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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 24 2012 08:37 GMT
#78
I see a nice 15th place there... empty.....

/in if there is still room!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 09:03 GMT
#185
/confirm and hi!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 12:56 GMT
#192
Although Radfield's his posts screams scum i agree on the point that someone who get's a label town from us all is just very likely to get votes from the scumteam. We all have to prevent that, more so early on. Later on, we hopefully get some reads from our DT on scum.

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 14:59 GMT
#200
No Radfield, i don't agree with your entire post and your bad wording which makes you seem like a piece of scum trying to hard.
That doesn't mean i don't agree with one of the points you raised(about outing our confirmed town).
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 15:00 GMT
#201
On January 26 2012 23:37 Radfield wrote:

Almost Certainly Town
X
Y
Z

Likely Town
A
B
C

Leaning Town
1
2
3

Null
H-P

Scummy
Fee
Fie
Foe
Fum



Did you really just post this.... Like seriously?!?!?!

##VOTE: Radfield
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 15:05 GMT
#202
You can't just say " people shouldnt make lists like these" and then provide scum with one for free -.-.

BAD!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 15:39 GMT
#208
On January 27 2012 00:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 00:00 Cwave wrote:
On January 26 2012 23:37 Radfield wrote:

Almost Certainly Town
X
Y
Z

Likely Town
A
B
C

Leaning Town
1
2
3

Null
H-P

Scummy
Fee
Fie
Foe
Fum



Did you really just post this.... Like seriously?!?!?!

##VOTE: Radfield

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 00:05 Cwave wrote:
You can't just say " people shouldnt make lists like these" and then provide scum with one for free -.-.

BAD!



Are you kidding me? Did you read his list? Those aren't actual people names, dude.



Well no ofcourse they are not? Its a ranking system. Not a list with people's names.

But they give scum a possible very easy way to communicate. They can just send(certainly night 1) names of people who they think are town AND give a rank to it. Combined, they make it bloody easy to off some people. Grats on making selecting targets easy for them.




I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 15:43 GMT
#209
SLEEPER AGENT:
As a young child, you were constantly reminded of your mission. Every day, you would wake up and stare down the picture on your bedside table: your target, President Qatol. You moved to his hometown and were preparing to kill him, when ANOTHER Sleeper Cell did it for you! You were confused about what to do next, so you moved to New York, only to recieve instructions about your new target, Hot_Bid! You know there are redacted other Cell Members. You do not know any of the other Cell member's identities. Each night, you will leave a message naming the 2 players you believe should be killed in a dead drop (mine and GreYMist's pm inbox). The player with the most votes will be killed. If there is a tie, I will RNG the result. You may broadcast a message of redacted words/characters each cycle (so dawn and dusk) by PMing your message to myself and GreYMist. You receive all Broadcasts.

5 word max.
Example
Cwave A Blazinghand 2 Penis

Am i really the only one who sees a problem in this and that he did that on purpose?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 16:13 GMT
#218
On January 27 2012 01:06 Lanaia wrote:
Why would they waste a word by saying penis.

How do you even know if they only have 5 words? It says redacted words in the OP. Why do you think it's only five words?


I don't know for sure as it's an assumption based on the first sleeper cell game.
Or do you think with this setup that scum will be allowed to write long stories to eachother?

On January 25 2012 00:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:07 Zephirdd wrote:
Okay...

Is there any way a non-scum player can see the Sleeper Agent's broadcasts? I assume the Inception Agent can, under certain conditions, but are there more?
Also, for the players:
I haven't seen GGQ, Hesmyrr nor Navillus playing. Obviously that's because I'm a redacted, but can someone link a game of them? :D

Check my profile. Also, re-stating the obvious since I do not want to be unknowingly mistaken:
So how this work is, sleeper agent A, B, C all write messages which are received by all of these three. Moreover, we have no assurance the messages being sent need to meet the requirement of the first game:
You may send a message consisting of 5 words or 20 characters to any agent at dawn and dusk of each day. Submit it like a normal action. The message can't contain the name of any player.

Also, could you affirm that all investigative role on this setup is sane? Will role such as Godfather/Traitor work on the role-cop should they exist?

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 16:19 GMT
#220
On January 27 2012 01:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh snap did cwave scumslip hard right there or what


Make a point instead of posting useless crap like this and don't spam one-liners and get yourself in trouble again like the previous games you played.

What on earth did i do wrong for finding that list and the actions of Radfield scummy as fuck?

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 16:25 GMT
#221
On January 27 2012 01:04 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 00:00 Cwave wrote:
On January 26 2012 23:37 Radfield wrote:

Almost Certainly Town
X
Y
Z

Likely Town
A
B
C

Leaning Town
1
2
3

Null
H-P

Scummy
Fee
Fie
Foe
Fum



Did you really just post this.... Like seriously?!?!?!

##VOTE: Radfield

I am ok with policy lynching this VI


Name calling AND playing bad start day1.
Nice redFF, way to be usefull!

How about you actually post something of content. Do you think my opinion on the list being used as a possible rank system for mafia is bad/wrong/whatever?

If so, why then?

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 16:35 GMT
#225
On January 27 2012 01:30 Zephirdd wrote:
I still want to know what the fuck a VI is...


I had to mafia wiki it...

Sometimes, successful lynching of the "Village Idiot" results in the mafia being able to kill two people that night.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 16:39 GMT
#228
On January 27 2012 01:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 01:19 Cwave wrote:
On January 27 2012 01:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh snap did cwave scumslip hard right there or what


Make a point instead of posting useless crap like this and don't spam one-liners and get yourself in trouble again like the previous games you played.

What on earth did i do wrong for finding that list and the actions of Radfield scummy as fuck?



I have never been in trouble for spamming. I am notorious however for enormous multi day tunnels on scum players.

The problem isn't finding Radfield scummy. The problem is that your reasons for soing so are bad and unsupported. You are creating an environment in which it is more difficult to hunt scum. Your criticisms of him are unsupported which is not like you, or honestly like any town player.


That something is unsupported is by no means a reason to drop my opinion on it and the fact i find it a scum move.
If its debunked or im convinced it is a bad idea i can surely drop the matter but noone has done so far.

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 26 2012 17:12 GMT
#236
On January 27 2012 02:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh i just don't particularly recall cwave being a flaming moron.
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and call him out for being scum. The fact that he even now has not appripriately addressed my takedown of his critique does lend some credence to the moron theory but he's probably just scum trying to dodge.


Was done with work and biking home. Don't mistake not instant replying with dodging please!

My critique is that Radfield gave a tool for scum to communicate. One of the things our town has on scum is that they don't know who is scum and who is town. For them, there is a chance that they kill of one of their own. By giving them such a ranking list, i feel that it makes it a whole lot easier to coordinate a murder for them.

Your takedown is "your ideas are not supported" aka "the list Radfield made isn't scummy"?
I feel i'm right on this.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 27 2012 08:56 GMT
#282
On January 27 2012 16:21 Lanaia wrote:
I really have no idea who I think I should vote for at this point. I will be back in the morning to vote. I will be here less than I'd hope tomorrow because school, staff meeting, and work.

I kinda wanna just vote Cwave.


You "kinda" wanna vote for me but just before you really have no idea who to vote for?
I would kinda wanna ask you to start being usefull.

Grace me atleast with reasoning other then just sheeping onto me. This makes you look bad and red.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 27 2012 09:38 GMT
#283
On January 27 2012 06:47 vaderseven wrote:
I think cwave isnt a weak town player. With things like JUMPING on radfield for giving scum a rating system (seriously it is cwave who clearly made this a ratinf system...) and saying that scum have 5 words when the rules make it obv that it is an unkoen amount ANNNNNNND his attempt to abuse the intent of calling him a VI....

There is a difference between bad town and scummy.

He is by far the best lynch canidate thus far.


I will try and adress the concerns you have for me.

About the 5 word statement. I pulled if from the previous game and the post
On January 25 2012 00:30 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 23:07 Zephirdd wrote:
Okay...

Is there any way a non-scum player can see the Sleeper Agent's broadcasts? I assume the Inception Agent can, under certain conditions, but are there more?
Also, for the players:
I haven't seen GGQ, Hesmyrr nor Navillus playing. Obviously that's because I'm a redacted, but can someone link a game of them? :D

Check my profile. Also, re-stating the obvious since I do not want to be unknowingly mistaken:
So how this work is, sleeper agent A, B, C all write messages which are received by all of these three. Moreover, we have no assurance the messages being sent need to meet the requirement of the first game:
You may send a message consisting of 5 words or 20 characters to any agent at dawn and dusk of each day. Submit it like a normal action. The message can't contain the name of any player.

Also, could you affirm that all investigative role on this setup is sane? Will role such as Godfather/Traitor work on the role-cop should they exist?


I don't see how reusing that information is a scumslip or in anyway bad for town. I understand there is a possibility this game has different rules for this but i still assume there is some form of limitation on the ammount scum can send to eachother, just like the previous game.

About the VI, i asked about it on IRC where Palmar resides(game buddy from when Azeroth was fresh), he responded with "village idiot" after which i google'd it and that site came up first.
So don't just say
ANNNNNNND his attempt to abuse the intent of calling him a VI....

when this is just not true. I had not seen the term VI being used before so i didn't know the context of it and had to google it.

As for the rating system. I still think it's a bad post with that list Radfield made. People actually thought that i read that list as a summation of players in the game. Hence, they didn't think i was reading carefully. I was and still am so all the posts following with " Lol cwave you crazy, are you even reading" hold no ground.

Disagree with me if you will on the list being good/bad for our town but don't just state im a good lynch target because i post about it.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 28 2012 15:59 GMT
#456
Ahhh man..... Fail that radfield was our Leo....
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 28 2012 22:00 GMT
#466
On January 29 2012 05:39 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:59 Cwave wrote:
Ahhh man..... Fail that radfield was our Leo....

you cunt


Relax a bit, boy.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 29 2012 21:24 GMT
#533
On January 30 2012 03:56 redFF wrote:
Radfield(6): Meapak_Ziphh, Cwave, Jackal58, Bumatlarge, Mr. Wiggles, Blazinghand

Navillus (1): RedFF

Bumatlarge (5): Radfield, Lanaia, Navillus, GGQ, Hesmyrr

Lanaia (2): Zephridd, Vaderseven


Today, we are going to sheep confirmed town radfield and lynch bum.

The radfield wagon was so scummy and terrible, I have no idea wtf wiggles was doing.

Cwave and Blazinghand, while both on the radfield wagon, are new and terrible. Them being on that wagon is null at the moment and we can look at other stuff once we kill the good players on the shitty wagon.


Is redFF always this level of angry?
I started the bloody wagon cause i thought the list Radfield provided was a scum move. So don't state that i joined in on it if you want to make an argument.
Now you want to kill(not lynch) the entire voting list of Radfield starting with the veteran players?

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 30 2012 09:37 GMT
#568
On January 30 2012 15:59 Lanaia wrote:
I'd really prefer we drop the whole how many PRs we have. We really don't need to out anyone. We've already lost one PR.

I'm only willing to switch my vote to Cwave or refallen today.
Wanna hear more from Scamp, GGQ and refallen.


So Lanaia, in your filter you poke a few people for some questions, talk about reallife and that's about it. No where do you actually post your opinion or take a stand on anything.

You also sway all over the place as for who to vote

On January 27 2012 16:21 Lanaia wrote:
I really have no idea who I think I should vote for at this point. I will be back in the morning to vote. I will be here less than I'd hope tomorrow because school, staff meeting, and work.

I kinda wanna just vote Cwave.


Reallife + kinda wanna vote without any reasoning

On January 29 2012 09:40 Lanaia wrote:

People I'd like to lynch today:
Bum
Refallen
Maybe Jackal.
.


No reasoning.

This also caught my attention concerning Blazinghand

On January 29 2012 10:47 Lanaia wrote:
We will not lynch him. Ever. Well, I won't but I will actively fight against it.
had pegged him as scum but things change.


Please give me argumentation or something usefull as to WHY you come to this conclusion. Why did you have him down as scum before and what did he do to make you change to the point where you would fight for him?


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