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Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 20 2011 22:42 GMT
#41
+1 up meh on last slot pls. Have xp on DR's Maf Mod just discovered your thread today, understood ingame mechanics. Let's go!
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 22 2011 00:23 GMT
#70
/confirmed.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#75
We're trapped in a SAS between the source of the deadly strain and humanity.

In theory, we were all supposed to be sealed to prevent the spread of the infectious risk to other vaults.

The procedure got sabotaged via two modus operandi, a crowbar and a virus, therefore the infected are fully conscious of their scheme.

The suspects were specified as three individuals, the sneering dark figure is just a metaphorical symbol of the plague.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 22 2011 19:19 GMT
#235
We could pull up any reasoning on the morality of first round RL being beneficial or detrimental to town, imo its totally subjective from past experience. I completely understand adherents to RL even as a tentative lure, which doesn't mean I abide to it.

It's clear that Ace has some kind of pillar aura presence in this game, there are several acknowledgments of his expertise. Besides initiating the whole debate on RL, I still view him from his recent post as clear and he set up a good formulating point to extract some info.

DR and VE stand out from being overly defensive which does not automatically imply guilt, on the contrary it’s good to see some defensive passion displayed.

There’s some trash talk going on regarding DR’s presumed experience which is completely overboard the situation, yet I understand his point even at the lowest where he’s okay either way with RL or not even if he lost some feathers on the way.

Palmar has some free flowing self-righteousness going on for the sake of some twisted justice of being himself.

I won’t go through some enumerated analysis à la DR one by one, redFF still stands out on my point from his ice-breaker never lie ‘cause you’d have to respond to your actions ethic, imo he still leaves a lasting impression besides that it’s just observing game.

It’s clear that conscentious factual reasoning is relevant, however clearly out of line on this first round time-frame basis. This figure comes to mind when I see the 100% townie claim of DR, that ratio of certainty is out of league, yet it’s your style so go for it, seemingly you got a bit more passive so just stand for what you’re up for.

##vote aprudds due to jittering agressivity, appearing obvious on both sides from a cover scheme or sense of safety in belonging.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 22 2011 19:34 GMT
#239
@aprudds the majority of your posts were specific aimed.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 20:01:43
July 22 2011 19:56 GMT
#242
@aprudss

On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote:
So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"?


On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:
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On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.

Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered.

Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him.




On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote:
Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar.


bash and rush for cover.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 22 2011 20:11 GMT
#244
@trotske added VE nested quote to keep context.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 23 2011 23:57 GMT
#356
After throwing in RL to gather reactions and build a counter, if I put myself in Ace's position I'd also totally take low key stance on day two feigning lassitude to check the water temperature.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 26 2011 02:16 GMT
#398
##vote: Ace

Charges:

@Ace contradiction

On July 21 2011 05:25 Ace wrote:
ok then I'll play


Mute of day two.

On July 21 2011 09:01 Ace wrote:
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On July 21 2011 07:10 Hesmyrr wrote:
Ace joined? Oh shit. Looks like this game might be pretty interesting to follow along.


I'll be relaxing this game so I won't be doing anything out of the ordinary. I'm just here to drink my champagne.


On July 22 2011 11:13 Ace wrote:
I'm for random lynching because I'm not expecting anyone to just out themselves so easily. I think it's a fun way to start off the game anyway because I'm not in the mood to read people arguing about things that aren't really that important to this game (like meta).

I'm not sure we have a Detective, but if he/she exists throwing up a random lynch and letting the pieces fall might help set their Scumdar in the right direction.


Seen a player before.

On July 22 2011 11:18 Ace wrote:
I've seen you and Palmar play before thats why


Veiled gut reply from the word failure.

On July 22 2011 12:00 Ace wrote:
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On July 22 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Dragon

Actually, you're saying I'm not helpful to YOU. I've answered Jacinto's questions to his satisfaction, where Ace has still failed to do so. Palmar seems to think my opening statements were fine. You're speaking for town when you shouldn't be. Let town speak for themselves. Vote for me if you really think I'm scummy, but don't put words in everyone else' mouths. Let them think for themselves.



oh ok this makes it even easier.

## vote VisceraEyes


Spots DR downfall.

On July 22 2011 12:04 Ace wrote:
you want a shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you're making? I'd help you bro, but this champagne glass I'm holding is a little too smooth to put down.


Piggy back on DR, pushed RL bait four times prior and slaps a pinata.

On July 23 2011 02:47 Ace wrote:
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On July 23 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote:
How the fuck have you played 100 games? have you been playing for years?

Anyway


On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:59 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence.


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!


How can the town do worse than a RL day1.


I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.



This makes it look like you're perfectly fine with RL. That's a terrible idea and you should know it. And yes, I call out anyone who acts stupidly for acting stupidly.


##vote Palmar

Guys, listen up. This is such a ridiculous post, part of many that Palmar has made that should be looked at seriously.

Hold your biases for a second, stop and re-read the thread from the start of the game. You'll notice Palmar has been trying to undermine myself and DR22 on this Random Lynch issue. Not only did he put words in our mouths to make up stuff that wasn't said but he's even taking it a step further and now acting like "The Town" has decided Random Lynching is bad, and is thus Scummy if you support it.

Since when did we ever decide that Random Lynching is a Scum move?.

We never did. Even worse, how could he take that stance (deciding that "The Town" has made RL scummy) when he posted this:

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On July 22 2011 18:34 Palmar wrote:
lol, I can see why people say you're good Ace, you somehow convinced half the thread that a random lynch on day 1 is a good idea?



How is it that I could have convinced half the thread that a Random Lynch is a good idea, but within the same day you also have stated that the Town has decided otherwise? Like here:

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On July 22 2011 23:29 Palmar wrote:
On July 22 2011 23:15 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:26 Palmar wrote:
your mother.

But it's still interesting.

Ace proposes terrible plan, Jacinto and VE don't like it, DragonReborn actually likes it. Like.. would scum actually take the chance? The lynch isn't really 25% chance because the mafia can co-ordinate their votes, if they so please, so I think what DragonReborn did was stupid, but probably not scummy.


what exactly did i do that is stupid oh god of mafia?



You agreed with ace's plan.

From town perspective it doesn't make any sense, as judging by the sample of games I've played town has more like 50%+ chance of hitting mafia on day one, so if you're town, you should by logic never agree to this plan.





Not only is he speaking for the Town, but now he is throwing out some falsities. The town doesn't have a "more than 50% chance" of hitting Mafia on Day 1 in any game of Mafia unless the game is broken. This is such an utterly stupid and absurd statement I don't know how anyone who has ever played a game of Mafia hasn't called him out on it.

This quoted post is also another in a long line of Palmar misrepresenting DR's position. As DR asked him:


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On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Palmar

I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch.


To which Palmar has no response. The same as he can't list who I've convinced to RL.

This is typical newbie Scum play. Like I said, just re-read the thread from scratch. There is no way that someone that is BLINDLY tunneling, not even reading other player's posts and purposely misrepresenting their position is likely Town. That's just so many blatant bad moves that he should be lynched.

So once again, ## vote Palmar.



Piggy back hold.

On July 23 2011 19:50 Ace wrote:
You guys should drop your votes on DR22. There isn't a good case against him and Palmar is a far more detrimental player to the Town.

Then again my last post about reading the thread got ignored so I'm not even surprised it's come to this.

Can anyone show me an actual good case against DR22?


Attenuation factor: Blue exchange with Jacinto, too obvious, possible frame attempt.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 29 2011 23:33 GMT
#624
My side was with VE, I would've voted for myself. Blue is our last chance.
Fortress Fortune
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
July 31 2011 05:47 GMT
#638
gg
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