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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 20 2011 10:06 GMT
#50
/in
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 24 2011 10:41 GMT
#126
When is this going to start?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:16 GMT
#297
Well on the bright side. At least we can say with a very high likelihood that sandroba/ON are not both mafia. If they were san would just give him the wand in secret. No need to bring attention to it.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:22 GMT
#308
I am inclined to believe jackal is town as well. In the first PTP batman/joker was similar to this and batman/joker were placed on their expected sides (batman - town, joker - mafia).
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:24 GMT
#312
Heist that is true, but it is a very big risk for jackal to take. If it said something like You are Townie or something, Jackal would instantly be killed. Is it 100% proof he is town? No. But it certainly makes it less likely he would instantly claim it without giving it a 2nd thought.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:24 GMT
#313
Oh nm saw decons post
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:30 GMT
#320
Once he asks for the item he has to claim Voldemort doesn't he? He knows there is a harry potter out there right. So he knows as soon as he asks for the item he is giving hp a chance to immediately claim and say he is Voldemort yes?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:32 GMT
#321
So the real question is would a mafia be brazen enough to immediately ask for the item an hour into the game.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:56 GMT
#333
Yea I assume no one else can use the wand. I just say give it back to sandroba. I normally think double lynches for town are insanely good but considering mafia can pick when they want to roleblock. I would rather not risk it.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 02:59 GMT
#338
On July 25 2011 11:57 kitaman27 wrote:

What makes you think mafia has a roleblocker? Seems pretty unlikely to me.


Why is it unlikely? Last ptp there were several rbing roles.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 03:02 GMT
#345
Why would sandroba ever give it away if he could use it? I am fine with it just being returned to him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 03:12 GMT
#353
On July 25 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote:


Are you sure about that? It just seems unlikely enough that we shouldn't based our plans around the assumption.


Obviously I am not completely sure but if mafia has a rber it completely rapes the double lynch plan. And considering the roles given last time there is a decent chance they have at least 1 rber.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 03:22 GMT
#364
If you are town aren't mafia just going to now kill you tonight YM?

How many KP does the mafia have?

I don't see it in the op.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 10:02 GMT
#447
I agree with Syllo. Since when do mafia trade themselves 1 for 1 with townies? And not just that but trade themselves 1-1 for a townie who has 0 powers in a game where everyone is a power role.

If we assume that jackal is scum, then he likely lied and created the line about voldemort hiding as town right? So with that line and knowing that ON is town surely he must have known after ON died, that he was likely going to be fucked. It seems like a massive risk and an incredibly stupid thing for mafia to do.

Jackal in my experience generally seems to be pretty inactive and fly under the radar the first couple days of most games. It seems very unlike him to fake a pm and post it day 1 just to try and get 1 townie with no powers lynched.

So unless Jackal made a massive blunder this game, which is unlike his normal playing style. I am inclined to believe he is not mafia.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 10:11 GMT
#451
On July 25 2011 19:08 Palmar wrote:
I find it hard to believe that roles that were almost certainly created or modified by the host, then themed as arch-rivals are going to be on the same side, just read last ptp with batman and the joker.


I agree with this.

But man it would have to be such an incredibly bad play from Jackal to fake his pm and claim just to try and kill ON if he knew he was town. I think it is more likely that decon is just fucking with us than it is for Jackal to make that play as mafia.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 10:17 GMT
#453
Are you really using lylo as an argument to kill someone on day 1 of the game lol? If jackal survives to that point we will have a huge amount of additional information to judge him with.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 25 2011 10:23 GMT
#454
Claiming someone needs to be killed on day 1 because you are afraid of what will happen if they reach lylo is such a ridiculous scare tactic argument.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 26 2011 01:17 GMT
#832
I am going to vote for the person who is pushing mafia objectives the hardest, BC.

BC has just finished arguing with half the town for literally 10+ pages straight about whether people should trust SS's alignment checks. What exactly was accomplished during this entire argument? Was any scum hunting done? No. Was anyone's opinion about SS changed? No. Instead the thread is now filled with 10 pages full of a worthless argument. The argument 100% benefited the mafia.

I don't think anyone would argue BC is one of the best players to play on TL. So ask yourself which is more likely one of TL's best players decides to be stubborn and have a worthless argument that spams and prevents any scum hunting from being done for 10 pages as town or as mafia?

And just to summarize the things BC has done so far this game

A) Done 0 actual analysis of anyone the entire game, instead pushes for Jackal to be lynched based only on flavor from his role claim.

B) Single handedly derails and spams the thread preventing any scum hunting from being done.

C) Pushed hard for our dt, that killed a scum, to not use his checks. We obviously shouldn't blindly follow the checks but there is very little downside to at least having him check people. Even if we don't act on them, it can serve as an amazing breadcrumb. If supersoft dies and flips town we would know all his checks were true. Incredibly anti town to not at the very least have SS use his checks.

##vote BloodyC0bbler


As for who SS should check, BC should 100% not be checked. If he is mafia he is 99% the GF. So the next best candidate for a check is kita.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 26 2011 02:12 GMT
#860
On July 26 2011 11:02 kitaman27 wrote:
I know you guys apparently hate when I ask questions, but I had assume the godfather was assigned by deconduo. Is this true? If so, BC is just as likely to be the gf as everyone else. Is there a reason you don't want him checked?


I don't hate when you ask questions. You can ask me whatever you want. I just assumed mafia picked their GF since isn't that what happens in the vast majority of mafia games?

Decon did you assign the GF or did the mafia get to pick their own?

If decon randomly assigned the GF to the scum team then I am all for him being checked.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 26 2011 02:16 GMT
#864
Oh ok then yea 100% check BC over kita.
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