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On December 03 2011 20:44 hyshes wrote: When is 8pm PST in KST? Just to know. Gonna play anyways /in | ||
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On December 04 2011 21:26 Radfield wrote: I'm not sure if I agree with that list. I could easily see 1 of those 6 being scum, not two. I would narrow it down further if you want to go that route: Radfield Palmar sandroba syllogism 1 of those 4 are scum. However, I think that kind of thinking is at complete odds to proper play. Towns can be stacked and still implode(Caller. BC and Fishball in Closed Casket), and mafia can be stacked and still get washed out(Radfield, iGrok, Kitaman, GGQ, DocH, Cyber_Cheese in LOTR). If hosts are smart they will start true RNGing the set-up and seeing how things turn out. So you guys don't exclude yourself from a 'possible scum list"? | ||
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On December 04 2011 22:06 syllogism wrote: Is this supposed to be a contribution? You can pretend everyone posted a list that didn't include their own name and then all those lists were assembled into one. Do you think not excluding your own name makes one more likely to be scum or not? More dishonest or more open? is this a contribution race orso? I found something odd, i asked it. And if it was a race, i don't like your "contribution either" On December 04 2011 22:29 syllogism wrote: Because I woke up and the thread was pretty much completely empty and dead? Unfortunately I do have to have material to work with and establish my innocence. What do you think my activity implies? establish your innocence? That is you main concern? Didn't pop it in your mind to make scumhunting your priority? | ||
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On December 05 2011 21:46 sandroba wrote: Okay so here it is: Syllogism: Unless he found a new love for being mafia exactly this game, I'm pretty surre he is town. He could have opted to post waaaay less day1 and still I wouldn't suspect him, because that's usually how he operates. Instead he is getting this thread moving, posting a shitton and generating discussion. Radfield: Pretty active, but for him that doesn't mean as much. Leaning town on him for now, only because his posts are not as carefully constructed as when he is mafia. Palmar: Kinda inactive day 1, but I can't really say shit about that, since I was inactive myself. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since I'm having a bad feeling about his posts (pretty much reharsh of previous games posts), but still a retarded choice for a lynch day1. These guys shouldn't even be discussed for a lynch day1, since they have a high chance of being shot night 1 when town. Nice way to create a base to try to lynch those guys on day 2.. Anyway, I'm sorry for my current inactivity. It's my birthday and there was a supriseparty yesterday. Today i have dinner with friends so won't be posting much either. I thought i would only lose 1 night due to my birthday (tonight) but a supriseparty made that 2. I read through the thread and have a question. The palmar case seems to be a gathering of little things to me, could someone (preferable one of the voters) explain the case to me? | ||
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I must say palmar, if you are scum you are playing a high risk - high reward game. And even as town i think you're gambling. I don't like why vaderseven claimed and shot soap. If he is scum, this day1 kill makes no sense. As town, this claim and hit is stupid to me. But as scum it's even more stupid. Eventhough stating this creates wifom, i considere him town for the moment. I don't like how syllogism is posting in this game. He is very agressive towards everyone and its really creating a bad town environment. (at least to me) I'm not saying he's scum for that, but i just don't like it. redFF, i consider him town. He defended soap before the kill (who was town) op basing on meta, thus using logic. On December 06 2011 07:07 sandroba wrote: What the fuck, insta-delurk when called out. I think you got one there. I consider sandroba the scumiest from atm. Lanaia did not insta-delurk there.. why would you say that? | ||
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On December 07 2011 07:55 sandroba wrote: Annul is playing very simillar to what he did day1 in the last game, which made me suspicious of him. However he did shape up day 2 and I was able to correctly identify him as town that game. I'll reserve judgement to tomorrow if I'm alive, if not it's up to you bastards to decide. @Annul Can you please point me to a game where you lasted a bit as scum, I'm in a mood to read right now. Both kingjames and risen put out a lot of effort yesterday when they already knew Hier flips was inevitable. Hier's alignment was at that point a blind guess so it's very suspicious behaviour indeed as no townie would know for sure the outcome of the lynch and any effort at that time was simply being converted into looking good and uselesly defending an innocent who was about to flip. They are both very suspicious and should be looked into with more detail. QUOTE]On December 07 2011 02:01 hyshes wrote: I consider sandroba the scumiest from atm. Lanaia did not insta-delurk there.. why would you say that? This is falacy. Lanaia DID insta-delurk there, she posted 10 min after radfield posted an attack on her, while she was missing for 2 hours. Last game 2 players (greymist and matchew) did the same thing and I called them out for it and they ended up being mafia indeed. I stand by my opinion that lanaia is scum. @Hyshes why would you blatantly lie to cast suspicion onto me?[/QUOTE] LOL.. i wasn't lying. What did you think about coincidence? returning to the thread after 2h isn't that weird.. You are the one lying. | ||
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On December 08 2011 01:11 Palmar wrote: In 157 letters you managed to make two logical errors. a) You cannot deduce anything about a person's alignment by other people's reactions to their posts. b) Trying to spearhead lynches is generally not a scumtell. This pains me because I think you're town, your posts during the night feel simply out of place if you're scum, unless of course the decision to kill syllo was made after his row with annul. But please, re-think your stance. I never said (a).. I just don't like (in the sense of this game, i have no problem with you guys whatsoever) the people voting for anul. Thats why i don't vote for anul. And I don't deduct your alignment from their posts, i'm taking it from yours. (b) is just not a void argument. | ||
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On December 08 2011 12:27 redFF wrote: scumteam atm is palmar, prplhz, zephirdd mattchew and then someone else i dunno maybe rad? I'm following redFF here. With the exception of rad. The reaction of zephirdd and mattchew is rather weird. I don't know what the gif from radfield means. Care to use words? | ||
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The people on Annul's wagon have nothing to do with whether or not you should be supporting it. Common.. what kind of logic is this? If i have suspicon about all the people voting for annul.. no way i'm going to vote with them. At that moment it doesn't matter what kind of case there is. I'm just not voting on anyone together with players i don't trust. Anyways, i'm not voting anyone you push forward. I'm going to follow toad's case on errandor here. | ||
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On December 08 2011 23:37 Palmar wrote: If you have a justified reason to believe the people voting annul are scum, then it's very likely the case on it's own should be too weak to follow anyway. So yes, this is logic. It's simply incorrect to dismiss a case based on the presumption that some players presenting or supporting the case might be scum, if the case is valid enough it should be followed. You got a point there. But in this case it's void. The case against annul is from you and you are the untrustworthy one, together with the rest of these voters on annul. | ||
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On December 08 2011 23:59 Mattchew wrote: you realize last time you did this... ace flipped town and you backed out He can't back out if we force it on him. If we are with 16 who support this 100% (so me +15, palmar not included) i'm willing to do this. | ||
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On December 09 2011 00:07 Mattchew wrote: lol what? Please explain to me why you are actually willing to do this. bc i'm not letting palmar have free townkills | ||
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On December 09 2011 00:09 hyshes wrote: bc i'm not letting palmar have free townkills And 1 for 1 trades are good for town | ||
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On December 09 2011 06:02 Toadesstern wrote: it's hard because this is the first game we're playing together I think. I mean I shot you last game on n2 with my awesome vigpower but other than that I don't know much about your meta. Drazerk just loves to play aggressively and claims whatever he thinks is necessary to get people talking and slipping. I've played together with him as mason 2 games ago. He is leaning very towards town for me. | ||
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On December 09 2011 09:11 annul wrote: is there anyone in the game who thinks toad is a mafia? I'm 80% sure he is town | ||
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On December 09 2011 09:18 annul wrote: ok well in 45 minutes i will make a nice announcement depending on the answers i get to my last few questions IF YOU ARE HERE AND ACTIVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ANSWER MY LAST FEW QUESTIONS PLEASE namely, 1. who do you think is MOST town; 2. do you think toad is town/mafia? 1. Most? toad 2. so yes | ||
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