due to role, pretty likely Out of these, the most likely one is that he was hit by Batman/Catwoman, no? :-S | ||
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I buy Schworz' chaoser DT check and guess he's gotta be town/blue and I just didnt understand his actions yesterday setting up a Palmar lynch for today... Hiro's been lurking and asking to be hit too much to make me comfortable... His explicit requests to be lynched make me very uncomfortable... I wonder if that's WIFOM or he's actually really busy I want to vote Quails just to see if Kurumi was right about another call in that post, lol... Tunkeg has been wishy-washy the entire game, being suspicious of about 12 different people, but never making a really solid case against any of them Adam nearly switching off Sheth on day 2 (unvoting in here but not in official vote thread) needs to be remembered in any list where we put together everyone who voted for and didn't vote (saw a couple while reading, too sleepy to find them exactly) Also: Riddler is labeled as a Vigi in the game description, and we more or less know theres a riddler in the game because of the "Riddler's Game" starting (i think it was Day 2 that it started?) - Do we have any idea who he's hit so far?? | ||
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My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol... ##vote: Radfield | ||
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On February 14 2012 05:47 kitaman27 wrote: After the bugs flip, he wants us all to know that he is going to go through bug's filter. So what have you learned? What conclusions did your analysis give us? He fails to ever follow up with this point. I did follow through, the only solid read I got from that was that Kuru was confirmed town, the rest of WBG's filter was pretty irrelevant and it gave me soft-reads of town on Schworz, VE, and BM, and soft-reads of scum on Chaoser and Adam... Next comes his interaction with chaoser, his one and only mafia suspect. Never does Rayzor actually provide a case. When faced with Schworz's "check", he immediately backs off. For someone who is your lead scum suspect, why are you so willing to believe this? Schworz never even stated the result of his check, yet you're clearly willing to accept it. I took Kuru's "confirmation" of Schworz' role at face value and that was clearly wrong of me to do so because I believed Kuru was town and had no reason to lie about it... With the recent revelation of that being wrong, I am more than willing to push against Chaoser. There's quite a few things about chaoser that made me suspicious: - Changing vote from Sheth to CC on day 1 with a very weak reason, just because CC was still suspicious of Schworz, which a lot of people were on day 1 - Pushing a Palmar lynch for when the Sheth lynch was done, setting up a future lynch without any clear reason - OMGUS against me, Toad, and Palmar whenever we tried to make a case against him Finally, rather than searching for an alternative candidate, he jumps on the radfield/palmar wagon. He doesn't even call either of them scum. He is willing to trust Schworz the proven liar as a detective, but not Radfield, the guy who claimed the Sheth check? I never was willing to trust Schworz, I was willing to trust Kurumi. Also, the Sheth check doesnt immediately make Radfield a saint in my books because a) there was already a lot of suspicion on Sheth b) claiming in order to out someone that was already likely to get lynched is a weak move, especially since Rad did it so early in the day too. There was no need to claim then unless scum was bussing sheth, it'd probably have been better to stay hidden and push for Sheth's likely lynch without coming out as a DT. Those are the main reasons I'm voting for Rad. As an aside re-reading that post made me realize I accidentally a sentence, stupid typing on phone... EBWOP: That being said I'd rather vote for Radfield than Palmar because I've agreed with a lot of Palmar's reads when he's not being an idiot. | ||
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Not revealing any details of the game, hope thats allowed, lol | ||
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I'm kicking you for choosing Ico though... Lol | ||
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Whether you choose to trust me on that is up to y'all, lol... I just want town to win -_- | ||
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I hate you kita, lol | ||
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