EPT2 at once is nothing. What happened to Pony Mafia, bro?
TL Mafia XLIV
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Varpulis
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2 at once is nothing. What happened to Pony Mafia, bro? | ||
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Varpulis
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Just warning everybody in advance. | ||
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Varpulis
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Varpulis
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why is kenpachi smurfing as lucidity? | ||
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Varpulis
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a post doesn't have to be huge to make a point. Please be concise, everybody. | ||
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Varpulis
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just sayin. When you vote, vote for scum. Vote with the intention of lynching whoever you're voting for. Don't just mindlessly vote for people for "pressure," and if you are, for the love of god don't tell the person that you're voting for that it's pressure. | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 19 2011 18:56 Erandorr wrote: Oh and concerning bandwagon votes, you realize that I had posted NOTHING up until now , so isn't it in fact bandwagon if you decide to vote on someone after a couple of hours just because palmar said so? why so defensive bro? | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 19 2011 19:16 Palmar wrote: lol guys, DB is obvious scum. could you give me a reason to believe you? | ||
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Varpulis
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no better and no worse than about half the posts in this game. I don't have a problem with anything he said. | ||
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Varpulis
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lol Sevryn. sheeping on palmar's bullshit wagon because he was town in SH Mafia? Being right in the past does not mean he's right now. Evaluate each case on its merits, not based on how good at mafia you think the accuser is. | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 20 2011 03:30 DropBear wrote: There is the option of the "mayor" to be the one who switches to ensure a lynch, as opposed to them telling other people to change. If we have someone designated then it reduces last second shenanigans. Would this be more palatable? do we need to elect that lol? If you want to switch your vote to make sure that somebody dies feel free, and be prepared to be held responsible for the results. On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote: Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right... did you miss my post where i said pressure votes are bad? Get out of jail free card for scum looking to hop onto an easy bandwagon. If you get called out "no it's ok it was just pressure" | ||
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Varpulis
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This is a bad assumption. Townies can be wrong, townies can disagree. The key is to see how the guy is defending him. Is he being wishy washy? is his post overly safe? Are there obvious logical fallacies? with that said, supersoft's summary post accomplishes nothing and is pretty damn wishy washy. "I see innocence... however that doesn't mean he's town" does not compute. | ||
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Varpulis
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filter his posts. Now tell me if a single one is productive and helpful. He blindly tunnels DropBear based on meta (i think, it's such a terrible accusation though that it's not worth trying to figure out), then calls everybody who disagrees with him scum. Chaos13 makes a very good point: On August 20 2011 10:14 chaos13 wrote: Palmar as town is The Brother Leader and Guide of Town. I see absolutely none of that here. So far all he has done is cause mayhem and spam and disorganization and a generally very unhelpful pro-mafia atmosphere. if i recall correctly, town won that game, largely due to the organization that palmar provided. Why change a good strategy? Because his goals are different in this game. | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 20 2011 11:11 Palmar wrote: Anyone who thinks I'm promoting pro-mafia atmosphere needs to have his head checked. I took this thread and turned it from discussing vague plans and policies to a full-out scumhunting festival. by calling dropbear scum 20 times in a row? | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 20 2011 16:35 Foolishness wrote: I would also like to beg to differ that I'm "defending" him. I'm not convinced yet that he's mafia, and I stated why I think that. Thus I'd rather take the wait and see approach. As I somewhat said, he's already got a few strikes; if he doesn't shape up then we kill him. Just because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt right now does not mean I am defending him. I don't defend other people, I state why or how their actions could be misconstrued. On August 20 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote: hmm, sevryns behavior had something innocent in my eyes i don't know... Somehow I tend to buy that story... I mean the whole thing started like that: Basic situation: He knew Palmar from former games; and we all know that palmar played some good games for town recently - Palmar accuses DB; I jump on that wagon but declare it as a pressurevote. Varp shows up, says pressurevotes only work if you don't say it's a pressurevote (i 75% agree with that statement) Now the poor sevryn sees all this: he also wants to contribute something by pressurevoting, so he fakes his reason and follows varps advice and gets caught immediately... However that doesn't mean he's town. If he flips scum i know who to look at next, which makes this a very good lynch. It provides information and has a good a shot as any at getting scum. Why he's scummy has been covered before, but in short, he made an absolutely bullshit vote then called it pressure when he got called out for it: + Show Spoiler [quotes] + On August 19 2011 23:39 Sevryn wrote: Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie ## vote DropBear sheeping vote and trusting Palmar unconditionally On August 20 2011 00:56 Sevryn wrote: His play was basicly them same in that game so I'm inclined to belive him do you have a better target? defending his sheeping vote On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote: Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game. backing out of his vote, calling it pressure, and defending his bullshit by saying it was intentional. And now he's lurking hardcore. verdict: SCUM ##vote sevryn + Show Spoiler + also his name is fucking impossible to spell  | ||
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Varpulis
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##vote Rayzorflash was at a dinner party, Would rather kill Rayzor than sevryn at this point. | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 21 2011 10:31 Vain wrote: Ok, i think i'm gonna vote on Rayzorflash. I just don't believe a scum would vote that fast. No, wait scrap that.Sevryn voted as 3rd for DropBear. you can say what you want about his defence but he only started with the "pressure vote" after people asked what he was doing and that counts to me more than anything. steam of thought posts are not appreciated, please make your posts readable and understandable. | ||
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Could a vig please kill lucidity? he's emulating Kenpachi, and managing to be less helpful. Completely unreadable and unhelpful, and yet he's not under and pressure or getting any attention. I'd like him gone, ASAP. With that said, I'm going to vote Mig, who i have a more confident read on. He's defending himself by saying that meta arguments are bad while at the same time attacking Chaoser for meta reasons. On August 22 2011 17:51 Mig wrote: Chaoser you are technically correct but really you are twisting my words around to try and make me appear scummy. Not all meta arguments are the same, you didn't see me disagreeing with other meta arguments foolish had made in the thread. But his meta argument about how my "attitude" was different and therefore mafia was incorrect. He provided no examples of me acting that way as mafia and that attitude hadn't done anything to hurt the town. My meta argument against you was completely different. As town I have seen you dominate and put a ton of effort into scum hunting. This game I see you writing complete fluff posts and providing no analysis while making an excuse for being busy. Anyone can look at your play in mafia 39 and see how different it is compared to this game. Foolishness' meta argument didn't show one way or the other whether I was town and it didn't show how I was harming the town with my play however your play style is a complete 180 from your normal town play and is considerably worse than normal for you. So instead of providing any real analysis this game you started off with A) writing fluff posts B) voted for me basically just saying yea I agree with foolish then disappeared before the lynch and now C) you are twisting my words around to make me appear scummy when it should be obvious how different my argument was from the one foolish made. #Vote: chaoser ##vote Mig | ||
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Varpulis
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And as a MEDIC? I suggest we let the mafia deal with them. If they leave him alive to make him seem suspicious, we have a medic for town to control. Get a dt to check him, and bob's your uncle. | ||
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