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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 05 2011 01:07 GMT
#23
##Signup

What is the max player count?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 05 2011 04:22 GMT
#25
Oh nvmd, the new format is confusing.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 15 2011 00:20 GMT
#232
I was so hyped for the ZBot, and now you're telling me that it's not working?

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! MAKE IT WORK NOW, YOU HAVE 1 HOUR.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 15 2011 02:52 GMT
#243
/confirm gogogogoggoo
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 15 2011 16:15 GMT
#315
On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote:
/confirm
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 16:12 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:49 DCLXVI wrote:
damn I forgot people post while I'm in the middle of writing posts... ugh


On November 15 2011 14:55 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:19 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote:
come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means.
LAL?
For your point on LAL, unless I have misread the OP, we only know what abilities are possible, not which are actually in the game, how they may have been combined into roles, nor how many of the role there may be. So, unless we have a cop of some variety, I don't know how you intend to find liars in this game. So were you just stating that as a general "in mafia games" rule, or did you have something in mind for this game in particular? I'd be interested in hearing how you intend to determine the liars given the setup.

Lying will come up and you will be able to recognize it. The most prominent example is fake claims. So LAL means no fake claims. + Show Spoiler +
Or it means don't get caught lying.
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenpachi's green claim would be an example of a potentially acceptable lie (if he is blue) as this early in the game any claims are meaningless


So what is your position on Kenpachi claiming townie? At first you say LAL, but then lying can be acceptable in certain situations, such as kenpachi is blue. Then you say that his claim is meaningless as it is too early in the game. Does that make his post spam/intentionally distracting? Surely he is a good enough player to realize the importance of his claim. Can you explain your opinions on the subject rather than just post vague generalizations. Is kenpachi's claim worth analyzing/what does it mean?

Wtf does this mean? Are you saying you are taking Kenpachi seriously?
Stop talking hypotheticals, iirc you've played with Kenpachi before. Even if you have not you can go through his posts and figure out how he plays. In addition you've played before so you know how TL mafia is in the first few hours. I honestly don't see how

I´m going to step in here. DCLXVI allready caught this and posted before me, but I don´t think my reason for noticing has been discussed. Okay, to me it looks like this; LSB wants us to Lynch All Liars. Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta. It took him about 5 posts to go back on his own policy of Lynch All Liars. If Kenpachi lied (or play Pro-Scum), why does LSB then defend him after his first policy post?

FoS LSB

As for lynching 1-2 lurkers and 1-2 scum, sounds reasonable, I think we should stay at about that number for now. We need to be carefull about lynching, not just because of the consequences in the setup, but if we find 5 players who seem connected, then it´s better to lynch 1-2 and see if they are scum, than lynching all 5 at once and kill 5 innocent townies at once.


Ummm... what?

I'm sure you know this. Kenpachi's townie claim means nothing. It never means anything. He does it every single game. LSB ignoring it does not imply contradiction; it implies common sense. And your FoS on him is incredibly scummy.

FURTHERMORE, claiming town is not pro-scum, because it is in everyone's best interest to appear as a vanilla towie. Townies want to look green because they are green. Blues want to look green so that they are not a Mafia target. And Mafia wants to look green (most of the time) because they don't want to get lynched.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#317
On November 16 2011 01:19 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 01:15 Nisani201 wrote:
On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote:
/confirm
On November 15 2011 16:12 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:49 DCLXVI wrote:
damn I forgot people post while I'm in the middle of writing posts... ugh


On November 15 2011 14:55 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:19 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote:
come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means.
LAL?
For your point on LAL, unless I have misread the OP, we only know what abilities are possible, not which are actually in the game, how they may have been combined into roles, nor how many of the role there may be. So, unless we have a cop of some variety, I don't know how you intend to find liars in this game. So were you just stating that as a general "in mafia games" rule, or did you have something in mind for this game in particular? I'd be interested in hearing how you intend to determine the liars given the setup.

Lying will come up and you will be able to recognize it. The most prominent example is fake claims. So LAL means no fake claims. + Show Spoiler +
Or it means don't get caught lying.
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenpachi's green claim would be an example of a potentially acceptable lie (if he is blue) as this early in the game any claims are meaningless


So what is your position on Kenpachi claiming townie? At first you say LAL, but then lying can be acceptable in certain situations, such as kenpachi is blue. Then you say that his claim is meaningless as it is too early in the game. Does that make his post spam/intentionally distracting? Surely he is a good enough player to realize the importance of his claim. Can you explain your opinions on the subject rather than just post vague generalizations. Is kenpachi's claim worth analyzing/what does it mean?

Wtf does this mean? Are you saying you are taking Kenpachi seriously?
Stop talking hypotheticals, iirc you've played with Kenpachi before. Even if you have not you can go through his posts and figure out how he plays. In addition you've played before so you know how TL mafia is in the first few hours. I honestly don't see how

I´m going to step in here. DCLXVI allready caught this and posted before me, but I don´t think my reason for noticing has been discussed. Okay, to me it looks like this; LSB wants us to Lynch All Liars. Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta. It took him about 5 posts to go back on his own policy of Lynch All Liars. If Kenpachi lied (or play Pro-Scum), why does LSB then defend him after his first policy post?

FoS LSB

As for lynching 1-2 lurkers and 1-2 scum, sounds reasonable, I think we should stay at about that number for now. We need to be carefull about lynching, not just because of the consequences in the setup, but if we find 5 players who seem connected, then it´s better to lynch 1-2 and see if they are scum, than lynching all 5 at once and kill 5 innocent townies at once.


Ummm... what?

I'm sure you know this. Kenpachi's townie claim means nothing. It never means anything. He does it every single game. LSB ignoring it does not imply contradiction; it implies common sense. And your FoS on him is incredibly scummy.

FURTHERMORE, claiming town is not pro-scum, because it is in everyone's best interest to appear as a vanilla towie. Townies want to look green because they are green. Blues want to look green so that they are not a Mafia target. And Mafia wants to look green (most of the time) because they don't want to get lynched.


"most of the time"? Care to explain to a newbie when would a mafia NOT want to appear green?

Sometimes Mafia has to fakeclaim a blue role as a last resort to escape a lynch.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 15 2011 17:26 GMT
#330
On November 16 2011 02:10 GreYMisT wrote:
Nisani, in both your relevant posts of the game, you have given very neutral coments, and they both serve to give the mafia an "out." bolded are the examples.


Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 01:22 Nisani201 wrote:

FURTHERMORE, claiming town is not pro-scum, because it is in everyone's best interest to appear as a vanilla towie. Townies want to look green because they are green. Blues want to look green so that they are not a Mafia target. And Mafia wants to look green (most of the time) because they don't want to get lynched.



and

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 01:22 Nisani201 wrote:

Sometimes Mafia has to fakeclaim a blue role as a last resort to escape a lynch.


To me this seems really odd. Care to elaborate on your reasons for posting these?


I was simply responding to what some people were saying.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 15 2011 17:44 GMT
#336
On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:
Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit.

We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are.

Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit.

Oh, hi kibbibit

##Vote Nisani201

I cannot tell if you are scum or just plain stupid. I make about a few posts and you accuse me of "useless fluff"?

FoS on you for creating an anti-town atmosphere. None of what I said was useless fluff.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 04:05 GMT
#398
On November 16 2011 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 11:39 GreYMisT wrote:
WBG, you also said that we should lynch perferably 3 people today, but focus on only one target during the eairler portions. Don't you think its going to be difficult to decide when we have all decided to lynch someone, and then ignore everything they say while we work out who else to kill? While i feel the same that we should keep focused on one person per day, I think that it would better serve to keep the multi lynch in reserve unless we can all agree to use it.



Nah, remember I said we need to all focus on one person until 24-36 hours before lynch.

Then we start consolidating to get multiple targets. Basically, if one person is working on a case on one person and one person only, it's more effective than if that one person tries splitting their attention to watch four or five at once. It's just not effective.

If we all focus on one target each and then evaluate toward the end of the day, we can sift through the best cases and work on lynching those. However we need activity in the last 24 hours to make this viable, and we'll rack up a lot of posts. But it'll hopefully be the best way to find scum.

What I don't want people doing is what chaoser is doing; just going out there and throwing votes left and right without actually thinking about them. Sure, you can do it if you want, but it's not going to be pretty. The thread will be a mess and you'll have multiple people OMGUSing because they're taking votes.

Oh god...

Why? Why do you always say things in every game that makes me mad?

There are so many ways this could go wrong. For instance, say we're focusing on Target A, and then Target B does something that is moderately scummy.

Do we FoS him? Vote him? "No," says the master, WBG. "First, we must finish discussing target A, THEN, we can go ahead with Target B."

This can only protect mafia. Please, no one do this.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 15:53 GMT
#484
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?

Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.

##Vote: Forumite
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 17:16 GMT
#505
On November 17 2011 00:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?

Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.

##Vote: Forumite


Which case is bullshit mr. Nisani201?

Both of them are bullshit. First we have this case against LSB, which I already mentioned:

On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote:
/confirm
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 16:12 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:49 DCLXVI wrote:
damn I forgot people post while I'm in the middle of writing posts... ugh


On November 15 2011 14:55 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:19 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote:
come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means.
LAL?
For your point on LAL, unless I have misread the OP, we only know what abilities are possible, not which are actually in the game, how they may have been combined into roles, nor how many of the role there may be. So, unless we have a cop of some variety, I don't know how you intend to find liars in this game. So were you just stating that as a general "in mafia games" rule, or did you have something in mind for this game in particular? I'd be interested in hearing how you intend to determine the liars given the setup.

Lying will come up and you will be able to recognize it. The most prominent example is fake claims. So LAL means no fake claims. + Show Spoiler +
Or it means don't get caught lying.
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenpachi's green claim would be an example of a potentially acceptable lie (if he is blue) as this early in the game any claims are meaningless


So what is your position on Kenpachi claiming townie? At first you say LAL, but then lying can be acceptable in certain situations, such as kenpachi is blue. Then you say that his claim is meaningless as it is too early in the game. Does that make his post spam/intentionally distracting? Surely he is a good enough player to realize the importance of his claim. Can you explain your opinions on the subject rather than just post vague generalizations. Is kenpachi's claim worth analyzing/what does it mean?

Wtf does this mean? Are you saying you are taking Kenpachi seriously?
Stop talking hypotheticals, iirc you've played with Kenpachi before. Even if you have not you can go through his posts and figure out how he plays. In addition you've played before so you know how TL mafia is in the first few hours. I honestly don't see how

I´m going to step in here. DCLXVI allready caught this and posted before me, but I don´t think my reason for noticing has been discussed. Okay, to me it looks like this; LSB wants us to Lynch All Liars. Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta. It took him about 5 posts to go back on his own policy of Lynch All Liars. If Kenpachi lied (or play Pro-Scum), why does LSB then defend him after his first policy post?

FoS LSB

As for lynching 1-2 lurkers and 1-2 scum, sounds reasonable, I think we should stay at about that number for now. We need to be carefull about lynching, not just because of the consequences in the setup, but if we find 5 players who seem connected, then it´s better to lynch 1-2 and see if they are scum, than lynching all 5 at once and kill 5 innocent townies at once.


And then we have this:


On November 16 2011 22:48 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 22:09 xsksc wrote:
On November 16 2011 21:42 Forumite wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:13 xsksc wrote:
This is my first proper mafia game, just finished a newbie mini-game the other day.
GLHF Everyone!:D

Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same.

FoS: xsksc


Sorry, what? I posted this before the game even got going, I was breaking the ice and being friendly, what is scummy about it? It IS my first real mafia game, I'm excited about it. Several others have said it's their first game too. Can you enlighten me, why do you think it's a newbie scumpost?

No, the game had allready started. You confirmed getting your role first of all players, then when people got going with discussing policy, you dropped the above post. During 2 hours people had been talking about policy, and even dropped a few weird posts that have since been called out, so the game had definetly started.

And about which part is scummy about it? Everything! You excuse yourself as a new player, thereby lowering our expectations on your contribution in the game, making way for future lurking. It´s an empty icebreaker, full of forced enthusiasm. The message of the post is "I´m trying to help but will probably fail". Is that the kind of player we are going to rely on in this game, or someone who will be left until the end because noone will bother to shoot him?


He is pressuring them based on bullshit cases.

------------

In regards to chaoser, I don't think that Palmar's analysis has enough evidence to prove him guilty. Just because it's Palmar doesn't mean that we can't look at his analysees objectively.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 18:36 GMT
#516
Can we get a votecount?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 21:15 GMT
#553
How experienced is chaoser? Has anyone played a game with him?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 23:55 GMT
#694
Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down.

But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die.

##Vote: Kenpachi
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 16 2011 23:58 GMT
#699
Also, Lanaia will wait. If Kenpachi ends up being town, we don't want to end up lynching a confirmed blue with him because we got impatient.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 17 2011 00:05 GMT
#708
OK EVERYONE HOLD THE PHONE!

Is Kenpachi dead, or can I unvote him?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 17 2011 00:13 GMT
#729
Kenpachi, what do you think of Forumite?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 17 2011 01:02 GMT
#800
Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.

##Vote: Palmar
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 17 2011 16:58 GMT
#898
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.

Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?

##Vote: Drazerk
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
November 17 2011 19:25 GMT
#916
I'm not voting Chaoser because the main case on him (Palmar's) doesn't have enough evidence.

I'm not voting Sinani or prplhz because I think we have pretty good non-lurker suspects that can die. I prefer lynching scum over lurkers.
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