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That's his claimed posting restriction, as I'm sure you know, so what was the point of that exactly? | ||
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On August 14 2011 05:08 Curu wrote: Well until something else comes up ##Vote Flamewheel Let's see what he has to say. You are smarter than this. Did you honestly read that "pm" and believe it was "intercepted" and real? How exactly would it have been intercepted, why would it be signed when the supposed recipient used an alias and even the content is ridiculous. | ||
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On August 16 2011 13:11 ghrur wrote: Oh, btw Curu, my guess for why Fishball brought out your roleclaim: I'm a 1shot vigi that can only shoot people who claim roles/powers. Fishball wanted to note your roleclaim so that he can shoot you if need be. The role and that statement makes no sense at all. If such a role exists, why would he be against people role claiming and how does "noting" the claimhave anything to do with him potentially shooting someone. Further, how would such a role know when someone is fake claiming? If it's a oneshot ability, why did you waste it on kurumi? Did you find him scummy? Also, he was banned, as in received a real 2 day ban, so it's not like spamming was going to be an issue. You are lying. | ||
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On August 16 2011 21:51 ghrur wrote: LOL! Are you serious? So I've been breadcrumbing my shot since I came into the game, claimed the extra KP, and this is all elaborately planned by mafia? No, I think you're just trying to instill doubt here when I'm obviously the vig who shot Kurumi. What other possible explanation do you have? How else could I have breadcrumbed the Kurumi shot beforehand? Eh? It's not wasted at all. This is to show I won't tolerate spam. And if he's banned, he's a lurker now too! So let's see, shoot someone hurting town atmosphere. Check. Shoot lurker. Check. Clean up thread. Check. MY GOD, THAT'S SO ANTI-TOWN. Noting the claim makes it indisputable that the person indeed claimed. Fake claim doesn't matter. If you claim in any way, I was allowed to shoot you. The exact word is roleclaimer, therefore anyone who claims a name/power. Authenticity doesn't matter. Did any medics protect Kitaman? What I'm trying to do is understand your motivations and so far the story hasn't really added up. It's very likely that you actually shot kurumi, the question is why and why your answers to sandroba were so strange. I disagree with the notion that shooting kurumi was a pro-town move; Kurumi would have likely been a) modkilled or b) replaced with a more active player and his play so far looked very much like his day 1 martyring/suicidal play in ptp2 as a townie. It was basically a wasted shot and allegedly your only one. Regardless, your reaction here looks more genuine than what I've seen from you so far. | ||
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On August 22 2011 03:44 redFF wrote: LOLWUT THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID DAY 1 OF TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA. YOU WERE TALKING TO HIM DAY 1 OF TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA. THERE WAS A HUGE LOG POSTED OF YOUR GUYS CONVERSATION IN TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA. VOTE ME FOR MAYOR FFS. sorry for caps. You don't know him as well as I do; he wasn't talking much in that "huge log" and in addition he never talked to me in private, merely in that group conversation. Moreover, he was stuck talking to us at least a bit because not talking at all is suspicious given that we normally talk a lot, but this isn't a PM game, so he could have just chosen not to initiate PMs with me. | ||
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 . Thanks for hosting, the setup had a lot potential for hilarity and some of that materialized.We didn't play particularly well, but town was so awful I decided pretty early on that we can win just by lurking and not really by blatantly pushing the mafia agenda (cough). If curu hadn't been lucky with his night action, this might have been a flawless mafia victory. It turns out lurking apparently makes you less suspicious in the eyes of this town, not more. The setup seemed mafia favored for once, but town did have a lot of KP and failed to use it properly. Sandroba's role was incredibly powerful, but he telling everyone about it on n1 wasn't a good, but I guess he was really paranoid about being hit and thought it was likely that one of the people he contacted early was mafia. We were quite afraid of a mass claim since a lot of town roles were likely confirmable and not very likely to be given to mafia. While comparing PMs isn't allowed, even matching vague role descriptions with appropriate personalities can be risky. Perhaps the game was balanced around mafia losing some of their key roles early, but as that didn't materialize and town lost some of their own key roles early on, the balance shifted decidedly on n2. Town was warned against role/personality claiming, but kept doing it anyway. Tnkted strongly hinting that he had some kind of vote rigging role was the final nail in the coffin. We used our forced role claiming ability to make sure it really was that, as it was difficult to believe a townie would basically reveal their role during night, let alone end the day prematurely. The ability didn't force him to be truthful, but I suppose he thought that lying would just make things worse for him and didn't anticipate a role thief. Also, town should have read through PYPI post game balance discussion to get an idea of the mafia roles that might be present in this setup. There was no speculation about the potential roles at all. When Kav suddenly blew up and "another" nuke went off, town just shrugged and moved on. It was possible to deduce based on that chain of events that it had to have been some kind of bomb, unless you thought plausible that he was day vigged AFTER he had already been nuked. Similarly it might have been possible to conclude Bum couldn't be mafia, but a flip framer is such powerful role when unexpected. Special mention to Kav for his chezinu impression. We also regret that we had to take out the real one on n1. fake edit: wow town had a lot of roles they never really used | ||
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On August 23 2011 16:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Both sides sucked, and I had absolutely no idea who had the bc personality at first, factor in that I figured that since it was technically 8 vs town the chances of the bc personality being red were fairly high. As such me dying could have killed one of you guys, I had no way of knowing until i knew who all the red were that my "lynch" wouldn't rape a mafia. Also you guys ruined all chances of me ever revealing myself to you the moment you had palmar out my role. Had I not been modkilled I wouldn't have done jackshit to reveal myself unless game made it to lylo and I was somehow still alive. When mafia asks the traitor to do something, he should do it regardless of what he thinks is going on in the game. Clearly mafia has more information than you and as such can make a better assessment of the situation. Basically even without that lynch dodging thing, town couldn't lynch you or they would lose and we were going to have a medic on you if you had claimed. e: i suppose your belief that BC could be a mafia personality is a reasonable explanation, but I don't think that was very likely | ||
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