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nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 17 2011 23:51 GMT
#63
/in
sup
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 19 2011 11:42 GMT
#242
good morning!

On August 19 2011 13:51 hiro protagonist wrote:
this game started all ready?

Palmar is scum.

See you in the morning!


lol! hiro and I are damaged from last mini mafia where palmar singlehandedly won the game :D
hey to both of you.

regarding the early accusations: i see nothing yet which lets me believe we have a scum for certain. but i am damaged from last mini mafia: if dropbear ever dies and turns out to be not scum, Palmar is on my hit list :D
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 19 2011 20:12 GMT
#325
we have exactly 24h left to decide on our first lynch and so far i can't see any valid reasoning who to lynch.

Palmar: do you have any reasonable logic on why to lynch dropbear? you accused brownbear for a while in between, but you switched back to DB. Why??

Lucidity: what did you expect from telling everybody you're a townie?

Kurumi: would you kindly stop playing random question/answer games in this thread? please don't tell me its a ingenious tactic to find mafia..

supersoft: agressive much? nearly every post of you was an accusation so far without any proper reasoning behind it. your post relating to me included 2 unrelated parts of my post and you twisted em together to create a new meaning - accident or not?


and whats up with all that mayor stuff. i don't like having the fate of the lynch in the hands of one guy who might be scum. a big fat no to that until someone can tell me why we should need it (explanations so far were... lacking).

anyway its hard to keep track of everything, PLEASE reduce the non-relevant spam (hey kurumi) to a minimum!
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 20 2011 03:39 GMT
#369
ffs don't vote palmar on day 1. do you think scum would behave that way?
we have way more interesting candidates imo.

1. servyn, for obvious reasons. no need to repeat it the 5th time

2. foolishness, why do you think Mig's post is more scummy than the last few posts of servyn? i kinda understand why the post sounds scummy as it adds nothing new and tries to convince, but what is your opinion about servyn then?

3. mig, foolishness has a point which shouldn't be forgotten.

4. dropbear, i have no idea. curious though. of course he was pushed in the defensive most of the day but didnt give anything scummy away during that. that mayor suggestion was weird though.

5. hiro protagonist, waiting to read more posts from you as you're one of the very few people in the game i know from before. so far you posted just the bare minimum.. :3

regarding "pressuring": do it more carefully please or: don't throw your votes around because of some lesser scummy part you see in a post and retract them 30 minutes later. this made the thread pretty messy already which helps scum more than town.
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 20 2011 18:18 GMT
#452
anyone care to write up the current vote situation? we need to focus our votes, a no-lynch would be the worst outcome today. I'd do it myself but have only ~40 mins left until i leave the house for today and i prefer eating dinner over re-reading the whole thread

from reading the last few pages the current lynch options which have a chance of reaching 50% seem to be brownbear and sevryn. palmar is still being attacked by some - please stop voting for him because he used a... different tactic to get responses on day1 (i ask you to reduce your tunneling though - it's not a helpful playstyle over a longer period). he is not a good choice for a day 1 lynch.

now, to decide between brownbear and sevryn:
sevryn's case has been made, but sadly this quote is so true:
Yeah his reasons are pretty stupid. Guess what: townies are usually way more stupid than mafia.

he cornered himself in a bad spot early on - i'm looking forward to his next posts after not answering ~5 pages of accusations against him. this can wait until day 2 or 3 though - i want to see more posts of him before a possible lynch.
Palmar's case against brownbear is reasonable, especially the part about diverting his vote to JeeJee out of (nearly) nothing. why JeeJee instead of one of the many other inactives? also brownbear seems to not really get Palmar's intention with his tunneling - it's not about the tunneling ("pressuring", lol) but the responses from the pressured person as well as other responses to the over-the-top tunneling.

i will check the thread after dinner again and put my vote, so far im inclined to vote brownbear - i want to see that voting list beforehand though to make sure we get a lynch today.
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 20 2011 18:19 GMT
#453
i started writing that post when we were still on page22 btw 8(
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 20 2011 18:56 GMT
#471
ooooh there is a voting thread ,_,

On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote:
perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself.


whats the matter with you twisting around my posts? what do we get from lynching him today? the case against him will be the same tomorrow. also if you read my post again (try it a bit slower this time) i reasoned against it because if he is indeed mafia, any additional post from him will help dig mafia's grave.

as the situation didn't change too much since my last post and we have a whole lot of people on sevryn already i will support the votes for brownbear to make a last minute change at least possible - i plead you to read the case against him and his posts again and think again.

##vote BrownBear
see you at night!
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 20 2011 19:00 GMT
#473
one last addition: hiro protagonist voted sevryn one minute before me in the voting thread, without adding anything of substance over the whole day. you were an active user in the previous game i played with you - why the big change?
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 20 2011 19:01 GMT
#474
and there is his post \o/
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 00:40 GMT
#1354
just caught up reading the thread - WTF has happened to town? DB, your move was really.. useless. i will filter you later, but now we have to get our things together.

first off there are only 2 viable lynch targets for tonight: Mig and hiro protagonist. Palmar, if you would mind stopping to start another band wagon for a 3rd, please save it for tomorrow.

2nd: lets get a roll call going. i will be around for the next hour or so. when does the day end? 10 or 11 KST?

depending on how much time is left i will analyze both hiro and mig now, starting with hiro. filtering now..
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 01:08 GMT
#1390
here are my notes on hiro, will read up on Mig now. i have no idea what agenda hiro is pushing, except a way to obvious scummy one.

Hiro:
-tries to get a bandwagon for rayzor going, but does not pursue it on day2, saying there are better targets today but not naming em:

also, I dont think Razor is a good lynch today, there are more important suspects to look at.


1. Where did I say that I dont find him scummy? I said there are better targets today.


-lots of one-liners, asking questions but refuting to answer questions directed at him (before he got pressured)

-only real case he makes is against DB after fake DT claim, lame arguments though
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=43447&user=43447

-jumps back to sheepmode in a ridiculous way, makes only sense for someone desperate
On August 24 2011 05:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
Wow, Ok, no one likes that idea. does everyone think Im stupid?

##Unvote: DropBear

Im just gonna sheep whoever is the highest vote is by the end of the day.


-defends Mig and is all around the place:
I think Mig is a bad lynch. his defense against foolishness is very good. Also, xtfftc is of my intrest as well. no one wants to lynch DB for whatever reason. it might be a good time to lynch a lurker.

Or Erandorr, I would be down for lynching this guy.

4-8 accusations without anything backing it up, and 13 minutes later full switch on Mig
On August 24 2011 07:20 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, Palmar has convinced me. also, its not like I have much choice in the matter.

##Vote [red]Mig


I would still rather lynch Razorflash, but I can see how that most likely wont happen.

Adds another accusation on top lol

-offers to vote himself to get a lynch… if he is scum he won’t follow through, if he is town he shouldn’t do it just to get a confirmed , dead townie.

-instant switch to chaos13 after palmar proposal without him ever typing out his name before..

-vet claim just before night? Even though he himself wrote before:

claims that cannot be confirmed must never happen

nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 01:41 GMT
#1408
i filtered Mig, and i'm kinda confused why he is on the main target list for today.

Mig:
Day1:
-makes a small case based on meta against chaoser, jumps on servyn after seeing its going nowhere
Day2:
-keeps on pressuring chaoser
-low activity, burnout excuse after being pressured a lot.
-makes a good case against DB (before DT claim) while still on the defensive – reread case tomorrow - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11024013

-???

due to the filter i only read Migs posts without the unquoted accusations against him, but his play makes sense for town. is it some meta argument against him? i will re-read his case against DB tomorrow, together with everything else surrounding DB. can someone link me the main case against Mig?

##vote hiro protagonist
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 01:43 GMT
#1410
On August 24 2011 10:14 supersoft wrote:
tank you for confirming my accusation on you. You're 100% scum as well as xtfftc.
This town plays horribly, I don't know why everyone only listens to the fucking scumteam.
I am okay with lynching xtfftc, chaos13, Kurumi and nard.

But I won't lynch hiro. Even if I provoke a no lynch. I don't want to be the scumteams instrument to kill another poor townie for a horrible reason.


you're freaking hilarious. has there been a post from me which you didn't quote and reply a "you're 100% scum okthx" without ANY reasoning behind it? i guess i can be lucky that you decided to quote me instead of twisting my words around like you did with my first post.

hiro: a self-vote? why in heavens.. this makes no sense from any perspective at all. if you are town, try to defend yourself properly instead of making sure you get lynched. if you're scum... do the same lol.
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 02:13 GMT
#1438
4:13am can't sleep give day post plx
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 02:26 GMT
#1445
.. what a dumb hiro is more like it.
you played a more convincing town when you were scum in our last mini mafia -_-
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 24 2011 02:32 GMT
#1448
going to sleep now. we have a whole bunch of people who are worth discussing. day3 cannot be the same chaos as today. i will look into DB, BB, Vain and Lucidity. Also i'd love to see a proper case made against Mig from someone who pressured him today as well as a rehash on the case against xtfftc. i guess its time to reread the whole thread.. :[
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 26 2011 15:44 GMT
#1683
voting brownbear, i should be back online 1-2 hours before the deadline if you need my vote for a majority on Mig.
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 27 2011 18:56 GMT
#1809
sorry for not being there on time to switch votes as promised - will do better next time. i caught up with the thread and saw a bunch of suspicions about me. i will be online and active tomorrow afternoon CET to get some rereading done and answer your questions.
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 27 2011 18:58 GMT
#1810
i will even respond to you supersoft, under 1 condition: make a coherent accusation
nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
August 28 2011 11:56 GMT
#1883
Liquidite- Welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Lysander, the retired paladin, you used to be one of the toughest people around, exterminating cults, killing deamons, and generally fighting evil. That was a long time ago though, by now the arthritis has set in and your old wounds ache, not to mention the fact you are constrained to a wheelchair. Still, the true power of a paladin is in his iron will, and you still have that. Your unflinching resolve and your vote shall be your weapons against the cult.

so i guess i'm a nosy neighbor? of course anything i say now is kinda suspicious.please think it through though - a third townie lynch will hurt us so bad i don't think we can recover from it. do we have some other way of confirming me? maybe chaoser or better, somebody unclaimed as chaoser won't survive for long i guess.
anyway like i wrote yesterday, i will be actively monitoring the thread in the following hours and am ready to respond to your stuff.
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