BC's Arkham City

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Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

January 25 2012 19:05 GMT

#33

Yeah..........BC we need more details right meow! Can there be a Jester role please?

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

January 26 2012 04:22 GMT

#40

I'll sign up for now to get the ball rolling.

/In

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 06 2012 16:19 GMT

#302

/confirm

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 06 2012 18:20 GMT

#325

On February 06 2012 20:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

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On February 06 2012 20:03 Tunkeg wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:50 Tobberoth wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:36 Tunkeg wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:25 Tunkeg wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:04 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

On February 06 2012 19:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

This would be a good example of that. Because Batman wins off lynches, it doesn't benefit for him to work actively against us. Point out the guy you think is Hugo, don't hand over the vig to Batman. Trading the Joker for a 100% Joker kill that night/day is a good trade. Why would we out Joker to help a third party that has to help us anyway when we can keep our vig potentially for a couple days at least? That's not a good plan. He doesn't gain powers from killing Joker, it's just part of his win condition.

If we don't hand the joker over, Batman has to guess who he is, and has a reason to shoot townies.

And why would he not shoot townies looking for Hugo? On "honor"? He can't claim so we can't hold him to it and he doesn't care if we win or not. He's going to either DT or shoot every night based on his preferences regardless of whether or not he hits Joker early or not. It will take him a bit out of the game sooner, but isn't this irrelevant considering no one is supposedly allowed to roleclaim anyway?

I disagree. If Batman gets Joker early on he have no reason to just go hit hit hit. Him just hitting blindly after getting one of his target may just whittle down one of the allignement to a point where Batman may risk:

A: Getting daylynch (chance increase when number of remaining players decrease)
B: One side winning (causing Batman to lose if he have lynched Hugo, but not Joker and town winning, or if he have lynched Joker, but not Hugo and scum winning).

So Batmans should hit hit hit until he gets one of the targets (or one side is getting low) and then he MUST DT, that is optimal for Batman IMO.

That's why he shouldn't hit hit hit at all but use his DT power and only hit when he has a match. That is the safest way to play the role for the exact reasons you claim. There's no reason to give up the Joker Day 1 when we don't even know what Batmans going to do and I can tell you already if he's a smart player he's going to use the DT

I agree Batman should DT mid to late game. But for the first 2-3 nights he should just hit. I belive that trading the Joker for either getting Batman to be on the townside or getting Hugo killed (if that happends very soon after Joker death) is a good deal for town. As I have said before, if Batman gets Joker he can pretty much play a very pro-town standard game, as he then basicly wins with town, and he only loses by scum winning or him getting lynched. He will then push pro-town lynches all the way until he gets Hugo, as he he can't be lynched by night, and playing pro-town (even revealing some of his DT checks as XX is town, or YY is scum basicly softclaiming DT) so he won't get lynched by town during the day.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? In the first days, there's little to go on, so all his hits will be blind and he'll just lower the amount of players for nothing since he doesn't know what he will hit. Sounds to me like a better idea to use the safe period of the early game to DT and get a feel for what players he needs to hit/not hit later. If Batman hits players randomly in the first few days, there's a risk he'll kill of scums which is bad for him since it gives the town a much better chance to kill off the scum before Batman gets the joker. Later in the game, discussions have probably led to clues so he can more easily hit townies directly when looking for the joker.

Seems to me that by logic, batman should be most dangerous for townies the later we get in the game without joker being killed, while it should be decently safe early on.

Well, both your way, Dr H's way and my way might all be viable strategies for Batman, it depends on many things though.

My way: Early hits is pretty safe for Batman as both factions are far from elimination. Therefor my logic is that he might as well just hit and try his luck instead of DT the ones he suspects and then later hit them.

Dr H's way: DT all the way until he finds his targets. Secure that Batman don't help any faction, and is the safer option as he won't whittle away any of the factions. It might take longer for Batman to secure his objectives compared to my way, but it is definatly safer.

Your way: DT early and hit late makes Batmans hit more accurate as he have less people to chose from. But this is the most risky strat of it all for Batman IMO. Cause if Batman misshit lategame he might just end the game.

Well, now I have rambled on long enough about the Joker claim thing. I think all of you know where I stand and why. Unless someone want me to clarify more on my stance I will just leave this for now, so other topics may be discussed or others might put in their two cents on the Joker claim thing.

If the early DT checks die, it was all for naught. He might as well shoot into the dark.

I've read 3 pages so far, and I'm already annoyed by your spam and nonsensical posting. If anything you should worry about CatWoman and not Batman, if you even spent 15 seconds reading their description there is no point in killing him. Also half your posts are shitty advice posts for the batman, again waste of time.

Why would he shoot into the dark and risk not killing someone?(No Info) That is one night he wastes in not finding his objectives. He should be dting every night, and using that information to fish in this thread to find better choices in DTing to narrow his 2 suspects as soon as possible. Find Catwoman - she dies, find Batman nothing happens. Why are you and others wasting time discussing this? That makes me suspicious already.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 06 2012 22:23 GMT

#379

*unrelated to this game* TUNKEG - You better edit out that picture, before you get the hammer in the nuts.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 06 2012 22:42 GMT

#385

On February 07 2012 07:36 Kurumi wrote:

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You're actively lurking
I think I have a plan
hell yeah

Well, I'm at work but regardless there isn't much to discuss right now.

Kurumi is not cute. You get my lynch vote, but I'll reconsider that later on in the day when I'm feeling less trolly.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 07 2012 22:41 GMT

#693

I was going to keep the vote on CC as it was my best read early on in the thread, was hoping for something better though. If I had to choose between Sheth and CC, guess my vote will sit on CC then.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 20:55 GMT

#1142

On February 09 2012 04:02 Jackal58 wrote:

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Since over half the people in this game and perhaps as many as 2/3s are aware of the "other" forum as you put it and since BM felt compelled to tell the entire game about it allow me to verify that the other forum does indeed exist. It's a QT created by BC. In that QT there are 13 players other than myself. They are there because I invited them. Not everybody that has received an invite has posted in it. Most have. But not all. There is no significant activity level difference between those that avail themselves of it and their activity in the game thread. There is no discussion going on in it that has not occurred here. The level of profanity may be a bit higher. The level of insults may be a tad greater as well. I haven't tried to quantify it.
I had to send out invites prior to the end of day 1. I would have preferred to wait til the end of night 1 but that's not my call.
11 of the people I chose are all people I have played a multitude of times with. They are also for the most part all people that I hold in high regard for their ability to play this game. I chose 2 others at random towards the end of the day.
If you did not get an invite don't take it personally. I reworked my list several times in order to get what I saw as a group of people that could eventually all work towards a common goal. I am well aware that this cannot happen on day one. For rest assured there is without any doubt members of the scum team in there.
However this circle remains active even in the event of my death. So I chose who I felt would eventually give town the greatest chance of winning.

1 Bill Murray
2 Hiro Protagonist
3 Doctor Helvetica
4 Risk.nuke
5 Opz
6 Kitaman27
7 forumite
8 Radfield
9 Palmar
10 Chaoser
11 Wherebugsgo
12 Tyran
13 evantrees

Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.

Sorry guys, but what the fuck is going on in here? There is a rule which disallows PMing, which is the equivalent of barring outside discussion. The only people who are allowed to have a "meeting" is scum. Is this or is this not correct? Either way just having a secret circle and pretending its a "mason circle" is bullshit. I want out of the game if this is not against the rules. Straight up.

"PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game unless a role states otherwise."

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 21:13 GMT

#1166

On February 09 2012 06:01 chaoser wrote:

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We're not pming...it's an ability of a role. There are games where PMs aren't allowed but have masons as roles.

Sorry, there is no description of what the roles do. From what there is on the frontpage, I don't see any mention of a mason role. I'm missing something obvious here, and it's infuriating me.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 21:45 GMT

#1194

Can someone or Bloodyc0bbler please address my question? BC if you want to PM me about it(if that's acceptable) please do.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 21:52 GMT

#1198

On February 09 2012 06:48 Forumite wrote:

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Obviously there is more to this game than what the OP says, BC has allready confirmed this by saying that the Neighbor-circle is legit. I doubt you´ll learn anything more, but if you want to get BCs attention, use green bolded text.

How in the hell is anyone supposed to know that unless you're in the "circle"? This was not specified in the OP, as far as I was concerned reading it, it was exactly the same to TL Mafia L - with 3rd parties.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 21:54 GMT

#1200

Forget it, BC clarified. I was never a part of the original Arkham, so I had no bloody clue what was going on.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

February 08 2012 22:05 GMT

#1204

On February 09 2012 06:56 Toadesstern wrote:
it's really not that hard to understand. There's a shitload of people who fucked up big time and posted way too much information. Schworz being one of them, or he's a mafia playing the noob card but I doubt that.
Read the thread and you'll understand ...

Actually it fucking is, because in the OP it writes "there will be tweaking", but unless this was brought up in the thread nobody would know when there was tweaking. Don't you think that effects the game balance? How are people fucking supposed to play without knowing all the rules? Are you trolling me or what?