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i like liar game and they have tons of elections in there | ||
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Oh Sheth is in this game? #Vote Liquid`Sheth for Mayor! Nice to see some familiar faces from XLVIII | ||
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GreyMist and prplhz have ran before but I don't find prplhz as a particularly good player judging from his past performance in the last game - a lot of people had him on scum list. GreyMist is good so if he decides to run I see him as the dark horse but his activity seems questionable. I probably won't be running but I hope other candidates do as I don't really want to see a Radfield/Arctocod office as Palmar's performance in XLVIII was really underwhelming I think out of Radfields 4 statements We're all three of us good players We're all good at scum hunting We all consistently get shot by mafia Night 1 and 2. We are unlikely both mafia, and have decent reads on each other if one of us is scum. The first 3 are true, especially the 3rd statement. Veterans who have known to be good always have a big target on their back so I would say its probably a necessity to have at least 1 of them in office (disregarding alignment for now). I think that is a risk we will have to take as town. The last statement however makes me uneasy. Albeit mathematically it is true that you are both unlikely mafia; having you both in office as scum would be devastating. And the fact that Radfield has suggested/linked to Arctocod so early adds to the uneasiness. Would like to hear from (them) first. | ||
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Nothing scummy about their posts so far - although as they are vets its unlikely they'll have any slips this early if they were scum. Pretty sure if they don't get elected at least one of them won't make it through the night and the probability of them dying early as town is higher than them being scum. I agree on hydras tagging their own posts I agree on Radfield's lynching a semi-active player. A hydra would be nice too...6th sense says one of the hydras are scum I agree on whoever uses a pardon is a huge scum tell I am wondering whether the elected mayor should reveal who their hidden vote is on to be absolutely transparent - though I would understand it giving scum advantage to know what the voting picture is and bus on someone last second | ||
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And he can decide ties So in essence in some cases its like having 3 votes (in close voting races) so the mayor is a really really strong role compared to Pardoner. Get Radfield to Mayor and Arc or whoever to Pardoner | ||
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On December 13 2011 00:11 GiygaS wrote: I have very little time, so I can only write a few sentences. So how the hell does a potential 3 votes beat the ability to crush all votes? It means he can save 2 scummates from being lynched! Any pardoner who uses a pardon is to be auto-lynched the next day No exceptions | ||
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On December 13 2011 00:18 prplhz wrote: @zeks What changed your mind? You didn't want to vote Arctocod at first because you didn't think Palmar was that good a scum hunter, did he suddenly get better or something? I corrected myself after realizing I only had one vote so I voted Radfield Palmar is a decent scum hunter I never said he wasn't but his performance in XLVIII was underwhelming after he folded mid game However its in my interest to keep Arctocod alive at least for day 1 because of their track record (considering the fact syllo is the other half) | ||
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On December 13 2011 01:32 risk.nuke wrote: Exception 1. mass last minute vote switch. Questionable Exception 2. Everyone agrees on lynching someone, then occurs a last hour voteswitch when some keyplayers are unavailable. Both your points are practically the same It will be much harder for scum to pull off that kind of stunt like we did last game on Palmar Much less people this game and mayor decides ties and has hidden 2nd vote (assuming our mayor is town) I still want to stick with the rule where there are to be no pardons used this entire game (barring any weird elections henceforth) As for lynch candidate tonight - I had suggested early to lynch a hydra...actually a mayor candidate would work too since scum almost ALWAYS has a mayor candidate whether it be a serious bid or not | ||
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On December 13 2011 03:25 prplhz wrote: I'll be voting either Radfield or Arctocod, using my vote to put as many of them in office as I can. @zeks Hey, you said that you'd like to lynch a hydra or a mayor candidate, so you want to lynch either Radfield, Arctocod, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA or TotallyNotTwoPeople? Hydras because your sixth sense tells you that one of these are scum and mayor candidates because you think that scum has at least one candidate running? Am I understanding this right? Sure why not if theres a decent case on them wouldn't be a bad choice compared to a lurker Im talking about mayor candidates outside the elected ones obviously Why are you voting Radfield/Arc state your reasoning sir | ||
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On December 13 2011 05:34 risk.nuke wrote: any kind of "those present should mutualy decide if to use pardon" is idiocy and a setup like that would only favor the mafia over town. The pardoner will have to decide himself if he is going to use it or not, and if he pardons it's at his own risk. Forbidding it is idiocy but we should warn him that by using the abillity chances are high we'll kill him. amen inserting exceptions creates loopholes that a scum pardoner can use to get out of harms way. It is imperative that there are no exceptions @Giygas not sure where you're getting at that i'm feeling threatened. I am posting without fear. Funny how you think I'm the most threatened when Deus has by far been the most defensive from risk-nuke's FoS (which I think was pretty baseless from that one comment). So I point at a group of players who I may think is scum (from my sixth sense). Never thought it would be taken that seriously. For every nickel I get for every FoS or baseless accusation I've seen in past games I'd have plenty of nickels. Not to mention the people who are yelling around calling people stupid. If anything GiygaS your insistence on having exceptions for the no-pardon rule is scummy as you're essentially creating a failsafe plan for a scum pardoner who can use what you just said as reasoning for pardoning his scum buddy As good as the vets have proven to be in past games don't just trust them for the sake of their names; look at how they are playing this game. Don't give them (too) much credit | ||
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I would also argue Palmar is a harder read than Radfield | ||
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On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote: I'm going to be voting Radfield for mayor/pardoner. He would be good to have in either role, and now that he's posted some more I'm pretty confident that he's legit. If anyone hasn't looked at the election voting thread yet, it's literally all rad/arc, so it looks like our candidates are decided unless anyone has some major objections. I'm not going to lie, I generally don't really have any clue what's going on day 1, and this game is no exception. I like prpl and Deus' posting. People have called out zeks a few times, and if you filter his posts it's clearly not without reason-- he went from not wanting a rad/arc office to, twelve hours later, voting for both of them. When questioned about it, he sidesteps the issue entirely. Trying to lay low like that after silently making such a big swing in his stance isn't something I'm comfortable seeing, so I'm throwing my lynch vote on him now. I want to see this guy under more pressure! Initially I didnt want Rad + Arc because of the potential for bad things and how Rad had linked themselves before Arc made a post but I was always down for Rad from the get go Jeez am I not allowed to change my mind through the course of the game? As of RIGHT NOW I don't care who's pardoner as long as its a vet and Rad gets mayor How have I been laying low? I've answered all if not most of the questions directed at me and thrown my head out there. However you have posted next to nothing and one of your posts was Woo! Alright, I'm not going to be running for mayor or pardoner or anything. I'm going to be voting for one of the hydras, in all likelihood-- from my experience, multi-person players (especially with experienced, devoted mafia players behind them) can absolutely wreck games like this. Having a pro-town hydra behind a bodyguard should be town's goal for today, in my opinion. Could we start discussing in advance how the pardoner should be used? I remember the pardoner being a pretty controversial role in the last game I played with one, so it'd be good if we could get people talking about how he should behave *before* we elect one. It seems to me that having a pardoner that can pardon *twice* is ridiculously powerful, and could probably win scum the game outright if a red got that spot. If anything, the person who gets pardoner needs to propose and discuss their actions in advance-- any sort of surprise pardoning of a lynch candidate needs to result in an immediate lynch of the pardoner. You said you were voting for one of the hydras and now you're voting Radfield. This is the same crap you're accusing me for. You come out of the wallcracks to throw a 2nd vote on me to get the wagon rolling after GiygaS voted for me. Suspicious | ||
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All I've seen you do is call people stupid/retard and pointing out how you think people are playing bad yet what have you done that is constructive? You keep saying risk.nuke FoSed you for no reason but its clearly here if you read I never said there is something wrong with it either, If I would had it would had been very clear because I would had provided arguments, ergo you can conclude I did never in any way say there is something wrong with it. I merely didn't want words put in my mouth. Deus. what you said was an inch from basicly twisting that into claiming I said something is wrong with Radfields plan. FoS. Now whether it is a good reason remains to be seen but he CLEARLY provided a reason Over half your posts all you do is say is this idea is stupid, this guy is stupid, this guy plays horrible Nevermind not discussion the election which is pretty set. We still got a lynch to do and you're already talking about night actions calling for medic proc? Fast forward much? The only reason you'd deserve a medic proc is for your other half | ||
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inb4 the "i'm sidestepping and laying low and ducking arguments" when i don't post for the next 12 hours or so | ||
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On December 13 2011 13:23 GreYMisT wrote: Building off Eii's accusations, here you say that either zeks is stupid or mafia, then you nonchalantly say that we should lynch him because he is the all we have at the moment in the next post. To me this doesnt look like an accusation or pressure, to me this looks like someone jumping on an easy wagon. To add to this I don't even know if MrZentor knows whats going on in this game 1. "Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one" - Posting random BS to stay barely active and won't be called out for lurker 2. "Kill the hydra" - There are multiple hydras dude? 3. "Having the hydra only helps town" - Yeah as if hydra can't be scum 4. "dangerous for the town" - When did I ever say that ? Stop sticking words in my mouth Don't call people stupid or scum when you're the one exhibiting those qualities. Easy vote today And in addition right after MrZentor posts his terrible case on me and GreyMist logically figures that out - within the next 2 hours the 2 votes on me are dropped. Suspicious. Especially GiygaS who's tone in his posting has varied much in this game - I mean how do you get a null read from MrZentor seriously? | ||
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On December 13 2011 17:12 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Having only two real candidates for mayor/pardoner makes me uneasy, but I even more dislike the half-assed mayoral campaign that promises activity and follows it up by being inactive. Can any player who has played with them (Curu/Erandorr) before give some insight as to how active they generally are as town versus scum? And to Curu/Erandorr, any particular reason for the lack of activity? And why did you run for mayor and then put no effort into it? Radfield / Arc get the benefit of the doubt for now..unfortunately thats how it works in TL Mafia Erandorr was scum last game he laid low and posted fluff basically - nothing of substance...just along for the ride. Not sure how he plays as town Last game there were actually plenty of scum who ran for mayor early and half-assed it namely GreyMist, prplhz, and redFF Nothing against them this game but just saying thats what happened last game and it happens in many games so its not totally farfetched for you to find half-assed mayoral campaigns fishy | ||
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On December 14 2011 00:20 Cwave wrote: I miss how that is unfortunate? That they are running for mayor or that they get the benefit of the doubt because they have more fluff then the other candidates and what is bad about that? I find it unfortunate that our identities are carried on from previous games because of our userID and that will never leave us until we have a new ID which is why we see certain vets smurf from time to time Having said that I never meant to imply Rad/Arc being front runners right now isn't deserving if thats what you mean | ||
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