• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:21
CEST 10:21
KST 17:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15851 users

Warcraft 2,5 BETA V0.9

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 15:44:21
September 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#1
This project is a fast paced oldschool "standard" RTS modification for Warcraft III The Frozen Throne, that takes place after the 2nd War with the Alliance still fighting the remains of the Orcish Horde. It aims to bring the gameplay of Warcraft2, Starcraft:Broodwar and Armies of Exigo to Warcraft 3.
Some examples of changed gameplay:
- expanding is more important
- most units die faster but also can be produced faster
- new armor/damage system
- micro is similar to Starcraft Broodwar
- macro is more important compared to Warcraft 3
- no heroes are available
- advanced tooltip system
- upgrades need more time to research compared to Warcraft 3
- maps are designed with lots of chokes and cliffs to make positioning more important
- flying dropships are available
- several new models
- foodcap 200
- special naval maps (WIP)
- special maps with underground caves and mercs/creeps (WIP)

Right now only ORC AI is available since Version 0.9m
Undead/Burning Legion is not finished/playable yet

Credits to:Mephestrial,Mr.Goblin, Deolrin, Pyramidhe@d,Dentarg,Drink,Callahan,Mechanical Man,DonDustin,Frankster

Iam still searching for testers, terrainers and AI coders/scripters.
If you are interested in playing or watching some VODS check out these links:

Watching VODS:
Youtube
Meet to play:
Facebook
IRC

Replays:
WCreplays
search for replays uploaded by TaShadan

Download:
moddb

To install this mod follow these instructions:

1. make a copy of your Warcraft III TFT folder and call it Warcraft 2.5
2. extract the wc25mod.rar to this new folder.3. use regedit.exe, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Warcraft III and add "Allow Local Files" with the value 1. Or use the Allowlocal.reg in the wc25mod.rar file.
4. Remember that every player needs the mod to play before you start a game.
5. I never had problems with playing on the official servers, but i assume no liability.

Known issues:If you opponent uses the white Teamcolor you should change the opponents color ingame to red, because right now the Minimap color of your own units/buildings is white too.

Changelog is included in the readme.
Total Annihilation Zero
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3821 Posts
September 10 2011 16:14 GMT
#2
going to download and test later with a friend

but what made me interested the most was the non-widescreen aspect of the video
do you use a widescreen monitor? if yes how did you do it
For the Swarm!
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 16:32:38
September 10 2011 16:16 GMT
#3
no i dont use a widescreen
but i use camtasia and i think you can change the ratio too
Total Annihilation Zero
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 10 2011 16:16 GMT
#4
Wow, great stuff man! Now if I can grab a hold of a tft version , have wc3 vanilla in spanish right now

Hope this gets proper attention from the wc3 community!

BTW, whats the food limit? No upkeep mechanic right?
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 10 2011 16:18 GMT
#5
no upkeep and food limit is 200
Total Annihilation Zero
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 10 2011 16:23 GMT
#6
On September 11 2011 01:18 TaShadan wrote:
no upkeep and food limit is 200

Great! I just wished this mod wouldve been out like 3 years ago!
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 16:29:13
September 10 2011 16:28 GMT
#7
well i started 2 years ago but then i stopped cause of sc2 and it wasnt that good at the beginning
but i think V0.8 is ok and V0.9 will be better
Total Annihilation Zero
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 11 2011 08:28 GMT
#8
tell me what you think after trying it
if you dont like it tell me what you dont like
maybe i can improve it
Total Annihilation Zero
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 11 2011 08:41 GMT
#9
Wouldn't Orc be horrendously underpowered without heroes? Especially in late game where they would get raped by Gryphons, Frost Wyrms or Chimera.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 11 2011 08:44 GMT
#10
no they dont cause i didnt just remove the heroes i changed every unit stats and added some new
Total Annihilation Zero
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
September 11 2011 09:37 GMT
#11
Did you remove Riflemen and Sorceresses? ;/
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 11 2011 09:43 GMT
#12
yes i did
archer/ranger and mages are the "new" one
Total Annihilation Zero
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 15:16:34
September 11 2011 11:36 GMT
#13
Anyway, here are some ideas/units I'd love to see (maybe you could use some of them for UD/NE if our visions of HU and OC differ too much ;p).

UNDEAD

Units

Acolyte:

- Sacrificial Skull - creates a 35 radius of blight (each Acolyte can use it once, the same way each Vulture has 3 Spider Mines); no upgrade required
- Dark Ritual - Acolyte dies and heals 25 HP of every unit within a 25 radius (think of Boron Sacrifice from AoX, just without the Witch); requires an upgrade in Graveyard at tier 2
- Sacrifice - turns Acolyte into Shade (same like in WC3)

Ghoul:

- fast, cheap, more fragile than Footies
- Cannibalize (stats up to balance); requires an upgrade in Crypt at tier 1
- Ghould Frenzy; requires an upgrade at either tier 2 or 3, not sure which one is better

Fiend:

- when killed, spawns 3 Carrion Beetles (temporary, weak and fragile), think of Zerg building in SC2
- Web (now an AoE ability); requires a tier 2 upgrade in Crypt
- Burrow (allows underground movement akin SC2 Roaches); requires a tier 2 uprade in Graveyard

Gargoyle:

- Stone Form (just like in WC3)

Shade:

- True Sight
- Unholy Aura; requires a tier 3 upgrade in Sacrificial Pit
- obviously invisible
- Sleep (like in WC3); tier 2 upgrade required?

Banshee:

- unit available at tier 3
- Frost Nova (like in WC3, although rebalanced - mainly just slows)
- Cursed Tree (upgrade required, think of a combination of Curse tree from AoX and Lurker's damage with Crypt Lord Impale's animation :D)
- Possession (works faster than in WC3); requires an expensive upgrade

Necromancer:

- Raise Dead (like in WC3)
- Spirit Form (like Gaseous Form from AoX)

Meat Wagon:

- like in WC3

Abomination:

- like in WC3

I gotta go now. I'm gonna post more ideas as soon as I'm back. I got hooked.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 12:10:26
September 11 2011 12:07 GMT
#14
thanks for your ideas i will save them and think about it
about the AoE ability: i had the same idea with some other autocast spells like bloodlust but didnt do it yet
btw i was thinking about changing undead to nerubian empire but that would be alot of work and the map gets maybe too big cause of the new models i would need
Total Annihilation Zero
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 08:54:50
September 11 2011 17:50 GMT
#15
NIGHT ELF

Units

Wisp:

- same as WC3

Archer:

- Hide (like in WC3); after Concealment is researched (tier 2, Hunter's Hall) Archers can attack while staying invisible
- the rest like in WC3 (upgrades), although rebalanced

Huntress:

- Hide (same as above)
- Sentinel (like in WC3)
- Blink - works like in SC2, Huntresses can Blink while using Hide, staying invisible the whole time (!); requires a tier 2 upgrade

Glaive Thrower:

- same as in WC3

Dryad:

- same as in WC3
- Gallop - allows Dryads to move faster, while being unable to attack (requires an upgrade at tier 2)

Keeper of the Grove:

- built in AoL
- Eclipse - changes the time from day to night for 15 seconds (default spell)
- Guardian Rune (like the same ability in AoX); upgrade required (researched in AoL at tier 2)
- Tranquility (same as WC3, although nerfed); requires an upgrade in AoL at tier 2

Druid of the Claw:

- like in WC3

Hippogryph:

- like in WC3, including mounting



Enough for now. ;p
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 17:58:26
September 11 2011 17:56 GMT
#16
i allready started with NE but hide is too strong cause you can easily block entrances, but maybe it works if it has to be researched
keeper of the grove is a hero model but i could remove the hero glow
Total Annihilation Zero
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
September 11 2011 18:06 GMT
#17
Maybe make it Hunter's Hall tier 1 upgrade? ;]
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 12 2011 11:09 GMT
#18
maybenexttime if you want to help me we could exchange icq numbers or open an irc channel
Total Annihilation Zero
Elementy
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States183 Posts
September 12 2011 11:47 GMT
#19
i wish i had TFT this sounds fun fun =)) GJ man
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
September 12 2011 14:06 GMT
#20
cant you get it from a friend?
Total Annihilation Zero
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1311
Hyuk 1033
Leta 508
Barracks 484
firebathero 273
PianO 156
Dewaltoss 93
Mong 49
yabsab 16
JulyZerg 10
[ Show more ]
Noble 9
Dota 2
Gorgc3388
League of Legends
JimRising 521
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr51
Other Games
summit1g14234
WinterStarcraft648
XaKoH 188
ViBE97
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream5891
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream3648
Other Games
gamesdonequick537
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH371
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt477
Other Games
• WagamamaTV24
Upcoming Events
GSL
2h 39m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6h 39m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
10h 39m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
15h 39m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.