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On August 02 2011 09:20 chaos13 wrote: DrH has the right idea here. Yes, confirmed townies are excellent. However, mafia can easily fake claim a role like medic or vig, and then we would need to waste our DT checks in order to confirm those claims. Not only that, but we have no idea who the day vig actually is. If it's in the hands of a weaker player, that could lead to complete and utter disaster. Having one player coordinate all the actions of the blues is never a good thing. There is far too much room for error in such a situation, especially since mafia are able to PM and influence the game as well. Ultimately, however, it is up to the individuals with the roles to decide what to do. Discussion about this is very good, but I would rather not waste all day with it. Just something to keep in mind if we're still arguing about it in 24 hours. Vigis, because there are probably a lot of you in here: Do not shoot unless it is at confirmed scum. If you feel you must shoot anyway, take out lurkers and liars. This sort of common sense is all too often ignored, and results in dead town. Even take DT claims with a grain of salt. If analysis points to a player being town when a claimed check has shown red, proceed with caution. It could be a miller or a scum's fake claim in order to waste a vig shot, especially if the claimed DT player has been under suspicion. No one is confirmed scum until they flip. You even go on to say red checks can be millers or the DT fake claiming; vigs should be shooting at people they believe are likely scum. Overall I'm not a huge fan of this post as you joined the anti-sandroba plan wagon quite late, you cover all the angles without really taking a strong position and the part about DTs fake claiming feels a bit forced. | ||
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On August 03 2011 04:49 Lucidity wrote: Lol dude wtf? I'm struggling to find any non-scum motive for wanting such a claim. Could you provide me with one? And you're focused on maintaining your appearance as an active townie instead of hunting scum? Good stuff. Mig's going crazy at people for not providing great posts on IRC, yet he's not doing what he's hounding others to do? Scum often employ such strategies. What's the dealio, yo? Yes, the famous scum strategy of trying to get people to be active when the thread is basically dead. He has been quite active in both PMs and in thread, comparatively. | ||
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On August 03 2011 04:57 youngminii wrote: syllogism you have been nonstop defending Mig in IRC and evidently this thread too. You've been doing it the entire time I was arguing with Mig. The ENTIRE time. Mig pays you no attention but you keep backing him up on literally everything. Why? Haha non-stop defending? The only thing I've defended him against is your awful logic | ||
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##vote Varpulis | ||
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Err yes, unless you think his plan was to bus his teammate 1, shoot a random and not use the other shot just so he could get town cred. It's a completely ridiculous scenario | ||
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On August 05 2011 07:13 redFF wrote: wtf is it with new players and mass claiming lol. He isn't confirmed town so we will not be mass claiming to him. It's a game of probabilities and this is a semi-closed setup. If we put the likelihood of mig being town at, say, 90+%, mass claiming could be worthwhile. He doesn't have to be 100% confirmed. | ||
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Still, Jeejee looks like the better lynch right now. Initially I thought that his drazerk wagon attempt begun too late for it to be a scum attempting to save his team mate (varpulis already had 8 votes and the other alternative only 2), but he actually defended him quite early. Ace is obviously correct in that defending someone isn't a scum tell, but in this context I still consider it something a scum is more likely to do. Jeejee posted his defense soon after Varpulis posted his own and ignored it, despite the defense itself looking quite bad ("I'm fairly sure that i'm not scum, unless I have a serious problem with reading pms". ##vote Jeejee If there are still blues yet to roleclaim to mig, you should do it now. | ||
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