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+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out. | ||
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On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote: . Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything. Then why do you claim town? To look interesting? I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here. You get all jittery and angry when I vote you. FoS : Kenpachi Also ##Unvote Guess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe. RVS over. I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking. Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post have fun going through all of his posts. maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time. | ||
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On February 07 2012 04:30 Tobberoth wrote: So wait, it's a requirement to read up on all previous mafias everyone in the game has participated in? I think not. Why so aggressive? If you are going to vote for somebody you should at least bother to look at how their play typically looks. This can help prevent you from making bad assumptions about their posting and arriving at weak/flawed conclusions. A quick look at any of Kenpachi's games would tell you that you should ignore the townie claim and that you should not be making an issue of it. I was also amused that rgTheSchworz has put his FoS on a player that lurks heavily. Plus the KP/lynches "very minor scumslip" is ridiculous. I understand that sometimes players like to vote to get reactions and generate discussion, but i think that there have been far more votes than is necessary so far and i do not think townies should be voting early when they have next to no information or putting down place-holder votes at the start of the day. Who benefits more from being able to vote without a proper reason. Scum or town? | ||
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On February 07 2012 05:52 Jayjay54 wrote: Is he normally vocal? He normally posts about a page day1, it is not unusual for him to post very little. he is typically aggressive. he has only ever been town he absolutely hates it when you try to "meta" him. Here is a post i made when i was scum about him in a game in which he looked sorta scummy but was town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603¤tpage=32#630 his previous games (which you may want to look at) Election mafia (town) Tl Mafia XLVII (town) Steamship (Tl mafia 46) (town) Newbie mini mafia (town) TL Mafia XLV (town) Hammer mini Mafia (town) | ||
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On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:"layabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself". Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either bold: evidence please Perhaps you are referring to when i said: "there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out." or maybe: "maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time." i also criticised excessive early voting. i feel that you are deliberately mis-interpreting my posts. underlined: that applies to far too many people to be the basis for a lynch. In fact the content you are provided suggers that you yourself do not have a clue about who is scum. At least i have the decency to not waste peoples time with fluff or tedious walls-of-text explaining weak/stupid reads that i cannot stand by. | ||
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the names above the key are there because there was no room below the key. that picture will become my primary tool for scumhunting in this and quite likely furture games. it is similar in essence to a Nisani "node graph" but is better because it is in paint. You also prompted me to add a new section for those players that i just cannot read I present Arkham city V 2.0.1.png: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/i9O8W.png) | ||
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Radfield past games http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=52884 Election Mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=52884 TL Mafia XLVIII http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=52884 TL Mafia XLVII http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281403&user=52884 Team Melee Mini Mafia - Couples Therapy http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=52884 Pick Your Power Interesting! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264699&user=52884 Lord of the Rings Mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240842&user=52884 Merc Mini 2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235762&user=52884 Closed Casket Mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218973&user=52884 Pick Your Power Insane! On February 07 2012 23:18 Tunkeg wrote: I want to lynch layabout today, why? Reason 1: He have only been dicking around. Not posting anything of value (well, this is the case for many players you might say. Reason 2: He is creating "tools" for scumhunting that is totally useless (funny, yeah, maybe, depends). Exactly like he did with his Bullshit formula in Purgatory, where he was scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603¤tpage=74#1464 Layabout is the first to point out anything he sees as bad, crappy, stupid etc etc. And from my limited knowledge of his play I think his scumhunting is pretty good. So for him to post such distracting crap like this I see as scummy. Reason 3 He is scared. I have called him out twice (three times counting this post) allready and he haven't talked back. What's up with that mister superaggressive? Is it because you know I am the king of tunneling, and as scum don't want this kind of attention? I think a layabout town would go straight for my throat after these posts. He is just sitting back and taking it. Come out, bring your a-game, be your obnoxious scumhunting SOB layabout townie, or face the hangman tonight as the fooling around scum layabout. #Vote: layabout remember how in student we had a little "falling out"? i think you need to remember that what happens in the thread stays in thread and you should not let your (admittedly justifiable) hatred of me make you see red where there is none. None of the reasons you have given have any relation to my alignment. layabout He is just beeing his lovely sarcastic self. Thus far he have only been posting smirk comments and useless crap. As I know him from Student mafia, he is a total prick, but that is ok, because he actually was playing a great town game. This time around he is just a useless prick. Time to step up man? I have only one rule: Be Polite. You should not have called my a prick. It's bullying. I was hoping that by ignoring you you would go away. If anything this game i have tried to be a sort-of "lovable arsehole", sure i am a bit of a prick but i am a prick with a smile.  Is this some new crap like your Bullshitformula in Purgetory where you were scum? That bullshit formula was and is an effective means to hunt scum that should be more successful than the average TL town. Why are you trying to draw parallels between my play in that game and my play in this one. I made that post because i was frustrated and had WAY too much time on my hands. In that game i threw effort at the thread, in this game i have been useless and fairly neutral in my posting. Nevertheless how is that post (the MS paint pic) indicative of my alignment? I wonder how not responding shows that i am "scared". Tunkeg you called me useless (i have been) and you criticised my bullshit formula. I didn't think it was worth responding to. You then threw a vote on me which has prompted a response but it does not contain much, because there is not a lot to say. To me it appears that Tunkeg doesn't like me, he may be trying to pressure me but i feel like he just wants to vote for the sake of it.... Speaking of which i never really explained my vote for cyber cheese. I was going to post this back on page 17 in but decided not to i have spoilered first bit because the initial discussion should not be brought up over and over, but i have left it there anyway: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On February 07 2012 04:31 Kurumi wrote: All Your posts are utter garbage. Do I need to motivate You with a vote to help Town? Oh wait, maybe You don't want to help us? Why are You defending Kenpachi? Do you honestly think that Kenpachi's posting shows us that he is likely to be scum? The focus on him is stupid and i think we should abandon that path of thought. If i were to say: "Kurumi has not posted any tf2 related videos yet, i reckon that means that he is scum, voteKurumi" any player would be entitled to tell me that that is bullcrap and that i should not be trying to lynch you for that reason. It is not an issue of defending anybody. It is an issue of bad reasoning. That said i think that Ken is nearly always a reasonable lynch and that he is therefore easy to lynch. If we want to hunt scum pressuring Kenpachi seems like a bad way to start. Conversely, since mafia do not want us to successfully hunt scum such discussion is a good way for them to start Cyber Cheese As a player that has advocated an anti-town move i think that cyber cheese would be a far better lynch candidate. Yes that is basically it. I know its weak. But there isn't much to go on yet. (most of this has been said already) Joker does not need to claim. Joker claiming costs town a vig and has no considerable benefits -Batman cannot communicate directly with us so we cannot know if Batman intends to help town -Batman could still hit town whether or not the Joker is alive, if town is winning it makes sense for batman to kill town. -Batman could simply use DT powers to find Hugo and not kill scum (other than Hugo), which doesn't help town since -Batman would still need to kill Hugo Strange whether the Joker is alive or not On February 06 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote: This could be a perfectly pro-town - contribute if you are town post. As a side note, if you don't want a topic discussed, add in a topic that will create discussion in it's place. It could also be an "I know my plan is useless and that following it would benefit scum but please don't just call it bad, think of another (hopefully unproductive) topic and discuss that instead" If he felt that claiming Joker was worth considering and benficial to town, it would make sense to try to discuss it and push it. Instead this post would remove his responsibility for discussing a pro-mafia move. I suppose i didn't post it because i often prepare posts and then don't post them because they aren't good enough. + Show Spoiler + You may wish to pause and think about what this means i was also wondering who would still be pushing players using the logic of "they have best useless therefore they must be scum" So far nearly every player that has been put forward to be lynched has had something in common: They have not behaved in a way that suggests that they have an above average chance of flipping scum. Most people pushing cases have been doing so not because they have substance but because of "some other reason that is probably not pro-town" + Show Spoiler [Examples of poor lynch targets] + Bill Murray Kenpachi rgtheschworz - i know some people had reasons but they were not good slardar jaybrundage layabout -_-Qualis All of that negative crap said We now have a few candidates that might actually be scum: Toad Cyber+Cheese Sheth maybe someone else | ||
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On February 08 2012 01:21 Toadesstern wrote: oh gosh it's L all over again. Yes I'm mafia and I'm going to buss all my mafia buddies to get towncred and afterwards win on my own... Too easy | ||
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On February 08 2012 01:35 Toadesstern wrote: It was a sarcastic statement refering to that L game. prot made a list that had something like 4 people in there + myself and said all 5 are mafia. I think I said all 4 other people are good lynches or pushed for them myself so I told him he's bullshitting because as a mafia I'd probably not bus so many people day1 if he really thinks the list is right. Same with your list. Sheth is a nice list and I agree with lynching him, Cybercheese is my vote and the one I'm "pushing" today. Do you really think I am mafia if you think those 2 are mafia or is that just OMGUS because I said you're my #2 ? That's the post I was referring to (not the complete list, only those with an explanation): + Show Spoiler [click me!] + On January 19 2012 12:02 Protactinium wrote: GGQ is cool. Mafia don't send out reminders that they defended mafia. Mafia also don't ask to be vigged, since they can't influence vigs, but they certainly can influence lynches. Nobody lynch him today, keke? Here's the new list of mafias. L kingjames BM Toadesstern SANDROBA Jackal bumatlarge opz chaosquo Now this list is too big for them to all be mafia, but is the best place to start. Brief explanations on the new people on the list: BM. In contrast to BM's day 1 posting, his day 2 is abyssmal. Its also become less frequent too, which exactly fits my prediction if he is mafia, as his mafia play deteriorates rapidly (for cross reference, TL Mafia XXII where he is the mafia GF). And yes I should be one to know this read as I was mafia with him in that game. Toadesstern Filter all of Toadesstern's posts. Search for all instances of GGQ. Confirm that Toadesstern has never made a case on GGQ, and has in fact been preventing his lynch all yesterday. "I still think my case is good"? Lol. Bullshit. See a trend here? Also combine with my pressure yesterday, which showed that Toadesstern somehow knew what happened behind the scenes with sandroba influencing BC with Palmar's lynch. Sandroba. Again, abyssmal day 2 posting compared to day 1. The case totally makes sense if you consider that Toadesstern somehow knows what goes on between sandroba/BC. As for explanations related to Ciryandor, yeah, mafia usually don't do that. But they do avoid pushing too hard where they can avoid it. Sandroba was never a viable mayor candidate, never votes for mayor (neutral, I suppose, but he doesn't vote for the person who brought up the Ciryandor case - read: me), and influences the Palmar lynch. Over Ciryandor, the person whose death he has supposedly been calling for all game in thread. Combined, these points outweigh his in thread support of Ciryandor. I know I vocally said he was town yesterday. But I lied. I only said that because I needed to get macpo lynched first lol. bumatlarge. His apathetic posting and general lack of enthusiasm is strikingly different from his usual active town play. And now I'm out of time. Need to post this before I potentially bite the dust. Yes this is a double post. For some reason I am always cursed with posting when my post will end up at the bottom of a page. Why did you respond to something that isn't remotely serious with something serious when the original unserious response was a response to you yourself not being serious? i mean seriously? besides there is a difference between players that are good lynch targets and players that are actually scum. It's not my fault that there is a case against you that isn't a load of crap and that you called me scummy. On February 08 2012 01:31 Bill Murray wrote: layabout, you put me as a "poor lynch target" - have i ever received a vote this game? No but people had said that they were fine lynching you. Your behaviour this game does not make you more likely to be scum than anyone else hence you are a "poor lynch target". | ||
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or even Katina or Adam4167 or Tyran or ico? there are many players that are lurking to varying degrees, Why is Hiro scummy? his posts from game start: + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2012 08:16 hiro protagonist wrote: /confirm On February 06 2012 15:59 hiro protagonist wrote: no. also: thats why. On February 06 2012 16:04 hiro protagonist wrote: Also I would like to reiterate what Dr. H said, dont talk about batman/catwoman for now. It only distracts us from scumhunting. What are you seeing here that i am not? | ||
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On February 08 2012 02:08 Toadesstern wrote: -paraphrased- Kill Hiro because of: Meta in One game How can that which does not play, play badly? | ||
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Hit that? ![[image loading]](http://mail.is/palmar/derp.jpg) Poll: Do you want to hit that? Define "hit that" (3) Yes (1) No (0) Since he often trolls day1 and is potentially a valuable town asset likely to die n1or n2, no (0) 4 total votes Your vote: Do you want to hit that? (Vote): Yes If it's a lurker you want to lynch Tyrran might be a good choice. | ||
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