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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 21:49 GMT
#15
Well I got a late PM from Incog so

/in or /confirm if it's still open.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 11 2011 17:26 GMT
#64
F6 F6 F6
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 11 2011 22:34 GMT
#73
F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 12 2011 23:12 GMT
#80
Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 06:22 GMT
#101
Can we expect it anytime in the next hour?

If not I shall retreat to sleep.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 07:28 GMT
#113
/confirm
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 07:42 GMT
#114
First off thanks Ver and Incognito for the work put into this. I can tell they put a lot of effort in to find roles, lol.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 17:15 GMT
#180
On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.

PEdit

Kav wtf?

i told you that dt should check me night 1 then
together with a doc visiting me
jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather


What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league.

Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here.

If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role?

Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader?

And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 17:23 GMT
#181
As for roles = alignment, that should be completely discarded. Trying to win a game just based off of flavour is stupid and allows Mafia to twist it around into Town interpreting it how Mafia wants them to.

Also consider that many of the players in the game won't know the quirks or supposed alignments of many of the old players, so again the possibility of being sheeped into making uninformed decisions.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 17:27 GMT
#184
On August 14 2011 02:25 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 14 2011 01:57 bumatlarge wrote:
For interpretation purposes, I think it actually might not be a bad thing to figure out who everyone is. Roles most certainly do not pertain to alignment, as attributing a personality to an alignment would make this more of a research game, and scum would be better off not acting as their alter-egos.

It would definitely be profitable to keep in mind who everyone is posting as, to analyze their posts better, but I don't think it's as easy as everyone is making it out to be. It should not be the focus at this point of the game.

Kurumi's posts have been odd. While I'm a huge pokemon fan, reading past the glitter, I'm already seeing errors and assumptions that I wouldn't think any townie would make.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 14 2011 00:09 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 00:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:06 Kurumi wrote:
thanks ver for giving yourself to sandroba he is a genius
btw
this time roles are connected to alignment


What makes you think that?

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 14:19 Ver wrote:
General Mechanics


Each player is given an alignment along with the identity of a famous TL Mafia player, which includes powers that fit the flavor of the player's identity. Personalities can be taken from (but are not limited to) the TL Mafia Quiz. Other than that, it's a straight up mafia game with a few twists, namely:

Some personalities have post restricitons.
Some personalities have secondary objectives.
Some personalities are required to perform some action.

Of course, these all fit the flavor of the personalities and are intended to spice up the game. Other than the restrictions in your identity PMs, you are encouraged to do whatever you can to roleplay your identity. Above all, have fun with the game!

Warning: I heavily advise you to think twice before roleclaiming.

+ Show Spoiler [List of Potential Identities in the game] +
(Note: Role descriptions will not be given until death)

~OpZ~
0cz3c
Ace
Annul
AttackZerg
BillMurray
BloodyC0bbler
Bumatlarge
Caller
Chaoser
Chezinu
Chuiu
citi.zen
Coagulation
DoctorHelvetica
Dreamflower
FakeSteve
Fishball
Flamewheel
Foolishness
Incognito
JimboSilvers
Kavdragon
Kenpachi
Korynne
L
LSB
LTT
Meapak_Ziphh
Meeple
MrBabyHands
nemY
Pandain
Protactinium
Pyrrhuloxia
Qatol
Radfield
RebirthOfLeGenD
redtooth
Showtime!
Ver
Youngminii
Zona


Role PM descriptions will not be given out until after the game is over. Only alignment and personality will be given.

i think that points it out


I'm not reading that at all. I think it's saying the complete opposite. The other things you say I can understand from whatever personality you may have, but this statement seems convincingly intentional. Care to explain?

i might be wrong i am not native english speaker sorry
i thought about both ways (aka it is linked or not) but i want to see my truth (that is "roles" are connected to alignment)
also kitaman, if i must be crazy how i can stop doing it? ;p
also, please, pick pokemon for me so i can keep up with the lets play


Pick Bulbasaur cause that's all you are to VisceraEyes, a stupid ugly invisible shrub.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 18:02 GMT
#191
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 18:17 GMT
#196
Jackal what alignment are you?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 18:23 GMT
#204
On August 14 2011 03:18 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm town


Well you just cleared whoever has the Bill Murray role as likely Town then. No way a Townie gets a win condition to get a specific Mafia lynched.

Possibility that Bill Murray a 3rd Party, but doubtful unless it's a Survivor or something.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 18:27 GMT
#207
Hi LSB.

In reply to this post:

On August 14 2011 03:22 LSB wrote:
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On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray

Coag then? Seems unlikely since Coag doesn't troll the thread all the time


I'd like you to take the advice so brilliantly laid out in this post:

On August 14 2011 03:04 LSB wrote:
Personality fishing is just BS, personalities are not tied to roles and I have no idea why any of you would think that they do. What do you think you can tell me about Syllogism's role or alignment is if you know he is Meapak?


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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 18:35 GMT
#211
On August 14 2011 03:30 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:24 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray


If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM?

I never said I am Bill Murray, where did I god damnit?


You decided to make your name Bill in the pokemon theme, have been spamming the thread, and hinted at a rivalry with L?

Kurumi's real name is Antoni
I don't know Bill Murray's real name
though I know someone with Bill as real name
I always spam the thread


So its just a coincidence that you mentioned the BM/L rivalry and jackal has it in his role pm?

I did not think about Bill Murray lol stop fishing my damn personality I was happy enough when everyone thought I was BM and put me in the useless box
also if You mention "rivalry" in jackal's "PM"
it means
Jackal is L (he claims to be town aligned)
and we have Bill Murray somewhere
that would mean that either BM is 3rd Party/Scum or L is Scum/3rd party


How does this make any sense? Why would you give a Townie a win condition that is "oh lynch this specific Mafia member" THAT'S THEIR GENERAL WIN CON ANYWAYS.

Much more likely that Jackal is a Townie with the win con to see another Townie/harmless 3rd Party lynched or Jackal is 3rd Party in which case there's the possibility Bill Murray is scum but still unlikely.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 18:49 GMT
#218
3) You are L. The day has just started and you don't even know your role yet, what do you do?

j) Lynch Bill Murray
Bill Murray was to be hanged. Stammering his protests in short, uncontrolled bursts all the way up to the rope, Bill Murray found no sympathy in the eyes of the few who had turned up to watch his execution.

A tightening, crack, and creak later, and Bill Murray hang dead.

A few faces looked at L, and he just shrugged. "Tomorrow," he said.

Bill Murray the Townie is dead.


If we're going to kill Kurumi, it's because he looks like he'll just be trolling for the rest of the game not because you think he's Bill Murray. That comes down to whether or not you want to policy lynch. But rather than policy lynch Kurumi, who's actually active, I'd prefer a lynch all NOT POSTING ANYTHING EVERS (Coagulation isn't in this game, so Kenpachi would be next).
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 19:03 GMT
#229
On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red


What the fuck is this? You're claiming DT already? Day DT?

Explain.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 19:17 GMT
#242
Both of you shut up about this.

LSB where'd you go?

Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 19:25 GMT
#253
On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.

LSB where'd you go?

Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit.

If he is a DT he is dead tonight


Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough.

Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities:

1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot.

2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia.
or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia.

Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 13 2011 19:28 GMT
#254
On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:
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On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:
On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm

Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.


there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know?

if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day.


Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody.

Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb)

Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules:
On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm

Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.

People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital.


I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up.



-----


Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray.

However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure.


So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead?

Hi there scum logic.
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