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Mafia are going to find mafia based on reads rather then hints I would think. And above those, broadcasts are going to give them an edge. Seems kinda pointless. I would be curious as to what GGQ and jackal would know to look out for in the first game, but jackal was LOL, and GGQ for all intent and purpose was a townie. | ||
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I do agree with meapak, that one glaring middle section in radfield's post is suspicious, I think it's more of him over-emphasizing his point to a degree that he actual talks about the exact strat he is trying to prevent. I think the major offender is this: "We need to ensure this does not happen. Therefore I propose that NO ONE call anyone else town. Players are either scummy, very scummy, definitely scum, OR not scum. That is all. If you think someone is almost for sure town, you still just have to call them 'not scum'." It makes the whole warning completely void when you push that, rather then simply not discussing your town reads. | ||
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On January 26 2012 18:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: "I've always been a fan of not saying who I think is town, and just saying who I think is scum. I think that's what radfield is trying to say." I agree with this Bum, and I think most people here are good enough players that they would agree as well. However it's the way Radfield phrases it that is the problem, he goes so counter to what he later states it's almost comical. He is basically directing red roles through this post. I mean that entire red section could have been omitted or reworded but the way it was written leaves a very scummy feel throughout the post which only gets worse when he flat out contradicts himself. Back to what you said Bum, I'm never trying to find a townie. I'm always trying to find scum. If I happen to feel someone is acting protown that's great, one less person for me to worry about. However unless it's a mayor election (not present here) I really don't see a need to specifcally call someone out for playing protown. This doesn't preclude agreeing with people, it just means I don't need to go make lists of people I think are town. There I just said what Radfield tried to say in like a fifth of the space and none of the scum directions. He did seem to go out of his way to phrase it awfully. I'll sleep on it. | ||
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On January 27 2012 02:09 Radfield wrote: I didn't vote him for several reasons, mostly because I think voting early and often hurts ones credibility. However, I DO think Bum is a good lynch so far. Lets break it down: * He made a post referencing that he thinks there are 5 mafia members. As I pointed out, this is one way for mafia to communicate. However, players do this all the time at the start of games with hidden mafia counts, so it is hardly damning. If you're looking for hidden breadcrumbs, this one jumps right out at you. Read that line, out of context it actually says "I could hint that I'm scum" He also calls my suggestions pointless, even though it seem he understands them. He also makes a random sentance about wanting Jackal/GGQ's advice while simultaneously mentioning that the advice would be pretty worthless. These are all pretty minor things, but added up they constitute a slight case. Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba. And your suggestions would be cool if you didn't fuck them up with the "not scum" BS. Yes, we all get town reads, but the point here is to not post them in the thread. I am suspicious of you not immediately using that. I feel like you are doing what you said people were doing with cwave, except with me. I don't plan on being lynched | ||
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On January 27 2012 07:41 vaderseven wrote: Whoa this post... Why are you leaning 5 and town having some blues. Explain the logic behind this post. Last sleeper cell it was 16 players and 5 scum, with 3(?) town power roles. I was speculating it would be in that field. But I'm not allowed to talk about it anymore  | ||
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(from last game) CELL LEADER: Your entire life has been devoted to running your tiny cell of agents. The time has come to put them into action. You know the names of all other Agents. You always returns "Insufficient Information for Analysis" to investigations. Each night, you will recieve a list of agents and their votes. In the event of a TIE in voting, or if ALL nominations are agents, you may cast tiebreaking vote. In the event of death, flips Cell Leader and a new Cell Leader is chosen by RNG between remaining Agents. You may send a message consisting of 5 words or 20 characters to any agent at dawn and dusk of each day. Submit it like a normal action. The message can't contain the name of any player. The message is PM'd to both myself and chaoser. We will send it to the player you specify. Cute attempts to get around the "No Names" rule or the word/char limit will result in the message being "lost". Feel free to crumb, just don't put the name (or any form of the name) in there. If all agents are dead, you may choose each kill. iGrok didn't put this in the OP so it is very possible this role isn't in the game, or at least it functions very differently. | ||
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Nice try to everyone stuffing their vote on her, but she should not be the lynch. I'd definitely lynch radfield over her. I don't have a proper read on navillus or cwave, but I have no problem lynching them. Meapak also fits the lurker bill, buts here's the thing. If Meapak is scum, he was doing one of a few things with his posts. A) He picked out a quick pro-town read on me, and tried to sabotage my cred or get me lynched(ballsy and unlikely). B) Picked out a scum read on me and tried to bus me to gain town cred(unlikely). C) Ignored my potential alignment and just went all out in an effort to build scum-hunting effort credentials(likely). Or alternatively he is town and saw what he thought was a player trying to communicate with his scum buddies(most likely) And how is this not a direct contradiction of what you said not to do. You are essentially calling him town here. One strike too many. ##Vote: Radfield | ||
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Also... there is only one way to deal with lurkers. ![[image loading]](http://i.qkme.me/35si8p.jpg) | ||
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Didn't realize how close I came to actually getting lynched. | ||
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On January 28 2012 21:38 Refallen wrote: Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing... but he breadcrumbs I don't see anyway I could hint that I'm scum without townies seeing it, or that townies could just fake? here too, Then when radfield calls him out on it, Well maybe it is a hidden breadcrumb for me not to get shot, and I'm not scum? Your move kaiba. What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't make this blatant a breadcrumb that can be misinterpretted so easily. The second post is a joke. Keep digging in your sandbox, and I'll give you actual methods of catching scum in the mean-time. If scum shoot me for whatever reason, you don't go searching radfield's voters for scum, or at least not the early ones. Radfield was far from a clear town, so I think most scum would be too pussy to act on lynching him until later. Look at who you think is likely townie, and see if anyone voted for them. Analyze that person, and try to catch backwards logic. If you do, chances are they are scum trying to make a safe vote. That's all I have for now, but I'll be active in the beginning of the day later. End of night happens right as I leave work, so I can't really catch new developments | ||
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Ok, so right off the bat, he buddies Meapak in trying to lynch Radfield, by claiming that he's breadcrumbing... but he breadcrumbs here too, Then when radfield calls him out on it, What is this? He actually claims that he is breadcrumbing, and the reason for that is so that he "dosen't get shot"? Does this not scream I AM SLEEPER AGENT DON'T SHOOT ME to you? It does for me. I wouldn't make this blatant a breadcrumb that can be misinterpretted so easily. The second post is a joke. Keep digging in your sandbox, and I'll give you actual methods of catching scum in the mean-time. If scum shoot me for whatever reason, you don't go searching radfield's voters for scum, or at least not the early ones. Radfield was far from a clear town, so I think most scum would be too pussy to act on lynching him until later. Look at who you think is likely townie, and see if anyone voted for them. Analyze that person, and try to catch backwards logic. If you do, chances are they are scum trying to make a safe vote. That's all I have for now, but I'll be active in the beginning of the day later. End of night happens right as I leave work, so I can't really catch new developments | ||
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On January 29 2012 09:40 Lanaia wrote: I guess I sort of expected that. Didn't think he was scum. People I'd like to lynch today: Bum Refallen Maybe Jackal. I'll be placing my vote on bum as he's my biggest scumread right now. How on earth is it radfield's fault he was lynched? No need to write out people I don't want to lynch. Blazinghand, who do you most want to lynch today and why? Also where's igrok I want an updated player list. I know for a fact now that at least two townies thought radfield was scum. Why don't you ask wiggles? I think he might be town, no? Cwave seems like he is posting intentionally stupid at first, and then wiggles calls him out for dropping into the crowd, and then wiggles dies. Sleeper Cell doesn't have nightkill wifom, so cwave sending wiggles as his hit is a reasonalbe thing for him to do. We know for a fact mafia did not kill wiggles to leave a false trail, so simple solution is best solution. | ||
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On January 29 2012 10:00 Lanaia wrote: You said it was radfield's fault he got lynched, did you not? That part rubbed me the wrong way. bum, who do YOU want to lynch most today? Oh, I forgot about CWave. Could do for lynching him as well. It was, he fucking hinted at inception agent but it went so far against the gist of what he was hiding it in, it seemed like he threw trash together to make a good post. Look at meapak's first post. On January 26 2012 16:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Lol wow radfield, I’m actually shocked you slipped so bad in your first post. Your massive post was a massive warning to mafia and so hypocritical and here’s why. LOLOL couldn’t you have hidden it better? For those who don’t see it, paragraph in red is basically a massive warning to fellow scum. Of course a scum post wouldn’t be complete without an obvious contradiction and rad doesn’t disappoint with his little ending bit about not giving advice to mafia. Let’s start the day off right ##Vote: Radfield I think the section we both saw as scummy, was the section radfield put the most effort into making. Therefore he may not have noticed how bad it looked when he said the second red paragraph. Also hence why I was sure radfield was scum when he basically called MZ town after posting that. It's nice to see you being aggressive lanaia. I want to lynch cwave. | ||
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