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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 02:03 GMT
#17
/in. I'm big on gluttony.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 00:07 GMT
#66
On August 18 2011 08:36 GMarshal wrote:
Foolishness is being indecisive, he must be scum!

You're calling out Foolishness. You must be scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 02:31 GMT
#74
On August 18 2011 09:17 chaoser wrote:
what a chainsaw defense jackal. scum

Tunnels chaoser all of day 1 and 2.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 20:06 GMT
#101
/Confirm. Great Day Post GMan.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 20:12 GMT
#107
On August 19 2011 05:10 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 05:08 GreYMisT wrote:
On August 19 2011 05:07 Curu wrote:
So, Foolishness confirmed as Town Vet? Discuss.


Im not sure that 6 for 1 trade was good for us. sure killing the demon is good, but throwing one of our mods into the depths of hell?


Cool, but what I actually asked was what do you think of the chances of Foolishness (he's actually in this game) as being the Town Vet?

Non existent.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#114
On August 19 2011 05:27 Curu wrote:
So, what thought process goes on in your head when you decide to claim Vanilla Townie with your first post?

He's obviously a Kenpachi disciple.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#125
On August 19 2011 06:01 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 05:51 Mig wrote:
Kurumi are you going to be useful or troll kurumi this game?

Let's play a game. You win, I don't, You lose, I do.
You are in a room. It has thick, cold and bare walls. One of them is made of unbreakable glass. There is a sandvich and bonk! energy drink behind it. You are very thirsty and very hungry. You have a crowbar, flamethrower and 30 pieces of shuriken. What do You do to get the food?

Put a dollar in the machine and push the right buttons.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 21:16 GMT
#130
On August 19 2011 06:10 chaoser wrote:
sup jackal, long time no see ^_^ What do you think about Lucidity and Curu? Just trying to get conversation started or something more sinister?

Curu trying to start a convo on a Day post hiccup that GMarshall wasn't going to let go on. No biggy there I don't think. Lucidity is obviously a student of Kenpachi.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#146
On August 19 2011 07:45 Curu wrote:
Being careful not to talk too much is the mark of someone who has guilt on their mind. Townies have nothing to hide and so should never be afraid to talk as long as it isn't stupid useless stuff spamming up the thread.

It's also a sign of intimidation and uncertainty on how to proceed. The best way to keep noobs engaged is to ask them questions. Let them know that we value their opinion and nobody is going to jump on them for being a noob.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 23:20 GMT
#150
On August 19 2011 08:12 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 08:06 chaos13 wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:03 xtfftc wrote:
Surely the Mafia is aware that open discussion is the ordinary citizens' strongest weapon and are thus likely to target those who are unafraid to speak their minds? A dictator always targets the means of communication: the media, the internet, etc.


Yes. Does that mean we should all lurk? No. If everybody discusses in a productive way, mafia will have trouble blending in and providing the same level of constructive input, and suddenly those extremely pro-town players don't become such high profile targets, because everyone is joining in to an equal degree.

I agree, of course. If the whole population takes part in the democracy process, the people become too powerful to be messed with. But it often takes just one ordinary citizen to show signs of cowardice - and suddenly we see a snowball effect affecting the whole town.

This is a fucking game. You don't die for real.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 16:49 GMT
#276
On August 20 2011 01:43 Palmar wrote:
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On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p


how about you vote the crazy australian with a cricket bat instead?

I think it was the crazy Icelander with a snow shovel.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 16:57 GMT
#280
On August 20 2011 01:53 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 01:49 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:43 Palmar wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p


how about you vote the crazy australian with a cricket bat instead?

I think it was the crazy Icelander with a snow shovel.


hey, do you buy nards story, that he's "damaged" from a former game and therefor not suspecting anyone?

No. Looked like a joke to me.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 13:38 GMT
#397
On August 20 2011 18:05 Barundar wrote:
Palmar, what exactly make you go from DB is scum to Brown Bear is scum? Seems like someone just disagreed with you and you decided to give up your case for another player to argue with. Combined it doesn't make your cases believable.

Anybody that disagrees with Palmar is scum.

And I'm really hoping your advice to not do PBP was a joke.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 15:22 GMT
#410
On August 20 2011 23:38 chaos13 wrote:
We're gonna derp ourselves into a useless no-lynch today if this keeps up. This thread is a mess. I'm not sure on who thinks what of who any more because things are so muddled up with accusations everywhere and a complete lack of clarity in communication.
Again, who started this? Palmar.

Let's take a brief look at the sevryn bandwagon. Did it build up quickly? Has there been any noticeable defense that appears flimsy or false or nervous? I don't think he's scum.

Jackal, who do you think is mafia and why?

Palmar. He's playing his "I'm so town it hurts" persona he had in PTP2.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 19:31 GMT
#479
Apologies for my lack of participation. I've been out with my wife today.

I have reread all of Sevryns posts and I don't see anything as being particularly scummy in them. What I don't like is his disappearance when the heat began to be turned up on him.

I still think Palmar is scum but I'm pretty sure I can't convince anybody of that atm so I'm going to vote for the guy he give .2% chance of being scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 20:44 GMT
#492
On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote:
Man this is a touch choice

Which choice is that?

I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance.

How much time is remaining?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 20:57 GMT
#497
On August 15 2011 04:58 RayzorFlash wrote:
/in ... My first Mafia game, but I've been doing the research and it seems fun :D


Somebody is being coached.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...




On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:48 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will Yu get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


Just re-read hist posts.. he's using lots of words to basically say kill lurkers. Complete null-read, everyone of any alignment will agree to this. When he starts contributing opinions on players, we'll see.

So You admitted that Navillus is only posting fluff so he looks like he is contributing without contributing? "everyone of any alignment" part is budging me.


Yep, but what else are you gonna do in the beginning? Everything starts from fluff. If fluff continues, it's a different story of course.
P.S. would totally appreciate it if you stopped capitalizing 'you'

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...


how so?


It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum...




On August 19 2011 13:42 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:00 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:48 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
[quote]

ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


Just re-read hist posts.. he's using lots of words to basically say kill lurkers. Complete null-read, everyone of any alignment will agree to this. When he starts contributing opinions on players, we'll see.

So You admitted that Navillus is only posting fluff so he looks like he is contributing without contributing? "everyone of any alignment" part is budging me.


Yep, but what else are you gonna do in the beginning? Everything starts from fluff. If fluff continues, it's a different story of course.
P.S. would totally appreciate it if you stopped capitalizing 'you'

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
[quote]
See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...


how so?


It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum...


What does this have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why you think navi's actions are highly strange and suspicious?

And there shouldn't be "inevitably .. a lot of townies in the lurker list", why would there be? Are you going to lurk?

And why did you call this game full of lurkers?

Wtf this post just raised so many questions


I said in my previous post how having us waste KPs on lurkers would further scum agenda, and thats why I think the actions seem suspicious, especially considering that we know there are a lot of new players here, and scum do too.

New players generally have more a tendency to lurk, or become inactive, and thus, if we put together a lurker list, there WILL be a fairly large amount of people on it. This is especially true if they're townies or blues, as if they're mafia they will try their hardest to stay OFF that list...

I think its NOT a good idea to just declare that everyone start killing off lurkers, unless there is actually a REASON to kill them, not just because they're lurking. Its a double-edged sword for sure, it does make the cultists come out and have to participate, which might reveal them, but it also runs the risk of killing a lot of townies...

If we want to put together a lurker list, by all means do it, I just hope we exercise a little bit of restraint and use the kills given good reasons, since we don't want to make this EASIER for the mafia



On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



On August 20 2011 13:32 RayzorFlash wrote:
I'm sticking with my vote on Sevryn unless something ridiculously obvious jumps out in the next 24 hours... I think by far that he has had the scummiest behaviour, both in terms of the vote, and then the defensive roll-back after he was called out on it...

I'm hesitant on Palmar just because he's been creating a far from ideal first Day in here... He contributed the main talking point sure, but his argument for that talking point was very weak... However, Dropbear has definitely acted a bit suspicious and got overly defensive, and the mayor idea seems scummy because he recommended himself for it right off the bat...

Those 3 seem like the major suspects this first day... I think (at least) ONE of Palmar or DropBear is definitely a scum, and if we start nearing a majority on either of them I will switch my vote from Sevryn and get him at a later date... I am most definitely voting for one of those 3 though



On August 21 2011 04:55 RayzorFlash wrote:
Supersoft, you seem to be trying wayyyy too hard to get Sevryn not lynched... Since the start you've tried putting up 3-4 different reasons to direct the vote away from Sevryn, first with a weak defense, then when called out on the defense being wishywashy, you quickly backtracked on it and said that you were just pointing out how anyone could have done that, and immediately started pressuring Xtfftc.

While Xtfftc has definitely acted suspiciously, I see it as more suspicious that you (and Palmar, to a degree) were the two who along with Sevryn caused the pressure-vote issue at the start of the game anyway, and that you (and Palmar, to a degree ) are working so hard to get attention away from Sevryn and on to other people.

At this point, I would expect scum to just leave Sev to defend himself since they wouldnt want to get caught defending him, and try to either set-up a subsequent lynch away from them, or try to redirect attention away from him entirely.

Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation.

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 21:04 GMT
#499
Ask your scum buddies
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 22:03 GMT
#505
On August 21 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote:
i'd be totally down with lynching RayzorFlash

You're totally down with lynching everybody.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 22:49 GMT
#515
On August 21 2011 07:15 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote:
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:

(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


It stands for "Wine in front of me" its from the movie princess bride. Though i dont understand it completely myself, its a situation that arises that is confusing because of circular logic, for example if bob is being tunneled and the person tunneling him dies at night, you could say well he must be mafia. but the mafia would want you to think that so what if they killed the tunneller to frame bob. but what if bob knew that....

if anyone has an explination that makes more sense please post it





Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:44 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote:
Man this is a touch choice

Which choice is that?

I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance.



I'm confused. What do you mean by this? What exactly has changed that would warrant you changing your vote? The only thing I can see is that he's received the critical mass to actually have a lynch so he'll get lynched even if you change your vote. Are you trying to cover your tracks for if/when he flips green?

I don't believe him to be scum.
Life can only kill you once.
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