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Mad Hatter [...] bombs. If you are killed the same night you lay a bomb, will your bomb explode? Medic You will know if you saved the person. The person will know if he was saved. [...] A medic can protect someone the night she/he gets killed. They won't be notified of their save though, since they are dead. Does this mean that if a medic is killed on the night of a successful save, their target won't be notified of their save, or the dead medic won't be notified? Sheriff [...] Incarcerated players cannot use any powers the night they are incarcerated. If a mafia is incarcerated, they do not contribute to the determination of Mafia KP (Kill Power), so Mafia KP may be lowered. Is the town notified of incarcerations, or only the targeted player? Are players informed of their incarceration before night actions are determined, as in right when the night starts? If not, how does Mafia KP work if the KP is lowered unexpectedly; who escapes death? | ||
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On January 13 2012 16:18 Nisani201 wrote: All the mayor candidates suck. Needlessly negative and broad, don't you think? You could be probing or discussing instead of just commenting apathetically. Any thoughts on the bad candidates? | ||
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I think people confirming is a tradition of some sort? Just to show that they are playing the game. | ||
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kitaman bumatlarge-(also made a post here) Wiggles - town CC Foolishness (for BM) risk.nuke BM BC sandroba VE Meapak Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy. Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers. CC On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote: + Show Spoiler + Cheese for mare! Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future. I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1 1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform. On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote: Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy. So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture. So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election? No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2 On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote: A couple notes about the set-up: Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic. Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia. We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them. Vote me into office, please. I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3 Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates? Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4 One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying. 2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all. 3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it. 4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly. On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote: It is not Foolishness's game I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself. At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted. I made a joke about lynching Wiggles. Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5 On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it  Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice. Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced. Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6 5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy. 6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive. Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese. Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol. | ||
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Meapak is my favorite candidate atm; posts decent reasoning on all of the other candidates, as well as a running mate. Presents good reason why "middling" town players are not as good for mayor. First post is motivating/pressuring a couple pretty well. Candidates who need to post more or make better case IMO: risk.nuke - one post sandroba - one post CC - I don't trust him BM - isn't really saying why he should be mayor/what would he do, other than the fact that he has a scumtell and a towntell. 50+% of people haven't posted yet, let's get ball rolling  | ||
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Regardless, I don't think there are any 3rd party roles. Yeah, there aren't, I checked. I actually agree with your assessment on Nissani... I don't think it's a super strong town tell, but yah. | ||
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On January 13 2012 19:41 Adam4167 wrote: This hasn't been mentioned yet and I think it deserves to be: Electing our best scum hunters so they can use the bodyguards as shields is just inviting the scum to wipe out both of our elected officials after they replace our bodyguards with their own. If they kill both officials on night 1, we'll never know who the scummy bodyguards were and we'll be down 2 of our best scum hunters and both of our elected roles. Id prefer if our best scum hunters didn't run for election, and left their protection in the hands of the sheriff/medic. Hmm... I think provisions can be made against a bodyguard coup like that; I'll refrain from theorycrafting too much, but remember that the elected roles know who are elected as bodyguard. There are enough good scumhunters in this game (presumably) that having some in the powerful/relatively protected positions is a good thing. Saying that they might be shot doesn't really matter when if not mayor/sheriff they also can easily be shot. When killed, do Bodyguards flip as Bodyguard(red or blue), or just Townie/Mafia Role? Sleeping, see you guys later. | ||
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I don't like foolishness but that doesn't mean bm is bad. will return to this again later. Current opinion on BC: wouldn't it have been better to get elected then mason one of your bodyguards? To get a tell on them? You already had a good shot at getting elected... I don't see as this scum though, more like a weird gambit. Posted from phone, will post more later. | ||
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On January 14 2012 21:45 Jayjay54 wrote: 5) Echelon I am still waiting for an explanation here. Seriously. Step up. Do I really have to precisely explain how my post style works? Is it REALLY that suspicious that I put a tag there? Think about if I as a mafia would I ever do that; if you really think so then there's nothing I can do to convince you. I said it was a posting mistake immediately after posting it. I don't want to clutter thread up with back and forth talking, as the thread is growing so big, but you seem intent on pushing me on this. | ||
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On January 15 2012 00:57 Toadesstern wrote: I'm visiting my sis so I'm out for a couple of hours. However I still have a couple of people I have no idea about. I'm just leaving you with a list of 5 or so names and if you see your name on that list I'd like to know who you want to vote for mayor and if you had to decide the first lynch who it would be. I'm only mentioning people I think might read this, so thx if you do: + Show Spoiler + 5. risk.nuke 9. Kenpachi (you won't answer this right?) 11. EchelonTee 14. Liquid`Sheth 20. Ciryandor 49. Scamp turns out I got 6 names instead of only 5 but yeah that's it for now. Still reading through thread, this is on page 52. I would vote for Meapak/BM, lynch Ciry/Palmar. I don't support lynching sandroba or BC. Obviously am not done reading yet. | ||
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