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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 29 2011 17:37 GMT
#43

/in
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 02:26 GMT
#122
On September 01 2011 11:14 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 10:57 redFF wrote:
On September 01 2011 10:47 Varpulis wrote:
On September 01 2011 10:38 redFF wrote:
not comparing you to kurumi, just noting how your play is similar to your play in kurumi's game when you were scum.

Ah, that.

anything else?

You want me to refute an opinion you have about similarities in my play as scum 3 or 4 games ago, which i obviously don't agree with?

You have given me nothing to refute.


just drop it. No point in even talking about this.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 02:33 GMT
#124
On September 01 2011 09:54 Varpulis wrote:
I have a proposal, for the purpose of maximizing efficiency with our mandated double lynch. For the first day, maybe the first 2, we lynch a scummy person, one of average activity, and the scummiest lurker.

This achieves all of the goals of a day one lynch (lynch somebody who people have given an opinon on and who will give information when/if we see them flip, as per the goal of a normal game), as well as eliminating a lurker.

Lurkers are hard to read and dare i say distracting to the town as the game goes on, so i'd like to take advantage of the tools given to us and get rid of them early.

As the game continues we will have more information to go on, and the chances of us accurately lynching more than one scum are increased, so we can lynch normally.


I think we should follow this
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 02:39 GMT
#127
you cant seriously be this useless
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 02:43 GMT
#129
how is trying to look pro-town a Scummy thing? Likewise, how is posting guidelines for the way you would want the game to proceed Scummy?

Neither are, and neither one is specific enough behavior to even matter.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#144
On September 01 2011 11:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On September 01 2011 11:43 Ace wrote:
how is trying to look pro-town a Scummy thing? Likewise, how is posting guidelines for the way you would want the game to proceed Scummy?

Neither are, and neither one is specific enough behavior to even matter.


Except...it would make sense that he would be "trying to look pro-town" if he were scum. The scum are the ones who would be "trying to look pro-town".

He is posting guidelines that are delightfully obvious. The things he lists are things that should happen in any town, and it's the scum's job to want to make them happen. The people who are town are town. The people who are not town want to look town.

I know you are a good scum hunter, Ace. And I know these are things you know. Why would you be so quick to refute the possibility of scum behavior?


Everyone is trying to look pro-town. It prevents you from getting thought of as lynch bait.

I'm not refuting the possibility of scummy behavior. I'm pointing out that something as inane as "he's trying to look pro-town" isn't going to help us find Scum. Town sided players also tend to look pro-town at times too you know?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 14:22 GMT
#161
why do I sign up for these games
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 01 2011 21:14 GMT
#184
Ace's Journal: Day 1 Entry 1

Behold! A new day! I've just gotten off the ship from the rich town of Senseville and landed in Liquidia. I heard there are endless opportunities for success around here, at least according to the tour guide. However, I've heard some rumors that there are some rather unsavory characters around here. Apparently some fellows think they are above the law, how terrible! I hope the commoners and the police find these bad people and deal with them. If I didn't have business to attend to I'd deal with them myself!

This is just my first entry but I'm sure it won't be my last! Time to see what exciting new things are out there, au revoir!

P.S. - there is a slight lingering smell of something like cheese around here. What is that?

~End~
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 02 2011 11:11 GMT
#245
Ace's Journal: Day 1 Entry 2

My guide pointed me into the direction of a forested area on the island of Liquidia. It took me days but clearing most of the woods I have found something interesting. I appear to have stumbled onto some primitive pulpit the commoners refer to as "The Village Square". Evil is afoot, and by god they are trying to find the vermin! How sad it is to see them accuse each other to the death over crumbs, squabbling like rats on a sinking ship. Some of these commoners are even shadier than others. Even worse, some of the jubjubs are saying who they think is surely innocent and the trial just started! Oh dear, I better stick around and see how his turns out. A few of these commoners do have some smarts though. I better pay extra attention to them.

~End~
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 02 2011 19:12 GMT
#278
stop giving reads on every player in the game. It's fucking useless.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 02 2011 19:30 GMT
#281
## Vote Varpulis
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 02 2011 20:13 GMT
#297
## vote chaos13

Let chaos reign!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 03 2011 00:42 GMT
#368
Coroner, I know you have a pretty tricky job to do but I'm going to help you out. Since you can't communicate with me I'll just give you a name:

Check the corpse of Sinani. If you dont say anything once the corpse is checked, I will take your silence as confirmation of Sinani's innocence. That way the priest can revive him knowing he is town aligned.

Otherwise take the chance and speak out if you find Sinani to be Scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 03 2011 01:14 GMT
#380
On September 03 2011 09:57 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On September 03 2011 09:23 OriginalName wrote:
On September 03 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK MAFIA KP IS 3


We dont know that for sure. Settle down there is probably more going on right now than is clear to us.


Im pretty sure mafia kp was 3. I figured there might be 5 or 6 mafia in the game. So, assuming I was right, that means we either hit 1 or 0 scum with lynches. I'm hoping we hit 1. The double lynch plus no nights into 3 mafia kp makes deaths very fast. We can assume 2 will come back today with resurrect + reanimate. Idk, it's all kind of overwhelming...



Ace's Journal Day 2 Entry 1

One of the creatures shows a fascinating infatuation with mathematics. How amazed was I see to see it draw the number "5" in the sand, using only his left pinky toe at that!. Sadly, when I tried to communicate with the cretin, it showed no ability at reason or logic, and quickly defecated on the figure it made, grinning at me like some impetuous demon. Intriguing if I dare say.

~End~
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 03 2011 01:58 GMT
#393
## vote redff
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 03 2011 15:22 GMT
#422
impossible. If sinani is scum then their KP wouldn't be reduced the same night because that would be bad modding or a totally different mechanic we aren't aware of. Scum don't lose KP on a night one of their members die, it always goes into effect for the next night.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 03 2011 15:55 GMT
#428
On September 04 2011 00:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 00:22 Ace wrote:
impossible. If sinani is scum then their KP wouldn't be reduced the same night because that would be bad modding or a totally different mechanic we aren't aware of. Scum don't lose KP on a night one of their members die, it always goes into effect for the next night.


I would want confirmation on this from iGrok. Cuuuuuuz that's stupid. If we killed a scum, that sucks for them, but we killed a scum. The rules say mafia kp is n/2. If we lynch a scum, that reduces scum numbers.


o wait I forgot sinani died by lynch, not night kill. Nevermind.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 03 2011 16:20 GMT
#430
I dont give out my reads until I feel it's necessary.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 00:18 GMT
#464
Good god you people are fucking stupid.

Why are you asking everyone for their Town and Scum reads? Think past your ass for 5 minutes here. It's a no flip game, no information roles except ONE is revealed in the OP, and you aren't sure of the Mafia count.

What the fuck is anyone's Town reads going to accomplish right now but to clutter the thread and lead to bullshit? Secondly telling everyone your town reads opens up to Scum manipulation. Your votes can't criss cross your Town reads or you'll be called out by any decent Scum reading the thread. You shouldn't give your Town reads early because the Mafia can see what players don't have strong support, leading to the easy sheepish behavior by the Town to lynch the person with the least friends.

Stop doing it.

Stop talking about "Town tells, Scum tells, and Null tells". Not one of you have a fucking clue how to use them. Makes my heard hurt reading posts by some moron trying to fit a square peg in a round hole while he has monkey shit on his face.

Stop talking about the balance of the Scum team. You don't know how iGrok chose to pick teams, and even f you got an inkling it's not going to get you very far. Likewise, stop trying to say "if this guy is Scum the this one has to be". Are you dumb? We dont have any flips yet, and get them one at a time. You've got to be retarded to speculate on something that even in normal setups takes some voting wagons and post analysis to figure out.

Now on to some real scum hunting since I left you jubjubs alone and see that you still suck like shit. Amazingly the ability to read and reason hasn't improved in 2 months. redFF's claim is probable. but not likely. I'm going to do this in TWO ways. Just follow sit back and take a seat, and dont drool on my chair.

The main issue with redFF's claim is this:

On September 03 2011 10:32 redFF wrote:
im secret coroners apprentice, checked varp and sinani both town ressurect sinani plz.


On September 03 2011 10:32 redFF wrote:
i become coroner if coroner dies


On September 04 2011 07:05 redFF wrote:
im secret coroners apprentice, i can check twice a day.


On September 04 2011 07:29 redFF wrote:
i got both alignment and roles, revive sinani over varp.

i dont have any checks left tho, since im just a reserve coroner, not a full blown one.


Back up roles never work like this, and this would be borderline criminal. First of all backup roles aren't used much because it penalizes the Scum team for performing well. The only instance of backup roles I ever see is when the Town success hinges on that one role. It is possible that there is a backup Coroner in the setup. But the backup role is always an exact copy of the original role - never more powerful.

Check it out:




Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).


How is it that the back up Coroner can check 2 people while the original can only check one? This doesn't seem right.

Secondly if you really are the backup Coroner tell us both people you checked out, the alignments and the roles. You haven't exactly revealed this information easily and this is a major reason why I don't believe you. Even assuming there is an imbalanced backup Coroner role like you said, this would mean you aren't actually thinking about how the game works. Check it:

Resurrected Players will live until they are killed again.


If you revealed the roles, at worst you'd let them be able to use their powers and get killed again. However, you just outed your own self as the back up Coroner. Just thinking things through for more than 10 seconds after seeing THREE people die wouldn't it make sense for you to show some restraint? Thats exactly why I posted this earlier:

On September 03 2011 09:42 Ace wrote:
Coroner, I know you have a pretty tricky job to do but I'm going to help you out. Since you can't communicate with me I'll just give you a name:

Check the corpse of Sinani. If you dont say anything once the corpse is checked, I will take your silence as confirmation of Sinani's innocence. That way the priest can revive him knowing he is town aligned.

Otherwise take the chance and speak out if you find Sinani to be Scum.


You could have just bandwagoned this point and made it a big priority. You wouldn't have had to out yourself, and the priest who should be reading the fucking thread would understand - Sinani is innocent because the Coroner never spoke out again him.

Your actions just don't add up for an actual Coroner or Town aligned player that would be thinking for more than 2 minutes. I don't believe you could actually be this stupid (well, maybe) so I'm calling your claim bullshit.



Varpulis has been killed (lynch).
sinani206 has been killed (lynch).
Drazerk has been killed.
Jackal58 has been killed.
Snkowman has been killed.


Of the people you checked, 2 died by lynch which above all else are Town influenced lynches. 3 people died by Night Kill which above all else are almost certainly Scum influenced.

But you checked the people that were lynched.

Bullshit.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 00:31 GMT
#471
If you are sure no Townies shot last night, then the 3 dead players were all killed by Scum. Hence, you'd check them to confirm them being Town like you said. Lets keep the logic train going here.

The only reason you'd check Sinani or Varp is to see if they were Scum lynched by the Town. Right? That means you'd speak out if you found them to be Scum.

But you found Sinani to be Town. Why would you speak out on this when I already showed a way to not reveal yourself. You said it yourself - the real Coroner died. You just saw 3 people get capped. Why reveal yourself?

It doesn't add up on both accounts. I dont believe you are this stupid. You would have to know you are going to be killed if this holds, ending the game for the Town. You'd die, and even if Sinani is Coroner he'd die immediately. Between the 2 of you, you would only get off 3 checks by Day 3. Game over.

I can't take your claim seriously. The real Coroner would not Counter Claim in this situation because it's not LYLO so it would be dumb. A Real Cop doesn't CC Scum claiming Cop unless the Town is seriously buying it and will lynch a Townie. No one is getting lynched over your claim so the Coroner has no reason to Counter Claim. Or he's dead.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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