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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 17:04:13
December 15 2011 17:04 GMT
#49
Isn't XLIX next?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
December 15 2011 21:27 GMT
#58
Quick, rename Ver's game into XLIX
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 18:46:05
January 02 2012 18:44 GMT
#66
/in
I expect this to be a 50p game
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 06 2012 06:50 GMT
#149
Ugh, a pm game...
Not sure if I want to stay in or not
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 06 2012 08:06 GMT
#154
Poll: Should this be a PM game?

No (20)
 
54%

Yes (14)
 
38%

Undecided/Don't care (3)
 
8%

37 total votes

Your vote: Should this be a PM game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Undecided/Don't care

The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 10:22:29
January 06 2012 10:21 GMT
#162
If we're going with a PM game, I want to warn everybody to not trust anything/anyone that you aren't talking to over TL. Fake logs and pretending to be other people do happen, and they are relatively cheap methods that ruin the analysis portion of the game.

Preferably, I'd have rules made against those, but none resulted from PYP:I, so a warning will have to suffice.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 06 2012 11:28 GMT
#170
On January 06 2012 20:21 Toadesstern wrote:
voted yes to witness my first ever pm-game :3

Also authed and +x'ed myself in irc to screw with palmar.

€: Ah crap, that's not working because my ID is in there as well

connect via proxy server on the web client maybe?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 18:36:26
January 06 2012 18:33 GMT
#182
On January 06 2012 17:06 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Poll: Should this be a PM game?

No (20)
 
54%

Yes (14)
 
38%

Undecided/Don't care (3)
 
8%

37 total votes

Your vote: Should this be a PM game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Undecided/Don't care


Casually bumping to page 10

Edit, reasoning for not liking PM's-
PYP:I mafia, I was still fairly newbie, and on the Lancaster scum team. Kavdragon smurfing as Jimbosilvers pretended to be Chaoser (Scum buddy) on irc, and I asked him his thoughts on the night kill. Both of us got vigged night 1.

even if nobody feigns their identity, and no conversations are falsified, things are just better kept in thread. You end up having a similar conversation at least 10 times with different people.

The falsified conversations I don't really mind, as long as people realise anything not in the thread might not be real, but the not being who you say you are (via choice of name)... ugh
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 08 2012 02:56 GMT
#224
dat horse
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 04:31:38
January 10 2012 04:18 GMT
#259
On January 10 2012 12:44 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
You wouldn't even know about the Hand of Destiny, am I pronouncing that right? , if you weren't the Insane Destiny Fan ! Well, now that you've scum slipped we know there is no Calender Plagiarizer and can go on lynching ~~~~ Flamewheel ~~~~ ?

The question is, how does Sheth know then?
I think we found the real red
+ Show Spoiler [Image of Sheth] +
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [I know it's tempting but] +
[image loading]

Sheth you must stop posting

The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 10 2012 07:07 GMT
#270
If we can find the link between all these red roles, we can probably derive the others.

Known Scum roles:
Compulsive Liar
Architect of Fate
Insane Destiny Fan
Corrupt Swiss Banker
Suspicous character

Not in the game:
Calender Plagiarizer
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 10 2012 16:48 GMT
#302
On January 10 2012 22:26 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 16:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
If we can find the link between all these red roles, we can probably derive the others.

Known Scum roles:
Compulsive Liar
Architect of Fate
Insane Destiny Fan
Corrupt Swiss Banker
Suspicous character

Not in the game:
Calender Plagiarizer

Why do you assume they are members of the same mafia family?

I know for a fact that the Architect of Fate and the Corrupt Swiss Banker have to kill each other off to win.

We really need more than three (4 with bold/black) colours sometimes. A second family could be orange.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 08:41:04
January 11 2012 08:40 GMT
#316
On January 11 2012 07:51 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So, I think we should all have to put L before every post in this game. So something like :

L I think L is mafia in this game of Mafia L.

Should help to remove confusion, provide a clear idea of which mafia this game is and annoy L.

We all need roman numeral smurfs!
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 13 2012 04:45 GMT
#434
Something seems wrong...
I didn't autoscum :O

Speaking of auto-scum
##Vote MrWiggles
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#437
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 13 2012 05:10 GMT
#443
[image loading]

Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 13 2012 07:32 GMT
#483
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [campaign post] +
[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

[image loading]

You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I'm 100% serious

Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected?

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.

On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.

Explain.

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO.

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy...

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 13 2012 09:25 GMT
#510
On January 13 2012 16:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [campaign post] +
[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

[image loading]

You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I'm 100% serious

Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected?

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.

On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.

Explain.

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO.

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy...

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


He's posting with a positive attitude and he didnt squeem at all at the prospect of lynching wiggles. Plus he took your lameness seriously :D I'm not planning ahead THAT much, and running for mayor as blue is perfectly reasonable reasoning. Unless a vanilla townie is very good, there is little reason for him to run over a townie.

I find cheese's posting rather scummy so far. He seems rather content with stepping on peoples posts this game with not much regard to his own. I will review his case.

I'm reading through and commenting on peoples play, yes. It was to draw out some reasons behind actions and thoughts that I'm trying to understand the motivation behind.
On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.

On January 13 2012 17:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.



eh? not that I want to start the first huge argument of the thread but. Do you agree that it is possible for someone to change their style?

I am willing to give cheese about 20ish-30ish more minutes to respond to you before I make up my mind on him as well, I know my giant post was written as you posted 3 times. If he posts within the next bit of time badly or doesn't I will have him on a shit list.

Making up your mind on someone not even a quarter of the way into the first day? Seems legit.


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 13 2012 10:03 GMT
#515
On January 13 2012 18:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.


I bolded the part I don't like. Yes, mayor does offer a lot of incentive for scum in the form of uncheckable. However I don't think it's safe to assume that it's a guarentee, and even if they do we may not be able to tell which one. In this case, it's just a better idea to lynch the scummiest player regardless of whether they were a mayoral candidate.

Discussion on whether scum will or will not run for mayor is pretty much WIFOM so I'll just leave it at that, the above is what I think and will be how I conduct the lynch if I'm elected mayor.

Ok really going to sleep now :D

Yes there can be scummier people, but people who push for mayor are exposing themselves to much harsher scrutinization, which means it's essentially a random lynch outside of that pool if we capitalize on the obligations required to run to a decent capacity (e.g make them post opinions and scumhunt).

On January 13 2012 15:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.

My campaign is to not make a campaign post, because they're all the same (except for foolishness' so far), and they're all useless.

Having a campaign is important. We need to know what the person intends to do, and have something we can bind them with. It also generates a lot of meaningful discussion.
Yes most of the campaign posts will look similar, but if a candidate is unwilling to take stances on little things now, can we trust them with a power role? Moreover, if they promise things, we can hold them to it.

So far, Wiggles is running on scare tactics and a plea, and seems to be very focused on the setup
If the day were to end right now, he would be my lynch.

From me, you can expect things like: replies within a decent time frame, my votes to be an assessment of the game as a whole (not tunnelling), and honesty.
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January 13 2012 17:55 GMT
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On January 14 2012 02:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 13 2012 16:43 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
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This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

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You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
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Yes I'm 100% serious

Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected?

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.

On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.

Explain.

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO.

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy...

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


He's posting with a positive attitude and he didnt squeem at all at the prospect of lynching wiggles. Plus he took your lameness seriously :D I'm not planning ahead THAT much, and running for mayor as blue is perfectly reasonable reasoning. Unless a vanilla townie is very good, there is little reason for him to run over a townie.

I find cheese's posting rather scummy so far. He seems rather content with stepping on peoples posts this game with not much regard to his own. I will review his case.

I'm reading through and commenting on peoples play, yes. It was to draw out some reasons behind actions and thoughts that I'm trying to understand the motivation behind.
On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.

On January 13 2012 17:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.



eh? not that I want to start the first huge argument of the thread but. Do you agree that it is possible for someone to change their style?

I am willing to give cheese about 20ish-30ish more minutes to respond to you before I make up my mind on him as well, I know my giant post was written as you posted 3 times. If he posts within the next bit of time badly or doesn't I will have him on a shit list.

Making up your mind on someone not even a quarter of the way into the first day? Seems legit.


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.


wtf is this post?

Your post is nothing if not confrontational without saying anything important. You attack someone earlier for not adding things to the discussion of the thread however you fail to do so here. You want to be elected yet your primary posting style at the moment is to make a massive quote post with 1 line explaining your take on a specific quote. In some cases, 1 word. This is not the behaviour indicative of someone the town would want to lead them. To quote you

"I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced"

As the way you are playing now all votes on your are misplaced. You are not posting in a manner that is inherently decent. You are not posting frequently with decent contented posts to get a solid read on you. You are not actively attempting to assert a mark on the role that puts you in a spotlight for good reasons. You are in a spotlight because you are insanely shifty in the eyes of many players.

EVERYONE should not be voting cybercheese unless he turns his game around now. Even if he is townie and he is insanely good he should know that his posts at the moment are terrible and are not ones that indicate the qualities someone who would be a good leader.


As for my take on the other candidates. At the moment I am willing to get behind either meapak, BM, or bumatlarge.

of the current people running, each of them has shown they can be active, make intelligent posts, and have clear ones that help get a general read on them. Everyone should be giving their take on who of the current candidates would make the best mayor. This way we can lower the total people "running" by taking the top 3 or 4 choices and voting as opposed to having 7-8 people running.

Yes it's less helpful than it could be. That does not mean there was no content. Bill Murray needs to explain his read, and why it convinced him so much for starters.

BC, who would you vote for right now and why? Moreover, who would you lynch, and why?

On January 14 2012 02:02 rgTheSchworz wrote:

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On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.

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I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.
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Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor.






You give no reason, cite a troll post, yet you are active.I have delved into town-Palmar and yes, town-Palmar usually runs for mayor or takes interest in mayoral elections.More than one-liner posts would be helpful.FoS Palmar.

D3, why lynch BM? He first got involved in elections by Foolishness and then posted to say why CC is hypocritical, which is semi-relevant.Maybe he is trying to defend bumat.

On the other hand sandro has been like,, I will be running for mayor''.
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and I can tell you that keeping me alive will improve town's chances by a lot

Blueclaim.
Rgtheschworz signing out

Could you explain the weird formatting?
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