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On December 10 2011 01:28 kitaman27 wrote: Arctocod Mod-confirmed blue pre-game. | ||
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I imagine Palmar will write a real announcement post later, but Vote for us Sheth are you mafia? Innocent lives hang in the balance so this is important! | ||
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On December 12 2011 15:27 GiygaS wrote: I'm already tired of people saying something and not explaining why? You can't just say "Yo, my name's prof (insert funny pic here) vote for me." You can't just say "yo you are so mafia". Please tell people, especially us newbies WHY you need to be elected, or WHY he is mafia. @Dropbear: It's important we get these things done now so we don't A) Have a misinterpretation that bite's our asses down the line B) Have no regulation and let mafia run free in the elected positions. We should make a constitution for the elected officials Dropbear is suspicious based his very first post because he is making a ridiculous assumption about our activity in order to prevent us from being elected. The main point of me and palmar being hydras is that we know each others alignment and can thus freely discuss everything. It has nothing to do with activity and I can assure you we will be very active. Why would dropbear want to make that assumption? The townie motivation for it is quite weak as activity is something that will speak for itself. | ||
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On December 12 2011 15:33 Liquid`Sheth wrote: You mean "We are obviously running, Radfield. And I have to say I dont like you based on your very first post!" Or just like that? I'm pretty sure, but could be missreading. You're really flippant on this to just lets vote for me and Radfield "Vote for us" And the reason we should elect him is bescause then he can't run tomorrow is stupid. Anyone elected can't run the next day, it doesn't only apply to him. At least you say its not based on anything substantial. I actually slightly dislike your + radfields campaign now just from this post. The fact that you already think I'm mafia might somewhat be biasing my post. But I like people asking questions so no I'm not mafia. Are you mafia ? DrDoom will release the train and kill innocent people if you answer falsely! No, I actually do not think you are mafia based on your posts so far, to the contrary. It was merely something I wanted to say even before the game began. I did not fully explain my reasoning, but the point is that if radfield is mafia, him being elected does not rob us from the elected position for the duration of the whole game. Usually that is the case, so while you can argue that it's optimal to elect the "best" players into the office without even reading their posts, the fact that they will be stuck there for the remainder of the game is something that makes the optimal play a bit murkier. That is not to suggest that I'm advocating we should elect anyone without reading their posts, but that is my personal position on optimal play. I can discuss this further later today if necessary, but for now I've to catch the bus. | ||
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Bodyguards only protect players who were elected on that specific day? If a player is later elected again, will he lose his current elected role? | ||
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On December 12 2011 17:20 Refallen wrote: Hello! Second game here, let's have a good game. I have 2 questions for the veterans who are running; which I'll like them to answer. 1. How effectively can you scumhunt with the mayor/pardoner position as compared to as a regular townie? 2. If you were scum, how damaging would it be for town if you got the mayor/pardoner position, in your own opinion? Lastly, comparing these two questions, do you think the benefits of you being in the mayor/pardoner position if you were town outweigh the cons if it turns out you get the position as mafia? Sorry if I'm being incoherent, really tired right now. Those positions do not help us to scum hunt at all. The only real advantage is that we can not be killed on night 1. The pardoner role is potentially much more harmful in mafia hands as the only power mayor has is the anonymous extra vote. If we were mafia and elected to the position of the pardoner, it would eventually be quite clear that we aren't town aligned and thus us using the pardon would be almost inevitable. Pardoning a townie as mafia is just as harmful because then town has to decide whether the pardoned person is actually mafia or not. Now that I know that the role granted by the position isn't temporary, I think we will be running for pardoner. To answer the final question, yes, especially considering the probabilities involved. It's far more likely that we are town than mafia in any given game. | ||
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Citizens of Liquidia! Changes of Government have occurred frequently in history, and in the history of our people. It is certain, however, that never was a change of Government attended with such far-reaching results as it will today. The situation of the Town is desperate. We are called upon to take over the leadership of the Town at a moment when it does not seem to develop towards a great rise. We are given power in circumstances of the greatest conceivable pressure, the pressure of the knowledge that, by itself, everything is lost, and that, in the eyes of the noblest minds, this represents a last attempt, while in the eyes of evil-wishers it should condemn the Multi-Headed Beast to final failure. Unless the Town can be saved, by a miracle, the situation is bound to end in disaster. For during a period of 1day, events have moved downward without respite. On the other hand, this situation is only the result of the Mafia attacks: of the outcome of the murders, of our own internal, political, moral, and military collapse. For these reasons it is particularly important on a day like this to think back to the course of that misfortune. We humbly accept the responsibility that comes with leading town on a day like this. It is only through our actions that we will convince you of our alignment, but what we need is time. Giving us the seat will give us the time needed to both apply our considerable weight towards the war effort, and to disprove, once and for all, any attempts from the Mafia to discredit our honest intentions. The time has come my fellow Liquidians, to rally to a new banner. In unity lies strength; already many of the dissident factions have joined me. Out of the many, we shall forge an indivisible whole, capitulating only to a single throne. And from that throne, we shall watch over you! Vote Arctocod for Mayor | ||
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Hydras rock, I can just roleplay and let syllo actually scumhunt | ||
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On December 12 2011 22:13 risk.nuke wrote: Curu how can you say Palmars scumplay is obvious? Anyway, okey so basicly Radfield spoke up first on the vote veterans topic and none of the other had any disagreement. Of the involved players I feel most sure on Radfield and we should work together to ensure he becomes Pardoner. I'm not sure who else I want to elect. I don't want to see the Deus-ex or TnTp in office because I think they will be to tough to get a read on. I'm still onsure on The Professor and Arctocod but both I'm leaning against for office Also GiygaS is scummy bastard. This is rather confusing; why are you voting for radfield and why are you leaning against us for office? While both are perfectly reasonable stances to take, I'm curious as to why you reached this conclusion. You like Radfield's "vote for veterans plan", but apparently he is the only "veteran" who is acceptable to you? What in radfield's one post specificially made you sure of him? | ||
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I like that answer, despite disagreeing with the conclusion. The hydras will not be any harder to read than any other player in the game especially if they sign their posts. /syllogism | ||
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Sheth I don't see how the elected position allows you to affect the game in more ways than just voting given that we aren't going to use pardons and mayor only has one extra anonymous vote which will not play an important role until late game. It would be helpful if we could get past this election discussion today because all this talk of policies and candidates isn't particularly informative, especially with there being several rather obvious candidates. /syllogism | ||
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