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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
September 30 2011 08:12 GMT
#46
/in
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 12 2011 15:35 GMT
#274
This is fun!

I think I'm going to pick 7 because many people will pick lower numbers, and then I will pick 12 for my second number.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 13 2011 12:46 GMT
#425
I am afraid of MAFIA!

So I will not tell you my numbers, for they will only be revealed to those who are worthy!
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 14 2011 09:29 GMT
#524
##Vote Mig for Mayor!

I think his heart is pure!

In other news, we are surrounded by evil MAFIA! This means we have to be careful and we have to look beyond.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 14 2011 11:36 GMT
#528
How does addition work when you consider intelligence and scum-sense? Can you realistically except two people who share their minds to be twice as effective as one person? But double the stakes, what if those two people are always wrong!

Now let's sit down and think for a moment. What happens if two people who are always wrong share their wrongness?

Are they double wrong? What is the definition of double wrong? Does this mean that they are so wrong that they will implode and suicide? Can I understand this as a soft-claim of you guys having picked Admiral Ackbar? Only time will tell.

I have a reason to believe Syllogism is town, and I trust his judgement on Mig therefore.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 14 2011 11:47 GMT
#530
I am arctocod on skype!

You can talk to me and share my wisdom there.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 14 2011 11:55 GMT
#532
On October 14 2011 20:46 Scamp wrote:
Trusting someone's judgement just because they are town is idiotic.


On the contrary, at this point I have very little to go by except the election posts themselves. The only people I have been in contact with outside of this thread are Syllogism, Kitaman27 and DropBear. I have a reason to believe Syllogism is town.

I also believe Syllogism has an excellent nose for Mig's alignment in PM games, so by extension Mig must be town. While I would myself rather talk directly to Mig, until I have been in contact with him, I find Syllogism's judgement to be good enough proof, seeing as he is one of the best players in this game.

However, what is your purpose, trying to cloud my judgement, why do you step in to cast doubt upon something that I have good reasons to do?
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 14 2011 15:14 GMT
#554
On October 14 2011 23:47 JACCUZISPLAT wrote:
plus its funny because mig and syllo always work together in pm games.

this still stands and im waiting

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On October 14 2011 22:07 JACCUZISPLAT wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:55 Arctocod wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:46 Scamp wrote:
Trusting someone's judgement just because they are town is idiotic.


On the contrary, at this point I have very little to go by except the election posts themselves. The only people I have been in contact with outside of this thread are Syllogism, Kitaman27 and DropBear. I have a reason to believe Syllogism is town.

I also believe Syllogism has an excellent nose for Mig's alignment in PM games, so by extension Mig must be town. While I would myself rather talk directly to Mig, until I have been in contact with him, I find Syllogism's judgement to be good enough proof, seeing as he is one of the best players in this game.

However, what is your purpose, trying to cloud my judgement, why do you step in to cast doubt upon something that I have good reasons to do?

1.link me to a pm game where syllogism has found mig to be scum
2.prove a point
3.then maybe ill listen to you



I do not have extensive knowledge of past games!

But I did simply as Syllogism, and he doesn't recall playing in a PM game where he was town and Mig was scum, so I am unable to provide what you requested!
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 15 2011 12:01 GMT
#697
Hello, I am Arctocod.

Here are my observations.

With no disrespect to Greymist, he is not a veteran and has yet to show himself to be excellent at Mafia. I find it extremely weird that anyone is supporting him into office, because there's nothing more dangerous to the mafia than a very good player who cannot be killed.

This is something I'd expect experienced players to recognize. The fact that this is being ignored and a newbie is being voted into position is simply based on fear of what if either Radfield or Mig is scum.

Here is something interesting.

I think we can all agree that the trio of Syllogism, Mig and Sandroba is composed of some of the best players in this game. It is highly unlikely they'd support each other so openly if they were on the same scumteam, not to mention the possibility of those three friends getting mixed up in one team is very slim.

So this means that at least 1-2 of them are pushing the Mig candidacy with honest intentions. After having spoken extensively with all of them I am convinced Syllogism is town, and I think Mig is town. Sandroba is a bit more shady, but he is pushing something logical.

I do not mind people not agreeing about the conclusion that Mig is the best choice, I do however really not want a new player voted into office, that's directly pushing mafia agenda as the best way for mafia to deal with a strong town double voter is to make sure the position is badly manned.

I want to iterate this: The second best choice for any mafia family after putting one of their own into position, is to put a weak player into position.

I am especially surprised to see Foolishness cast his vote away like that. Someone who is as capable as he is at this game, someone who can tell scum from town with real ease, should definitely share his reads and explain to us why we should be voting the same way as he does.

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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 15 2011 16:47 GMT
#712
On October 16 2011 01:32 JimboSilvers wrote:
Oh, and one more important note: Just because mafia can play seemingly pro-town doesn't mean that they will. The fact that there are three mafia teams doesn't mean that scum tells are no longer scum tells.


No, it mostly means that town-tells are no longer town-tells. (this is very generalized approach, but I hope you catch my drift).

I think Mig/Radfield combination would be excellent.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 15 2011 21:37 GMT
#775
On October 16 2011 06:33 Node wrote:
I'm voting Greymist for pretty much the same reason as the other guys. I'm not satisfied with the townie-ness of the other candidates, but in reading Greymist's posts and seeing him talk in IRC I'm pretty confident saying that I've got a stronger town read. He's pretty transparent -- almost too transparent. I feel that if he were mafia I would've definitely seen something I don't like by now.


greymist is town

he just has a slightly weaker reason to be the major than the other two.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 15 2011 21:47 GMT
#779
guys, you should just claim to me.

I already know like 10 people or something.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 15 2011 22:04 GMT
#783
well all the people who claimed vanilla town to me are likely to be bodyguards unless they get swapped out.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 15 2011 22:49 GMT
#788
this game sucks

I don't really care what you do anymore. People are apparently more interested in trolling than actually playing the game.

Someone can shoot me so I can be confirmed town, and then you can know at least both syllogism and supersoft lied about their roleclaims.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#878
you're a moron cheese
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 19:30 GMT
#880
On October 17 2011 04:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On October 17 2011 04:21 Arctocod wrote:
you're a moron cheese

Thanks, that completely explains all the issues with what I had to say, I'm glad your trying to encourage me to contribute :/


If all you're going to contribute is trying to point out something that you want to be considered "scumtell" then I'd rather you just shut up.

Role-fishing is not a scumtell in itself, it's only if it's done in a scummy way that it isn't. You're trying to paint syllogism scum because you're not thinking.

This either makes you dumb or scum, and in both cases I actually don't mind you just shutting up.

Are you scum?
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 19:37 GMT
#882
On October 17 2011 04:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 04:30 Arctocod wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 17 2011 04:21 Arctocod wrote:
you're a moron cheese

Thanks, that completely explains all the issues with what I had to say, I'm glad your trying to encourage me to contribute :/


If all you're going to contribute is trying to point out something that you want to be considered "scumtell" then I'd rather you just shut up.

Role-fishing is not a scumtell in itself, it's only if it's done in a scummy way that it isn't. You're trying to paint syllogism scum because you're not thinking.

This either makes you dumb or scum, and in both cases I actually don't mind you just shutting up.

Are you scum?

What exactly is your idea of a difference between scummy and non-scummy rolefishing?


If scum tries to rolefish it's scummy

But syllo isn't scum, he's just an asshole. There's a difference.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 23:34 GMT
#885
Heist

First off, let's look at this post by Chaoser.

On October 16 2011 04:01 chaoser wrote:
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On October 16 2011 03:52 heist wrote:
I'll be keeping my vote on Radfield. None of this, I PMed him. He comes across as town. If you are running for mayor I want you posting in the thread itself. The mayors at least should be leaving a mark on the thread, being active, contributing. Mig and Greymist, I feel like you two are feeling secure that you have a couple people believing you're town and doing pretty minimal stuff in the actual forum. I can't tell what you guys really are because you aren't active enough in-thread.

Do I know you guys are town? No. I can't just trust others telling me Greymist is town based on their conversations. And you guys expect me to have PM conversations in order judge for myself. Rather I expect you guys to start posting more in thread to more accurately gauge your alignments.

Radfield, at least, has been doing just that and even though he is better than most at hiding his mafia alignment, he's one of the most active players in thread right now and a really good scum-hunter.


if he's better at hiding his mafia alignment why would you vote for him even if he is active??? How do the two cancel each other out???


To which heist replies:

On October 16 2011 04:05 heist wrote:
and the other candidates? they aren't exactly exuding townie to me.

And that implies that no matter what Radfield does, he needs to be killed off immediately since he's so unreadable.



This post is written in direct response to chaoser's point that it's very dangerous to put radfield in office. I don't think anyone can interpret this post as anything other than heist implying he thinks chaoser wants to kill radfield if he gets in office, as he seems to be pointing out the ridiculousness of chaoser being so afraid of putting an unreadable player in office.

But later heist really backtracks on this one:

On October 16 2011 05:09 heist wrote:
I never implied that you wanted Radfield killed off. This is getting stupid.


Which is an outright lie.

I think heist doesn't want to stick his neck out too much, I think he's basically scum who doesn't actually care too much about pushing his reads, he just wants to contribute without actually ever being in danger of being scrutinized.

I think heist would be an excellent lynch target tomorrow.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 16 2011 23:52 GMT
#891
On October 17 2011 08:47 deconduo wrote:
Wow I thought I would have a load to read up on when I got back but today has been really quiet. I'm surprised no one has called for a vig shot on Foolishness, he's very obviously scum at this point especially as Node flipped scum. The rest of the people trying to get greymist elected should be checked, especially WBG.


greymist is probably town.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 17 2011 08:33 GMT
#973
we need to kill someone from the tudor family asap
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