Really though, this game gives preference to newer players, I'm offering to guide them through the worst newbie mistakes. At your level of play we'd benefit much more from mutual discussion than straight up coaching.

Think of it as me trying to jump-start the completely new guys to a reasonable level, a level where they don't actively sabotage their faction with their posting.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 20 2011 09:15 GMT

#20

On July 20 2011 17:49 Ace wrote:
eh what? This is for new players only? So where do I go for small normals?

you missed merc mini

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 20 2011 11:10 GMT

#22

well fuck coaching then

I'd like to play. if that's ok with you GM?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 20 2011 11:25 GMT

#24

/in

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 20 2011 11:50 GMT

#27

lol ace should like this

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 20 2011 23:52 GMT

#42

@new guys

Just be prepared that this thing is actually hard work.

And don't take anything personally, this is a game.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 01:09 GMT

#76

On July 22 2011 08:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi town! I'm VisceraEyes! Some of you I might know me from the several games I've lost for my team in the past. This game I'm going to turn that around.

Some requests:

If you're fluent in BB formatting, PLEASE use spoilers and quotes. Text walls are easier to swallow when they're broken up. If you're not, please keep your thoughts concise and to the point.

I'd like to try and keep the discussion focused this game. Obviously with such varied personalities, this is likely to be difficult. If we all do our part to keep the thread nice, we may even get to keep the All button! ^^

Probably my most sincere hope is that we avoid some of the mud-slinging and nonsense that tends to go with these games. Obviously some of us are going to get frustrated, but if we all try and primarily attack arguments, not people, I think the game will go a lot smoother.

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Nice contribution bro, I think you're legit town.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 01:31 GMT

#81

redFF is just saying that because he got lynched day 1 as scum in bc's aa for randomly trying to protect a failure of a town.

Here's a tip for mafia, when townies are about to die, just let them die.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 01:32 GMT

#82

On July 22 2011 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmm...ACE with the first scummy post. Go figure.

Ace, what possible information could be gleaned from deciding who to lynch based on randomness (if that's what you're proposing?) I'm relatively new, so forgive if this is something obvious that I just haven't picked up yet...

It's a great idea.

Although, killing the third poster after the daypost has a far higher success-rate.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 09:34 GMT

#166

lol, I can see why people say you're good Ace, you somehow convinced half the thread that a random lynch on day 1 is a good idea?

Like, I've played 8 mafia games, 5 of them we've lynched scum or 3rd party on day 1. That's far higher than 25%.

Is this just some clever ploy to start a discussion or try to figure out who is going to be the scummy white knight who trashes your plan?

btw, Killing ace day1 is stupid, just lynch him day 2 because the mafia will shoot him if he's not part of their team.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 09:48 GMT

#167

On July 22 2011 09:58 redFF wrote:

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Most people haven't even posted at all yet...

As for what to do now for the newbies, just post and wait for someone to slip up/look scummy. Also please do not lie, there have been a bunch of games recently where bad townies have lied and screwed over town, so don't lie! LAL is a very extreme policy but it makes sense. I'm not suggesting LAL, but if someone lies then I will personally look at them carefully and trust them a good deal less.

We have a lot of new players in this game so i encourage more experienced players to remember that there is a difference between DUMBand SCUM. Too often day 1 lynches end up with some townie getting lynched for trivial reasons when people dont realise the townie is just bad!

Holy shit redFF, thanks for giving advice on how to play. Here is a tip: LAL doesn't work unless you actually maintain the illusion that you'll follow through with it.

But of course, you want to have an out if at some point someone actually fucks up, so you leave a hole in your policies for bad townies, something you're most certainly going to try and convince us of when one of your scumbuddies gets under pressure

On July 22 2011 11:16 redFF wrote:
I've never actually seen or heard of random lynching before, well most day 1 lynches are random but outright saying they are and randomly deciding who is lynched is something i've never seen before, can you link me to a game where a random lynch has been used? It seems pretty dumb to me, because you could hit an active pro-town player just as likely as you could hit a lurking mafia.

Why don't you just come flat out and say the plan is terrible? We all know it's not good, the problem is identifying which is more scummy, the idiots supporting the plan or the white knights fighting against it.

But I think you're just posting random shit to make yourself look good.

#vote redFF

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 12:26 GMT

#170

your mother.

But it's still interesting.

Ace proposes terrible plan, Jacinto and VE don't like it, DragonReborn actually likes it. Like.. would scum actually take the chance? The lynch isn't really 25% chance because the mafia can co-ordinate their votes, if they so please, so I think what DragonReborn did was stupid, but probably not scummy.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 14:29 GMT

#178

On July 22 2011 23:15 DragonReborn422 wrote:

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what exactly did i do that is stupid oh god of mafia?

You agreed with ace's plan.

From town perspective it doesn't make any sense, as judging by the sample of games I've played town has more like 50%+ chance of hitting mafia on day one, so if you're town, you should by logic never agree to this plan.

But I don't think you'd out yourself as mafia like that... early, so I'm inclined to believe it's bad judgement.

redFF however responded in the scummiest way possible to Ace's plan, he was indecisive, tried to appear interested in the plan by asking further questions, when just thinking about the problem would lead you to understand why it's bad.

That's why I'm voting for redFF, I think it's pretty obvious that he was avoiding taking a firm stance on it. Don't forget a random lynch is really the worst scenario for town (aside from the fact mafia can stack), and the entire point of the mafia game, is to increase that chance by analysis and logic.

So yeah, read red's posts, realize that they don't make sense, given his experience as a player.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 15:08 GMT

#181

How the fuck have you played 100 games? have you been playing for years?

Anyway

On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:

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I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.

This makes it look like you're perfectly fine with RL. That's a terrible idea and you should know it. And yes, I call out anyone who acts stupidly for acting stupidly.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

July 22 2011 15:14 GMT

#183

haha live games, sure I have 100 games on epicmafia... herpderpherpderp

Anyway, redFF, tell me your thoughts.

Also, pyo, he needs to be shot in the face, if we default to a policy lynch, Pyo is a great one, as he refuses to commit on day 1 when he's "town". So he just self-votes or something.