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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 15 2011 16:31 GMT
#85
/in
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 16 2011 21:47 GMT
#129
also fine with that change.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 16 2011 23:53 GMT
#142
On September 17 2011 08:41 GreYMisT wrote:
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On September 17 2011 08:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
From the looks of the OP there will be more than one faction in this game. I don't know much about LoTR lore actually. Are there any neutral characters/factions that might make sense in the context of the game?

I know Tom Bombadil was kind of a neutral figure right? He was just concerned about his forest or whatever


The only neutral figures I can think of (I havnt watched/read LoTR in a long time) are possibly Golom/Smeagal or the Ents.

I feel our best course of action day one has got to be to have whoever is in possession of the One Ring to come out of hiding and give it to me. I'll take good care of it.


No one should just get given the ring especially this early in the game. We should use it in the same fashion that the hallows was used in PTP2.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 00:04 GMT
#146
On September 17 2011 08:56 chaoser wrote:
Let's get this game started!

As always, some general advice:

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1) Town should stay focused. A few talking points should dominate a day cycle but never so many that it's basically everyone posting suspicions on everyone else, leading to "post-by-post analysis" of 5+ people. A disorganized town is a plus for the mafia.

2) Don't rely on power roles. Assume we have none and go from there.

3) Personally I like a bit of civility but I do understand some people like to be aggressive and it has it's uses. But let's keep the atmosphere positive instead of negative. Negative atmosphere will be detrimental to town play and at the end of the day that isn't good.


Point 3 in particular should be on everyone's mind. Palmer really messed town up in the previous game by basically making Day 2 a huge mess with over-aggression and spam. And then basically the only reason mafia was lynched in that game was due to blue power, breaking point 2. Let's NOT bank on blues to win the game this time.

Also, ##vote: Greymist

asking for the ring outright? tsk tsk. My steel and iron comes for you.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Greymist
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 00:26 GMT
#153
On September 17 2011 09:19 GreYMisT wrote:
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On September 17 2011 09:04 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:56 chaoser wrote:
Let's get this game started!

As always, some general advice:

1) Town should stay focused. A few talking points should dominate a day cycle but never so many that it's basically everyone posting suspicions on everyone else, leading to "post-by-post analysis" of 5+ people. A disorganized town is a plus for the mafia.

2) Don't rely on power roles. Assume we have none and go from there.

3) Personally I like a bit of civility but I do understand some people like to be aggressive and it has it's uses. But let's keep the atmosphere positive instead of negative. Negative atmosphere will be detrimental to town play and at the end of the day that isn't good.


Point 3 in particular should be on everyone's mind. Palmer really messed town up in the previous game by basically making Day 2 a huge mess with over-aggression and spam. And then basically the only reason mafia was lynched in that game was due to blue power, breaking point 2. Let's NOT bank on blues to win the game this time.

Also, ##vote: Greymist

asking for the ring outright? tsk tsk. My steel and iron comes for you.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Greymist


Well looks like I succeeded in getting discussion going.
Out of the three people who voted for me immediately, only Dr. H and chaises gave a good reason. Daz, any other reason rather than "I agree," or is your vote a sheep vote?


I actually had stated my reasons regarding the ring earlier I just didn't vote for you then.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 00:39 GMT
#162
On September 17 2011 09:33 Vain wrote:
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On September 17 2011 09:26 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 09:19 GreYMisT wrote:
On September 17 2011 09:04 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:56 chaoser wrote:
Let's get this game started!

As always, some general advice:

1) Town should stay focused. A few talking points should dominate a day cycle but never so many that it's basically everyone posting suspicions on everyone else, leading to "post-by-post analysis" of 5+ people. A disorganized town is a plus for the mafia.

2) Don't rely on power roles. Assume we have none and go from there.

3) Personally I like a bit of civility but I do understand some people like to be aggressive and it has it's uses. But let's keep the atmosphere positive instead of negative. Negative atmosphere will be detrimental to town play and at the end of the day that isn't good.


Point 3 in particular should be on everyone's mind. Palmer really messed town up in the previous game by basically making Day 2 a huge mess with over-aggression and spam. And then basically the only reason mafia was lynched in that game was due to blue power, breaking point 2. Let's NOT bank on blues to win the game this time.

Also, ##vote: Greymist

asking for the ring outright? tsk tsk. My steel and iron comes for you.


I agree with this.

##Vote: Greymist


Well looks like I succeeded in getting discussion going.
Out of the three people who voted for me immediately, only Dr. H and chaises gave a good reason. Daz, any other reason rather than "I agree," or is your vote a sheep vote?


I actually had stated my reasons regarding the ring earlier I just didn't vote for you then.


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On September 17 2011 08:53 Drazerk wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:41 GreYMisT wrote:
On September 17 2011 08:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
From the looks of the OP there will be more than one faction in this game. I don't know much about LoTR lore actually. Are there any neutral characters/factions that might make sense in the context of the game?

I know Tom Bombadil was kind of a neutral figure right? He was just concerned about his forest or whatever


The only neutral figures I can think of (I havnt watched/read LoTR in a long time) are possibly Golom/Smeagal or the Ents.

I feel our best course of action day one has got to be to have whoever is in possession of the One Ring to come out of hiding and give it to me. I'll take good care of it.


No one should just get given the ring especially this early in the game. We should use it in the same fashion that the hallows was used in PTP2.


How the fuck is that a reason?


Hmm thought I had posted something else along side that.

Basically the first people to seek after items in PTP2 was scum since they obviously won't have any members having it for balance reasons.

( And yes we probably can get the whole confirmed townie thing going from who starts with the ring, shame they will instantly die by claiming it though )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 01:40 GMT
#191
On September 17 2011 10:23 Navillus wrote:
God @#$% it I have now rolled VT in literally every &*!@ing game that had it that I have played in >:[ anyways if Drazerk gets to vote people with little to no justification then I do too

##Vote Drazerk



Fine with me... no idea why you would claim VT this early in the game though.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#251
On September 17 2011 16:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Yes. I am.

Give me the ring and I'll find scum for you.


Find scum and we will give you the ring.

Not the other way around.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 09:59 GMT
#254
Looking at it I think WBG is probably lying with his claim and using it as an excuse to post bad and try and get the ring.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 10:32 GMT
#258
On September 17 2011 19:22 xtfftc wrote:
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On September 17 2011 13:37 chaos13 wrote:
On September 17 2011 10:35 xtfftc wrote:

On September 17 2011 09:32 Radfield wrote:

Posts like this(mine) should not be given consideration when you are trying to determine a players alignment.


They definitely should be.


Nope. The entire content of his post was all based on game mechanics. Game mechanics reveal zero about a player's alignment, so if you give people town cred for posting that, the whole mafia team is going to do it and pretty soon you're completely fucked.

Nope. Discussions about game mechanics often reveal bits of information about people's alignment. More importantly, the reactions to these discussions provide information as well. Compared to trolling, discussing lore, speculating about game mechanics and jumping on random people, this is by far the best way to start a proper discussion. Something you seem interested in not doing... Would you say that the current theorycrafting exercise is getting us any closer to catching mafia?

+ Show Spoiler [Pointless theorycrafting] +

As a side note, it would be rather fun if WBG is indeed Gollum and part of his role is asking for the ring in every single post he makes. And I know I just said that theorycrafting gets us nowhere near to catching mafia but I can't help myself. Assuming that Gollum is capable of stealing the ring, we can not afford to kill him, no matter how annoying he becomes. If mafia get the ring, Gollum would likely be our best chance of retrieving it back from them - and we all agree that Sauron or Saruman being in possession of the ring is a really bad situation for town.
Actually, WBG already has two posts that don't mention the ring but perhaps it doesn't have to be every post but he has a quota instead?


I think he is lying and that may of been a slip up ( Like my caller posting restriction in WAW2 )
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 14:13 GMT
#268
It will be suspicious if either of them just fall of the grid and use that as their 5 posts though...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#301
Posting restrictions are definitely in place.

As for me jumping on the gray bandwagon I actually pointed out the ring rubbish before Choaser but I am currently leaning on WBG being the more likely scum member now.

Ill be gone for the next couple of hours so sorry about any sort of inactivity.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#302
On September 18 2011 02:11 Navillus wrote:
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Navillus, I feel as if you're pulling the noob card. This is your 6th game, you should know better than to claim day one. I looked through your older games and couldn't find any other instance where you opened the game with a claim, combined with the fact you decided to sound really angry with the random censored swears, makes me suspicious. Besides the random vote on Drazerk, who do you suspect right now?


6th game != learned anything in 1-5, esp. cause I died really quickly in some and wasn't paying that much attention to most of them so I couldn't really learn. Also you're either lying about looking through my games, or just didn't really try, cause last game I played I opened with basically the same line, a complaint about getting VT yet again (I think it was cosmic horror, if not it was 2 games ago in werewolves but I'm pretty sure it was cosmic horror.)

As to my thoughts, I'm even more skeptical on Drazerk, I had figured that that first vote was pressure, and from what I know Dr. H is a very good vet player so I figured that's exactly what he was doing when he added his vote on, but Drazerk isn't as good as Dr. H, I could see him being scum and thinking that they could actually get a wagon going, then what made me more suspicious is that he completely ducks my vote and instead attacks me.


I didn't attack you I just called you a idiot for claiming VT.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 17 2011 17:33 GMT
#306
since I forgot to do it before I left

##unvote:
##vote: wherebugsgo
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 10:09 GMT
#416
I am busy and just quickly glanced over 1-2 pages but to clear something up -

I can not comment on and posting restrictions I may or may not have just know curu can put them in the game and he probably will have used them.

Saying that WBG is lying about being golum and using it as an excuse to play badly and obtain the ring for scum he doesn't have a posting restriction.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#566
On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr


If this is true Erandorr needs to die.

Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#575
On September 19 2011 07:05 Radfield wrote:
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On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr


If this is true Erandorr needs to die.

Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.



Drazerk why would you assume that Kita is lying when Erandorr basically reposted exactly what Kita said:

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On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way?


This is an absurdly feeble defense. In fact, it's not even a defence, it's a redirect. Of course WBG's posts have been strange, no one can deny that. But plenty of town players have opened games by playing 'poorly' to attract sheep votes and bs votes.... like yours. Does this mean WBG is town? Of course not, but it certainly doesn't make him scum either. Add to the fact that his posting dramatically improved as the day went on and you find someone more likely to be town than scum. If his posting/activity level stays high than he stays, if it deteriorates than we vig him, by no means do we use a lynch on someone who the vast majority of the players think is "probably not mafia but..."


I generally don't trust people anymore.

As for WBG - I still think he is lying about his claim and getting people to go "Leave him it's just gollum who is third party"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:15 GMT
#579
On September 19 2011 07:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:
On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".

##Vote Erandorr


If this is true Erandorr needs to die.

Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.


So nice of you to join us! I hope you enjoyed your lurker vacation.

Seeing as you haven't posted anything about prpl or jackal, I would like to know your thoughts about both of them.



Don't have a strong opinion on either but jackal seems a bit off and I did say that I would be lurking for several hours in advance.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:18 GMT
#583
On September 19 2011 07:14 prplhz wrote:
@drazerk

what you mean you don't trust people anymore? when and who did you ever trust? why did you trust these people in the first place, it seems weird that you trust someone on day1.


I was referring to people in general not just in this game.

the post came up however so

##unvote:
##vote: Erandorr
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 18 2011 22:44 GMT
#605
On September 19 2011 07:43 chaoser wrote:
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On September 19 2011 07:18 supersoft wrote:
sorry guys, i was on the road the whole day and only have my telephone to post today.
i vote iGrok because of the reasons i gave in my last post.


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On September 19 2011 07:39 supersoft wrote:
wait a sec pls i try to catch up. like i said i wasnt avaliable and now i am a bit drunk + i am postin with my iphone.


You got drunk in 21 minutes while on the road posting from your iPhone?


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