• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:18
CET 23:18
KST 07:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1542 users

Mother Bear kills cub then self at chinese farm

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 33 34 35 Next All
Leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic. Thanks. -Nyovne
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 05:48:44
August 12 2011 05:47 GMT
#1
The Chinese media has reported on an extraordinary account of a mother bear saving her cub from a life of torture by strangling it and then killing itself.

The bears were kept in a farm located in a remote area in the North-West of China. The bears on the farm had their gall bladders milked daily for 'bear bile,' which is used as a remedy in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM).

It was reported that the bears are kept in tiny cages known as 'crush cages', as the bears have no room to manoeuvre and are literally crushed.

The bile is harvested by making a permanent hole or fistula in the bears' abdomen and gall bladder.

As the hole is never closed, the animals are suspect to various infections and diseases including tumours, cancers and death from peritonitis.

The bears are fitted with an iron vest, as they often try to kill themselves by hitting their stomach as they are unable to bear the pain.

A person who was on the farm in place of a friend witnessed the procedures and told Reminbao.com that they were inhumane.

The witness also claimed that a mother bear broke out its cage when it heard its cub howl in fear before a worker punctured its stomach to milk the bile.

The workers ran away in fear when they saw the mother bear rushing to its cub's side.

Unable to free the cub from its restraints, the mother hugged the cub and eventually strangled it.

It then dropped the cub and ran head-first into a wall, killing itself.


Many TCM practitioners have denounced the use of bear bile in their treatment as there are cheaper herbs and synthetics that can be used in its place.

Bear bile is traditionally used to remove 'heat' from the body as well as treat high fever, liver ailments and sore eyes.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20110805-292947.html

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Pretty fucked up stuff. What an amazing bear, don't you agree?

Doesn't that mean they have some form of conscious to know that if they kept it up then they'd be free of pain? As well as knowing that they only way to save her cub was to kill it (therefore being free of pain) therefore having some knowledge of what death is?
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 12 2011 05:48 GMT
#2
wtf? can we verify the accuracy of the account?
We talkin about PRACTICE
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
August 12 2011 05:50 GMT
#3
On August 12 2011 14:48 mprs wrote:
wtf? can we verify the accuracy of the account?

what account?
grevenchile
Profile Joined November 2009
Chile118 Posts
August 12 2011 05:50 GMT
#4
woah, thats tragic :/.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
August 12 2011 05:51 GMT
#5
Holy smoke....is this real? That is terrible
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 12 2011 05:51 GMT
#6
What a sad story. Imagine the desperation and fear it must've felt, for it to kill its own offspring.

T___________T
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
August 12 2011 05:52 GMT
#7
Hugged the cub then strangled it? That's heartbreaking...

I can't even imagine going through that, let alone imagining that it's happening to a bear.
EntusGalleries.com - CJ Uniform Sale
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 12 2011 05:52 GMT
#8
sad story bro.

made me shed a tear
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 12 2011 05:53 GMT
#9
Bears have very thick skulls. I doubt it could run into a wall and kill itself.

That said, is what is attested to here actually legal?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24750 Posts
August 12 2011 05:53 GMT
#10
Tragic story of animal cruelty, of course.

But also it sounds amazing the way the bear behaved... if this is true it makes me rethink how animal behaviour works.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#11
Im not one of those PETA freaks, but is this shit really necessary? Even zoos dont seem to be worth the mild amusement we get from them.

Theres nothing wrong with eating animals, but do we really have to torture them and keep them in cages?
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#12
Some people are fucking disgusting. Shame on them.
EKnaus
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
126 Posts
August 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#13
Such is the strength of the mama bear. Amazing that she was conscious enough of the situation to save her cub and herself from pain.

Kind of depressing that even bears resort to such methods because of their treatment :[
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 05:56:34
August 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#14
Lololol. This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Everytime you eat KFC you're supporting animal cruelty!

Don't come into these threads and shed tears of ignorance. You're part of the problem.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
August 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#15
They do this with chickens all over the world. They're kept in cages too small for them to move, and their beaks are cut off too or else they kill themselves with it.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
August 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#16
Wow.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
August 12 2011 05:56 GMT
#17
How can people be so cruel worthless scum, why would anyone do that no those bears. This kind of people don't really deserve to live imo.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#18
I find this interesting.

I've never heard of animals committing suicide in order to ease pain (other than ourselves of course).
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#19
On August 12 2011 14:55 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Lololol. This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Everytime you eat KFC you're supporting animal cruelty!


Well the fairness of that statement is arguable - but anyways I don't think the levels of cruelty are the same. (not that I think kfc's chickens are treated humanely)
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#20
On August 12 2011 14:55 Equity213 wrote:
They do this with chickens all over the world. They're kept in cages too small for them to move, and their beaks are cut off too or else they kill themselves with it.


Yeah but bears are cute
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
1 2 3 4 5 33 34 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 121
DisKSc2 53
elazer 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 616
Dewaltoss 121
910 40
Dota 2
syndereN572
febbydoto24
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1987
fl0m1409
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu478
Khaldor194
Other Games
Grubby7680
tarik_tv4930
Beastyqt807
ToD349
RotterdaM258
ArmadaUGS139
XaKoH 95
ViBE62
Railgan10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1392
StarCraft 2
angryscii 57
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 85
• RyuSc2 50
• printf 44
• davetesta32
• musti20045 19
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 25
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler92
League of Legends
• Doublelift958
• Stunt261
Other Games
• imaqtpie2482
• WagamamaTV660
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 42m
Krystianer vs Classic
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs Ryung
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
19h 42m
BSL 21
21h 42m
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
OSC
2 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
OSC
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1 - W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1 - W2
Escore Tournament S1 - W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.