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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 01:53 GMT
#1214
What was the arcotod withdrawal about? And is the night not over? Eiii was just killed by a instant vig or something?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 02:16 GMT
#1222
Ok... so assumng this is a shot shot deal, they used it to prevent a mayor pick (who didn't seem to have the lead) as opposed to a lynchproof pick? That seems like an easy end game for mafia, seems rather stupid unless it was done by town. I could understand a town person doing that rather then making someone lynch proof. I'd claim that if I were you.

Unless I read the rules wrong :X
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 03:10 GMT
#1237
The elections we have each day after the first are to decide who will be lynchproof the day after correct? I don't see why scum wouldn't keep that power for later. Even if it was to gain town cred for this reason, they still would have claimed it. Claim now, and I think we'll have a solid candidate to make lynchproof
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 04:18 GMT
#1263
I'll apply for surgeon general. There is no reason to give this to scum, so we can assure ourselves at least one town medic with me in charge. I think there is some risk here applying for the position, since the secretary is a dangerous role for scumt o get into.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 05:02 GMT
#1271
On December 15 2011 13:30 GreYMisT wrote:
he is the replacement for dropbear.

Bum the reason we are going for Giygas and arct is that we are more sure than really any other person that they are town, due to the events that transpired around them.


Hmm ok, but I think we should be a bit aggressive with the second voting spot. It's a public rolecop check, so let's use it as such. It seems better to have someone we can deduce as mafia and not be able to lyncht the next day, rather then out a townie to prevent something that would never happen anyway. One of the two as surgeon general sounds superduper.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 07:18 GMT
#1284
Didn't I replace erandor?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 07:19 GMT
#1285
Oh no thats the other game, I replaced drobear. IGNORE ME!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 16 2011 03:29 GMT
#1479
I keep forgetting what games I playing lol, are we really just going double down on people we are sure are townies? Is Gigyas and arcotod OK with having their roles revealed? I don't know who they are, but I'm trusting rad on this one, since he's probably town. Whole election thing seems pretty distracting in the end, the lynch is what really matters.

May major beef is with refallen and eventrees. Putting alot of effort into who voted for who as mayor is very suspect, and making lists off it even more so. Most mayoral games I play in, mafia have a candidate and they try very hard not to push him, or they don't have one at all and their votes are so scattered that any list-watchers become detrimental to discussion. I suggest re-focusing attention to lynch lists, unless you can connect better dots.

On December 15 2011 13:48 evantrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 12:46 Refallen wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:22 zeks wrote:
DTs please review the lists for Spaackle lynch and ProfessorBA election vote


The idea that the list of those who had voted for ProfBA to be pardoner has to have some mafia in it is something I've seen more than one person espousing in the thread so I just want to say that I completely disagree with this line of thinking right now.

Firstly, as ProfBA has pointed out, he was the natural choice of pardoner after palmar/syllo votes were nulled. And he was even there at that time to immediately step up and say "I am the natural choice," something that I am sure many people agreed with. There is simply no reason for mafia to need to vote ProfBA to get him to office (note that I'm not actually saying that ProfBA is scum/town or anything, but just illustrating the fact that the idea that scum votes must be on ProfBA is false, since even if he was scum, the mafia didn't need to vote for him because of the lack of another viable candidate as well as ProfBA actively going for the pardoner role.) So no, if anything I think the Radfield list is more likely to contain scum.

What do you guys think?
kind of doubt either list will be particularly helpful.
given most of the ProfBA list is dead or GiygaS.
ProfessorBadass (7): GreYMisT, xsksc, prplhz, GiygaS, -GiygaS, GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, Radfield
xsksc, prplh, Eiii dead
that leaves
ProfessorBadass (3): GreYMisT, Refallen, Radfield

can't say I would be surprised if one of them was scum but have don't have any arguments for people being scum period yet and the Radfield list is a good bit longer.

Radfield (12): risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Spaackle, Comprissent, Eiii, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, DropBear, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, -Eiii
Spaackle, lynched

Radfield (11): risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Comprissent, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, DropBear, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA,

and the others.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA (1): TotallyNotTwoPeople
TotallyNotTwoPeople (1): evantrees
prplhz (1): Arctocod
Arctocod (2); MrZentor ,nyczbrandon (the annoying one to get)


This kinda talk draws scum like magnets. I only see dead blues, and that will never tell anything about the candidates or the other people in the list. Refallen much more so then evantrees as he is provoking a lot more time from others ton the matter. I'll be looking into those two and possibly others I see who manage to scrap by with these lame posts.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#1481
Yeah I'm pretty on par with what viscera just said. Reading Jitsu's analysis is basically all you can take out of refallen's posts as scummy. Beyond that, I really don't see much. Evantree on the otherhand is a pretty background poster (May not be his fault). The more I read evantrees filter the bigger my feeling. He's defintely trying very hard to look like he is contributing.

Evantree should be our lynch today. Textbook scum.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 16 2011 03:44 GMT
#1482
I don't really see al the hype around risk being scum. He's been actively hunting scum since the game started it seems, and a lot of people are giving him shit for doing so. Looks like a load of bandwagon shite to me. Who the hell is managin this shit. I DEMAND AN AUDIENCE WITH THE RADFIELD!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#1485
On December 16 2011 12:47 Refallen wrote:
I'm no scum and I'm quite confused why I've been labelled as scum. I know radfield suspected me because of my first post (says I'm starting with an apology??) and also because I asked clarifying questions, but that's just what I do. I had been lurking during the first day, but that was because I was busy, as I've already pointed out. Jitsu pointed out that I "conveniently appeared" 2 hours before voting time during the first day, but that was simply because of timezone differences. Next, I hopped on the bandwagon because 1. I didn't know it wasn't majority lynch so I was afraid of a no-lynch situation that I thought would not be good for town at all, and 2. Many people were bandwagonning him already so I decided to go along and vote Spaackle (admittedly not exactly towny but as I said, I really had no time).

Hope I've addressed your points.


It's looking a bit more fluky now, I think reading your filter really fleshes out your town play this game rather then bushwhacking you for inidivual posts.

I'll like at newyork VE. MASON ME BRO.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 16 2011 06:51 GMT
#1489
That's not a particularly strong defense. All I got out of that was you think you are a weak player, and because of that you think you might look like scum. Adding two and two together there doesn't do you any favors. I'll be keeping my vote on you. Contributing with your biggest suspects and thoughts on important matters would be your best bet at not getting lynched.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 17 2011 01:35 GMT
#1682
Professor badass is the pardoner, and the paparazzi thing means what? I'm missing the connection as to why eople are voting him. ardoner is a bad role for town, so that alone seems hunky dory to me, but if the proffessor was a generally scummy person, how did he get voted in?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 17 2011 01:43 GMT
#1683
Oh Curu is profbadass? Can we call people by the hydra name rather then an inidivual? It's unnecessarily confusing.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 17 2011 01:55 GMT
#1684
TRIPLE POST: Ok I think I understand now, ProfBA is acting incredibly strangely and he's got some deathwsh against palmar. He used an ability an purposefully silenced himself (or accientally) to do... what? This doesn't make much sense, but it would make much more sense if he defended his actions first. ArticCod seems to be all about pushing that lynch, and that would give some information regaring him and a few others. I'll give my vote as well, but the play here is seeming to be quite questionable.

##Vote ProffesorBadAss
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 17 2011 02:01 GMT
#1686
On December 17 2011 10:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
...and in other news, Bum continues posting from his phone neigh-illegibly.

Bum, what do you mean by "questionable"? Do you think he's scum or not?


I think he's causing a lot of confusion and not explaining himself. Why would a townie do that.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 17 2011 17:40 GMT
#1745
On December 17 2011 12:43 Radfield wrote:
OK, so we're obviously lynching curu. Silencer is a fairly scum-favoured tool, and using it on oneself is not particularly town. Not to mention, did anyone else read that convo between Erandorr and Curu and think it was a convo between two townies? I did not.

In other news, I am here to save the day! I have the power to enact a double lynch, and as such will be using it today. Curu is obviously locked in, so lets kickstart on who else we want to lynch


Bum, your posting is ridiculously terrible this game. I would guess half your posts so far I actually have no idea what your talking about. Have you filtered anyone? Have you read any post more than once? You just feel like your putting in about 10 minutes a day of effort. I realize you're homeless and everything, but don't the public libraries have computers you can use?

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On December 17 2011 08:00 Arctocod wrote:
On December 17 2011 07:52 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hey syllo, I got one question... Why didn't curu silence you at the beginning of the day... As scum i'd have done exactly that...
It's probably a one or twoshot ability but palmar already posted at night that he wants to lynch him...

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 14 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Not to mention it's fucking retarded from a setup point of view to have a real-time ability that can just be used after we're both gone to bed. We weren't even around to tell people who should be voted into office instead of us.

We're lynching ProfessorBadass tomorrow.


do you think he knew he wouldn't survive day3 for sure if he silences you day1 ?

I don't know, maybe it only lasts for X hours rather than the whole day? It's fairly pointless to speculate about his role because the way he used it and acted in the thread make him a pretty much confirmed scum.

Also, we definitely shouldn't consider MrZentor confirmed town or anything based on his ability


On December 14 2011 10:10 MrZentor wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's an ability that must be used before two hours before the election.
A little over 2 hours remain in the day.


There is no reason for Palmar to do this, and if he had, he would explain it.

Risk.nuke acts like Palmar was the one who resigned, something a mafia would do if it were a mafia role like the one I described.

Ehh wtf move palmar?


And he tries to get the role of pardoner.

Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.

Yeah, risk.nuke is mafia.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands.


It's a rather astute conclusion based on the information available at the time, especially coming from a new player. Eiii's flip pretty much confirmed that it really is the case for the scum version of the role. He also pushes risk nuke, who I believe mafia has considered to be the easy mislynch. While his role can be used in a pro town fashion as he did when I requested him to, it's also quite nice for scum.

I'll have to look into what people were saying about Zentor on day 1 though to see if him being scum makes sense

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12735074



This is actually remarkably damning. I haven't checked the time-stamps yet, but what possible reason would a townie have for speculating that it was an ability that needed to be used at least 2 hours before the day. I NEVER would have gotten close to assuming that. It was obvious it was scum driven, but 2 hours? That's incredibly specific and accurate.

MrZentor, when you are around please let me know. I have a few questions for you.


My posting is terrible? I found scum already, it's evantrees, I can pretty much guarantee it. (Filter him and look at his defense against VE's analysis). I think thats one more scum I've found then you have, unless you were the one spear-heading this PBA shin-dig.

If you are going to attack my posting, do so. Don't make some off-hand comment about it, that's insulting and non-commital. Now I see why PBA got voted in. Good day sir.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 18 2011 03:43 GMT
#1794
Oh dear lol
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