Pick Your Power Interesting!

On October 11 2011 23:05 GMarshal wrote:

To deny it to mafia. Denying mafia strong roles is a viable way to make your picks. Kenpachi did this in PYP:3, where he picked GF to keep it out of the hands of the mafia.

Same deal here, don't want a pesky assassin killing off town roles? Pick it. Don't want the roleblocker bothering townies? Take it. Want DTs to be more reliable? Pick framer.

On October 12 2011 01:22 GMarshal wrote:

I can see it now, DB in the number 1 spot, "huh, I could pick Jack, or Inventor, or Assassin (which is INCREDIBLE, I will be higly dissapointed if it is not taken in the top 5 spots), or Rock Star... nah, roleblocker! "

On October 13 2011 23:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Someone in the mid to high range might want to consider picking Framer as an honesty check and to discourage anyone from picking it late in the draft.

With all the lynch dodging abilitites (hero, vet, vote rigger, Showtime!) the Qatol ability might be pretty useful for town to ban the person who is about to get lynched to increase the odds that it goes through. Considering there will be so many mafia information checks, it will also let us remove a scum power if we are unable to lynch everybody during the day.

On October 14 2011 00:37 JACCUZISPLAT wrote:

lol?

On October 14 2011 01:42 chaoser wrote:


In the interest of making 100% sure that we keep the framer role out of the mafia's hands I suggest that someone pick Qatol and then ban it once Dropbear has gotten it. It takes the ambiguity of whether Dropbear is actually mafia or not. I can't think of a single situation where a townie framer would be advantageous that would likely come up that wouldn't just cause more confusion and disruption.

On October 14 2011 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:
It was already mentioned that a framer can't redirect a mafia kp. Unless there is an extremely unlikly situation where there is a claimed scum CPR doc whose kill we want to redirect, it certainly isn't worth masking someones alignment.

On October 15 2011 11:09 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so since no one else wants to talk about it, I'll talk about it. Scum Hunting. I am horrible at picking plans and I'm horrible at talking about elections. The one thing I'm good at is scum hunting.

I'm willing to lynch DropBear off his horrible Framer idea and then his defense for not letting it get banned. His logic is weak as fuck for his defense:

[13:23] <DropBear> you guys need to think outside the box
[13:23] <DropBear> there are 43% mafia in this game
[13:24] <DropBear> i will be negating them
[13:24] <DropBear> it is easy
[13:24] <DropBear> i simply dont use my role the first couple of days
[13:24] <DropBear> and use it later on when there are strong suspects
[13:24] <DropBear> and redirect their actions
[13:24] <kitaman27_> how do we know you're not using your role?
[13:25] <chaoser> what makes you think you'll survive the first couple of days?
[13:25] <chaoser> what makes you think you won't be roleblocked?
[13:25] <mudkip> nobody sees the third party but you say you are
[13:25] <chaoser> and then we're fucked
[13:25] <kitaman27_> you could be masking scum as town and we would never know
[13:25] <chaoser> cause do we believe you were actually roleblocked
[13:25] <chaoser> or that you are lying
[13:25] <mudkip> and if you dont get it should we just innately believe you
[13:25] <chaoser> if you say you were thief-ed then what?
[13:25] <chaoser> what about role swap?
[13:25] <mudkip> theres too many things that can go wrong with town choosing framer
[13:25] <chaoser> how are you goign to stop those?
[13:26] <DropBear> ok
[13:26] <DropBear> lets say i pick doctor
[13:26] <DropBear> what happens if i get theifed?
[13:26] <DropBear> or roleswapped?
[13:26] <DropBear> the same fucking thing lol
[13:26] <chaoser> if you pick doctor you wouln't be fucking claiming it in thread
[13:26] <DropBear> what happens if i choose cupid?

[13:32] <DropBear> kita
[13:32] <DropBear> where does it say
[13:32] <DropBear> that mafia kp is not redirected
[13:32] <chaoser> i just posted
[13:32] <chaoser> in thread
[13:32] <DropBear> oh
[13:32] <DropBear> thanks
[13:32] <DropBear> well then fuck framer lol
[13:33] <DropBear> that was the whole idea i had
[13:33] <DropBear> fuck i gotta choose something different now -_-
[13:33] <kitaman27_> the purpose of you taking it was for role denail
[13:33] <kitaman27_> not because it was good for town

Kita first introduced the idea for framer to be picked to deny it to mafia/honesty check. Dropbear quotes it and immediately says he wants to do it. I suggest that if he picks it that we should ban it from him to get it out of the game and immediately he is very much against it when it's a very protown thing to do. He then uses shitty logic and doesn't give up until the final real reason (redirecting KP) is shown to be impossible.

On October 18 2011 01:19 Jackal58 wrote:

You only shoot DTs right?