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Leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic. Thanks. -Nyovne
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 05:48:44
August 12 2011 05:47 GMT
#1
The Chinese media has reported on an extraordinary account of a mother bear saving her cub from a life of torture by strangling it and then killing itself.

The bears were kept in a farm located in a remote area in the North-West of China. The bears on the farm had their gall bladders milked daily for 'bear bile,' which is used as a remedy in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM).

It was reported that the bears are kept in tiny cages known as 'crush cages', as the bears have no room to manoeuvre and are literally crushed.

The bile is harvested by making a permanent hole or fistula in the bears' abdomen and gall bladder.

As the hole is never closed, the animals are suspect to various infections and diseases including tumours, cancers and death from peritonitis.

The bears are fitted with an iron vest, as they often try to kill themselves by hitting their stomach as they are unable to bear the pain.

A person who was on the farm in place of a friend witnessed the procedures and told Reminbao.com that they were inhumane.

The witness also claimed that a mother bear broke out its cage when it heard its cub howl in fear before a worker punctured its stomach to milk the bile.

The workers ran away in fear when they saw the mother bear rushing to its cub's side.

Unable to free the cub from its restraints, the mother hugged the cub and eventually strangled it.

It then dropped the cub and ran head-first into a wall, killing itself.


Many TCM practitioners have denounced the use of bear bile in their treatment as there are cheaper herbs and synthetics that can be used in its place.

Bear bile is traditionally used to remove 'heat' from the body as well as treat high fever, liver ailments and sore eyes.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20110805-292947.html

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Pretty fucked up stuff. What an amazing bear, don't you agree?

Doesn't that mean they have some form of conscious to know that if they kept it up then they'd be free of pain? As well as knowing that they only way to save her cub was to kill it (therefore being free of pain) therefore having some knowledge of what death is?
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 12 2011 05:48 GMT
#2
wtf? can we verify the accuracy of the account?
We talkin about PRACTICE
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
August 12 2011 05:50 GMT
#3
On August 12 2011 14:48 mprs wrote:
wtf? can we verify the accuracy of the account?

what account?
grevenchile
Profile Joined November 2009
Chile118 Posts
August 12 2011 05:50 GMT
#4
woah, thats tragic :/.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 12 2011 05:51 GMT
#5
Holy smoke....is this real? That is terrible
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 12 2011 05:51 GMT
#6
What a sad story. Imagine the desperation and fear it must've felt, for it to kill its own offspring.

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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2040 Posts
August 12 2011 05:52 GMT
#7
Hugged the cub then strangled it? That's heartbreaking...

I can't even imagine going through that, let alone imagining that it's happening to a bear.
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 12 2011 05:52 GMT
#8
sad story bro.

made me shed a tear
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 12 2011 05:53 GMT
#9
Bears have very thick skulls. I doubt it could run into a wall and kill itself.

That said, is what is attested to here actually legal?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24782 Posts
August 12 2011 05:53 GMT
#10
Tragic story of animal cruelty, of course.

But also it sounds amazing the way the bear behaved... if this is true it makes me rethink how animal behaviour works.
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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#11
Im not one of those PETA freaks, but is this shit really necessary? Even zoos dont seem to be worth the mild amusement we get from them.

Theres nothing wrong with eating animals, but do we really have to torture them and keep them in cages?
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#12
Some people are fucking disgusting. Shame on them.
EKnaus
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
126 Posts
August 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#13
Such is the strength of the mama bear. Amazing that she was conscious enough of the situation to save her cub and herself from pain.

Kind of depressing that even bears resort to such methods because of their treatment :[
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 05:56:34
August 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#14
Lololol. This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Everytime you eat KFC you're supporting animal cruelty!

Don't come into these threads and shed tears of ignorance. You're part of the problem.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#15
They do this with chickens all over the world. They're kept in cages too small for them to move, and their beaks are cut off too or else they kill themselves with it.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
August 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#16
Wow.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
August 12 2011 05:56 GMT
#17
How can people be so cruel worthless scum, why would anyone do that no those bears. This kind of people don't really deserve to live imo.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#18
I find this interesting.

I've never heard of animals committing suicide in order to ease pain (other than ourselves of course).
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#19
On August 12 2011 14:55 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Lololol. This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Everytime you eat KFC you're supporting animal cruelty!


Well the fairness of that statement is arguable - but anyways I don't think the levels of cruelty are the same. (not that I think kfc's chickens are treated humanely)
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#20
On August 12 2011 14:55 Equity213 wrote:
They do this with chickens all over the world. They're kept in cages too small for them to move, and their beaks are cut off too or else they kill themselves with it.


Yeah but bears are cute
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