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Even if you are about to be lynched and you have the ring, I can't really come up with a compelling reason to claim that you have it, except perhaps if the ring has powers that can be used in a pro town fashion and you can demonstrate that you've done so, thus possibly saving us from mislynch. If you get lynched, it will just narrow down the list of potential owners,. | ||
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On September 17 2011 23:04 Pyo wrote: Does anyone else find this whole exchange to be really suspicious? Jackal is currently on top of my suspicion list, mostly due to being around last night while not saying anything useful at all. However, I don't think the above looks like a conversation between scum buddies. WBG's play makes very little sense regardless of his alignment, though a third party makes most sense. | ||
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On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote: Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right. But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So, ##Vote Drazerk Can you elaborate on these "suspicions" and also why lynching him would give us information regarding greymist and the people who voted for him? If drazerk flips scum, what does it tell you? And if he flips town? | ||
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On September 18 2011 02:40 Jackal58 wrote: That was to Heist. His proposal is so pro mafia it's not even funny. I disagree; it's pretty much always better to have two lynch wagons. He wasn't proposing a chain lynch and even if both wagons turn out to be town, it forces scum to voice their opinion on both candidates, thus producing more information for later analysis. | ||
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Jackal, GGQ, possibly iGrok In addition, Vain's posts thus far have been so devoid of content that he looks like a decent alternative, despite not exactly being a veteran. Drazerk apologizing for going away for a few hours looks somewhat off too, given that his activity hasn't exactly been very high anyway. Unfortunately a bunch of veterans are getting away with posting nothing at all (Jeejee/Sandroba/Palmar), but at least the latter two have an excuse due to not being around and I'm willing to ignore jeejee on day 1 due to his recent game history. Lynching WBG is a waste of time unless we've a reason to believe he has KP or that he could be a scum fake claiming. The former is unlikely given the OP specifically implies that there are roles with the ability to steal items and having both abilities might be redundant if we believe his win con is simply to obtain the ring. Further, it's rather unlikely a SK would open claim day 1 as we would obviously get suspicious if night KP/flavor indicates that there is a SK. As for the possibility of him being scum, the claim again makes no sense as Gollum is a very likely character to be present in the game and having gollum as a scum safe claim seems unfair. I suppose it's possible for gollum to be scum aligned rather than a neutral party, but again it makes no sense to claim as it still makes him a likely vig target. ##vote Jackal | ||
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On September 18 2011 17:41 wherebugsgo wrote: Can you explain, syllogism, why you prefer Jackal over GGQ or iGrok? For those who care, Jackal's filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264699&user=124528 Basically because I'm more familiar with his play and GGQ has had a tendency to be inactivate as town in the few games I've played with him, I recall. However, they are all good candidates, and I had to pick one. | ||
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On September 19 2011 04:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Haha, this looks so scummy to me. Instead of looking for people who are acting scummy, you want to try to lynch people based on usefulness. This isn't too bad in itself, but then instead of giving concrete examples for each of the players you listed, you bring up 5 other players and give reasons why they're good lynch targets as well (But not as good as the first three). Then you spend the latter half of your post talking about WBG instead of the 8 lynch targets you brought up. So, instead of focusing on one player who is scummy, you bring up 3 targets, give no specific reasons for voting any of them, and then add 5 other targets to that pile as well, before what looks like just a random vote among them. Talk about spreading out focus. FOS Syllogism Also, while I'm at it, Syllo, what do you think of prplhz? I don't find any of the behaviour I noted scummy by itself, because most players on TL tend to be illogical. There are some players I hold to a higher standards, and indeed I find them easier to read. Contradictions can be scummy, but can often be attributed to poor logic by either reader or the author. Only four of the people I listed in my post were presented as lynch candidates, and the three names were clearly highlighted as the ones I'd focus on today. Twisting words if scummy behaviour, so either you misread or have an agenda; jeejee/palmar/sandroba were noted for their complete lack of thread presence and correctly so. Do you disagree? I have never seen you FoS someone and then vote for someone else, which is also curious. However, your scum play seems blander than this so perhaps it's just that I haven't seen you play town enough. I found prplhz fairly suspicious, quite similar to Vain, as his early posts were complete fluff, but his case against Dr.H seemed genuine, even if I disagree with most of the content. If you haven't noticed, I'm nowadays quite against lynching newer players unless the case amounts to something other than "he isn't making sense". Non-contributing veterans are generally better targets. The connection you attempt to draw between me and WBG is pretty hilarious, given I'm the one who got him to claim third party and his alleged win con, which clearly made him a lynch candidate and a very likely eventual vig target. Do you think switching vote is scummy behaviour? Is it scummier than throwing your vote away when it becomes clear your candidate of choice isn't going to get lynched? What is the scum motivation for switching, unless WBG is scum? | ||
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On September 19 2011 05:29 Radfield wrote: I don't necessarily disagree on Dr H, but no matter what his alignment he'll be active. Time will tell if he's scum or not. Since you're here DocH, what are you're thoughts on Errandor. Do you still find WBG suspicious despite the upswing in his posting? Solid enough for you to vote for him? I'm considering it right now, based on the likely alternatives. Due to time zone constraints I'll be off within 30 minutes, so I won't be able to react based on how voting develops. Given that I don't find WBG and prplhz to be good lynches, I'll likely switch before I'm off. I don't think Jackal has done anything to make him look townier since my vote, however. | ||
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