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On September 14 2011 06:10 Lanaia wrote: I want to in, but school just started and all. And I'm already swamped! (How does that even happen). Looks like it'll be an awesome game! You need to get your priorities straight. LoTR>everything | ||
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On September 17 2011 10:33 Navillus wrote: Also I don't like cluttering the space with too much talk about the ring, I think for the sake of those with no knowledge of the lore I should say (btw I've only seen the movies) Frodo probably can give the ring Sam almost definitely can Aragorn possibly can And In LOTR the powerful people, even the goodies made it seem particularly bad if they were to get the ring, specifically Galdrial and Gandalf make sure never to touch it, this won't necessarily factor into the game but I think it's info everyone should have, beyond everyone getting the basics (and do add if I missed something obviously important) I think we should stop talking about this. Because of the nature of the ring, it may also be more difficult to hand the ring off the longer you hold on to it. More speculation ftw. Just to get all the speculation out of the way, if anyone is a neutral sk type of role, it's gonna be gollum. Tom Bombadil would probably be a neutral survivor type role if he exists. Who knows. | ||
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On September 17 2011 10:40 Drazerk wrote: Fine with me... no idea why you would claim VT this early in the game though. Yeah claiming VT is really sketch tbh. It's either a lie or bad play. | ||
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On September 17 2011 12:54 Navillus wrote: EBWOP: I'm actually curious, I'm still really bad at mafia and I want to know. If you are actually VT, the mafia knows not to waste a shot on you, increasing the chances that they'll get a bluesnipe. | ||
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On September 18 2011 05:07 iGrok wrote: What suspicions are those? Not to mention how bout we lynch to kill scum, instead of lynching to figure out information. I'm all for lynching scum, but I highly doubt we hit scum today. There's no good candidates yet. That being said, upon rereading I have no idea why I was suspicious of Drazerk. Chalk that up to an awful hangover. I'll try to work up something better soon[/QUOTE] This post is really ugly, dude. A couple people call you out and you just completely backtrack? Looking forward to that 'something better'. Voting igrok for now, I'd like to see the lynch be between igrok, prplhz, and perhaps one other player (vain?), let's not throw votes around at too many targets. | ||
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On September 18 2011 06:38 GGQ wrote: This post is really ugly, dude. A couple people call you out and you just completely backtrack? Looking forward to that 'something better'. Voting igrok for now, I'd like to see the lynch be between igrok, prplhz, and perhaps one other player (vain?), let's not throw votes around at too many targets. preview post is a useful function... | ||
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On September 18 2011 15:32 Archon_Toilet wrote: So many people yelling at each other, hard to read what is going on. Many plans and ideas, some good some bad. People who are making plans are probably not mafia, even if bad plans. Sauron would want us to not be planning, yes? All the people talking about ideas are not Mafia we need to look at the others. All the guys talking lots lik bugs, TranceStorm etc are probably fine just giving bad ideas. We should kill GGQ. Happy to hide and let everyone yell at each other. He only talk when the arguing has died down and only make one line posts, just trying to make the 5 posts. He make excuse and sorry about making bad suspicion, promise to come back and say more but never did. Vote igrok when he said there are no good candidates? Then try to direct vote? Add another suspicion on Vain for no reason just muddy the waters. So wishy-washy too. We should push him into mount doom. ##Push GGQ into the fire Those parts were actually me quoting iGrok before voting for him. So yeah, your case on me is based on things I didn't say, and were in fact said by the person I voted for. Feel free to change your vote to iGrok if you still think those are scummy things to say, though. | ||
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On September 19 2011 00:57 Erandorr wrote: GGQ while we are at it, what are your thoughts for day 1? Could you be any more specific? I think iGrock and prplhz are the best votes. wbg a better vig shot than a lynch. The others (drazerk trancestorm, navillus) seem just as likely to be noobtown as mafia. | ||
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I want to address the rampant tendency of people to post their town reads. Why are we doing this? Unless the person is at risk of getting lynched, there's no reason to talk about who you think is town or pro-town. You're just giving the mafia free targets. I'm gonna take a look at that cipher now brb | ||
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As an illustration, let's say there are four players left in the last night phase, and one is mafia. You are town and there is one player you trust and two that you aren't sure of. If you have outed the player that you trust to be town, mafia just kills that guy and you are screwed. Of course, even if you haven't outed it, there's a chance that mafia kills the guy you trust anyways but there's also the possibility that they kill the less trusted guy, making lylo much easier. It gets cloudier when you enlarge the game but the principle still applies. The more people express trust of someone, the faster the mafia pop him off. I'm not saying that players should try to be scummy or lurky to avoid kills, that's just bad play, but if you think someone's posting gives townie vibes, there's no reason to publicly announce it. And saying that you think sandroba is town because you want people to listen to sandroba isn't a good reason. If people think sandroba is town then they will listen to him. If you say that, it only influences people if they trust both you and sandroba, which is a subset of the people that trust sandroba. As for jackal, I find him suspicious in a "I have no reason to think you are town" way, but I find iGrok suspicious in a "I have reason to think you are scum" way. Besides which, I know jackal has the potential to be valuable in a late game situation, where I don't know the same about iGrok. | ||
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On September 21 2011 04:13 Archon_Toilet wrote: I do not understand the cipher but i say it is probably in elvish or black tongue cos we in lord of the rings game. Is likely result of a sheriff check, someone is town. It's not in any of Tolkien's languages. | ||
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On September 22 2011 01:10 Radfield wrote: The problem is there is no impetus for scum to claim third party. Why not just claim town power role, as that is far easier to pull off. Not to mention that towns absolutely LOVE piling on a confirmed third party. Buying himself an extra day is possible, but if that's his strategy then this is a terrible way to do it. Here's the thing, if iGrok was confirmed Third Party, we would absolutely NOT be lynching him. Thing is, this is a totally bullshit claim, and nothing stacks up in that claim. One thing is for certain, iGrok is certainly not town as no townie would ever make that claim. If no one is willing to back me on Jackal(or Pyo) then we should bring the hammer down on iGrok. Is there a reason you aren't willing to consider Palmar? | ||
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On September 22 2011 21:15 prplhz wrote: oh lulz i see now anyway, i'd still like to hear from igrok who he's gonna shoot since i don't think he should just be able to hide behind popular vote. guy needs to contribute if he wants to be considered town. Why do you want to hear his kill before he does it? Especially if you are saying that he has to be responsible for the shot himself rather than following town. It'll be clear when the day post comes up who he killed. If necessary he can post it after the deadline but before the post, if you want. All this in the unlikely case that he is what he claims. | ||
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On September 22 2011 19:55 Radfield wrote: Partly to see GGQs reaction, but mostly because not everything this game has been going on in thread, as you should be able to tell by the role list so far. There is also no reason to lay out all my reads during the day, as that just clutters and muddies the waters. Fact is, if iGrok is actually third party, then GGQ is most definitely scum. Consider GGQ's contributions this game: Other than cast suspicion on iGrok, he has done nothing but theorycraft and post neutrally. If iGrok is third party and not mafia, which is most likely the case, then GGQ loses his one saving grace(which was medium pressure on potential scum). GGQ went two days without posting and has a total of 4 posts on day 2. The sum total content from those 4 posts is this: and this: If you thought iGrok was so scummy why weren't you pushing him? You pop in, give your opinion, and make no effort do discuss or sway the lynch one way or the other. Read GGQs filter, it won't take long I promise. Exact same thing happened on Day 1, a bunch of posts, obviously around, yet apprx 1 paragraph worth of content. You're obviously around, you're popping in the thread to "defend" yourself, but you still refrain from posting anything useful. Who are you're scum reads, who are you're town reads? You're supposed to be decent yet if you disappeared from this game no one would notice. You need to step it up or die. _______________ Make a case and do some work. You think I'm scum, spell it out then. Filter me, find the scum motivations behind my posting, don't sit back and sling mud. Since your kneejerk scumslip OMGUS on me you have done nothing. You put your vote down on me, and contributed ZERO to the discussion today: You didn't even mention iGrok or Jackal, despite me specifically asking your opinion on them both. The only thing you had to say about Palmar is to write a paragraph explaining why he was a null read, which was just sheeping EXACTLY what i had written several hours earlier. ______ You're right in a way. I'm jumping the gun on GGQ since iGrok very well could still be scum. If that's the case then presumably he actually has done something this game. Not to mention this kind of dictation does nothing for the town. Best way to play this is to treat it as a double lynch: We vote on who we think the best target for the night kill is. This gets everyone down on paper, and encourages discussion during the night: ##Nightkill: Pyo Maybe I should post a shitload of text so I can lead two mislynches like you? Fact is that I'm doing what I can with the time I have. I've made the case on iGrok, it's pretty clear, and the lynch has been deflected two days in a row. It's not my fault that the town is sheeping. Vig iGrok tonight, and we'll be able to move forward tomorrow. We should have a lot to work with when he flips. | ||
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On September 23 2011 00:05 Palmar wrote: yes, that's why he should NOT shoot, and then we hang him tomorrow! Do you believe that iGrok is malicious third party or mafia? Just curious. | ||
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On September 23 2011 10:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't know. I don't know enough about the possible roles in the game to say what's usual and what isn't. We'll see tonight if there's another person put to the sword. I suspect there is a sk out there, but we'll deal with him later. The only real question for right now is whether we want to lynch iGrok today for a sure scum kill or scumhunt someone else (because if we all just vote iGrok it's a pretty shit day phase) and hope we have another vig to take out iGrok. Also, JCarl, I dunno if you saw the message Curu posted for this day, but I assume you are going to claim that you aren't Ugluk? | ||
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On September 24 2011 00:12 chaoser wrote: I added in the son of man, lol. Are we not allowed to embellish now? I paraphrased the rest of it, didn't want to feel the wrath of Curu, especially after his blue post about iGrok's claim. Would it make you sleep better at night if I had said I win when all evil is purged? I'm not a multishot vigi, I can only shoot if certain requirements are fulfilled. This strikes me as very very sketchy. You made a specific decision not to claim your role name even though you are claiming your powers. Instead you replace the role name part with some bullshit phrase. Why do this instead of just claiming the role name? | ||
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