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[SPL] Post-Season Stars vs Khan Day 1

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yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 04:26:28
July 08 2011 18:04 GMT
#1
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Woongjin Stars vs Samsung KHAN
Day 1

Shinhan Bank Proleague '10-'11, Postseason week 1
Saturday, July 9, 2011 13:00 KST (04:00 GMT (+00:00))



The Maps
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Set 1: Circuit Breaker
Set 2: Neo Beltway
Set 3: La Mancha
Set 4: Alternative
Set 5: New Bloody Ridge
Set 6: Neo Aztec
Set 7: New Empire of the Sun

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Predictions

Day 1:
(T)Really < Circuit Breaker > (P)Grape
(T)Light < Neo Beltway > (T)Reality
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey < La Mancha > (P)Stork
free < Alternative > (Z)great
(P)Flying < New Bloody Ridge > (P)Brave
(Z)ZerO < Neo Aztec > (P)JangBi
(T)Light < New Empire of the Sun > (P)Stork

Woongjin Stars 3-4 Samsung KHAN


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Regardless of how the season ends, this is match I anticipated most. Two of my three favorite teams will battle for three days of sure-to-be-epic Brood War. Khan, team of never-ending-protoss, most struggle against the zerg hardened line of Stars. While ZvP is fairly balanced this proleague season, (51.1% thanks Bisu) Khan will have a tough time against ZvP masters (Z)ZerO and (Z)SoulKey. Likewise, Stars is facing problems outside their Zerg lineup. Terran ace (T)Light, has laughable TvP and (T)Really struggles to win without Dogspa interference. In form, Free can reverse the tide, but he struggles with a 35.3% win rate since March.

The match kicks off with Circuit Breaker. Terran Newbie (T)hOn_sin is a ridiculous 6-0 on this map. Slumping (P)Stork (7-3) would be a good choice to start off, except for (Z)SoulKey (9-6) waiting in the wings. Expect Khan to play it safe with (T)Reality (maybe (Z)great). Either way, I expect a slumping (Z)SoulKey or nervous (T)hOn_sin to drop the first set.
(Z)SoulKey < (T)Reality 0-1 KHAN
On Neo Beltway—aka Terran-Turtle-Town—expect Stars to send out (T)Light or (T)Really. (T)Reality is safe pick for KHAN, however (P)Stork would be the smart choice. (T)Light, who is actually 7-3 in his last 10 games could beat (P)Stork straight up. However, I think (T)Light will panic and cheese, or (T)Really will just fail.
(T)Light < (P)Stork 2-0 KHAN
Looking Grim for Stars, La Mancha might turn things around. (P)Grape, for what ever reason, is 9-3 on this map, and 61.5% vZ overall. We might see (T)Light (8-4) or even (P)Flying (7-3) from Stars. Still (P)Grape is a rookie not used to high pressure games.
Flying? > Grape 1-2 KHAN.
Alternative isn't really imba PvZ. (P)Bisu is imba PvZ, and without Bisu, this map is 50:50. Regardless, (Z)ZerO or (Z)SoulKey iS my pick from Stars. (Z)ZerO is only 3-2, but most of that is 2-2 ZvZ. Khan would do well to send out (Z)ByuL (3-1) or (Z)great, but they will send out someone like (Z)Juni or (P)Brave instead. Why? Trolluary.
(Z)ZerO > (Z)Juni 2-2
New Bloody Ridge. Even though Protoss has a losing record vs both Terran and Zerg, this has become this seasons PvP map. (P)JangBi (4-1) iS a popular choice on this map, but I see (P)Brave (5-4) being played instead. On the Stars side, (Z)Woon is 5-1, when you factor in the prelims, however this map is the only real chance to play free (3-2). If (P)JangBi isn't fielded, (P)free will bring out what is left of his A game. Else, (Z)Woon will 3-hatch hydra fake (P)Brave.
(Z)Woon > (P)Brave 3-2 Stars.
Neo Aztec, epic map of this season. If he hasn't come in to play yet, expect Khan to field (P)JangBi. Since the beginning of May, (P)JangBi is 13-2 in standard games, with closes losses to (Z)Hydra and (Z)Jaedong, and is currently sitting 4-2 on Neo Aztec. Stars might try out (Z)ZerO (6-3) or (T)Light (1-0), but if (P)JangBi is actually playing on this map, both would be wasted. Instead, I will be boring and predict (P)free. I know, I made the same prediction for Bloody Ridge, but at least in a mirror, (P)free stands for a BO win. No matter who Stars sends, (P)JangBi storms everything.
(P)free < (P)JangBi 3-3
New Empire of the Sun is a headache for both teams. A common TvT and PvT map, Khan wants to field (P)Stroke (2-1) or (P)JangBi (0-0 but still awesome), but ZvP is 3-1 and (Z)ZerO is to risky for (P)Stroke. Of course, Stars can't send (T)Light (0-3) with the high chance of a PvT. (Z)ZerO would be great, except this map is horribly imba TvZ. Khan will either play it safe with Terran (T)Reality or resend (P)JangBi. Stars could do the same with (T)Light or (T)Really, but this is the playoffs, and I don't see anyone as Ace but (Z)ZerO.
What we all want to see: (Z)ZerO <= (P)JangBi 3-4 KHAN.
What Trolluary will actually do: (Z)ZerO > (Z)great/(T)TurN 4-3 Stars





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(T)Really <Circuit Breaker> (P)Grape
(T)Light <Neo Beltway>(T)Reality
(Z)SoulKey[<La Mancha> (P)JangBi
(Z)Woon <Alternative> (P)Stork
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(Z)ZerO<New Bloody Ridge>(P)Brave
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(P)free<Neo Aztec>(Z)ByuL
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<New Empire of the Sun>



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(T)Really <Circuit Breaker> (P)Grape
(T)Light <Neo Beltway>(T)Reality
(Z)SoulKey<La Mancha> (P)JangBi
(Z)Woon<Alternative>(P)Stork
(Z)ZerO<New Bloody Ridge>(P)Brave
(P)free<Neo Aztec>(Z)ByuL
<New Empire of the Sun>
2 Woongjin Stars < Samsung Khan 4



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Unplayed Games Will Be Given Random Rating
Set 1: ★★★☆☆
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Good Game to kick off the playoffs. Kinda one sided, watch if you have time

Set 2: ★★★☆☆
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A great opener with interesting pushes devolves into drawn out underwelming macro game.
Watch if you have time.

Set 3: ★★☆☆☆
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Misstep by the loser, not a great game but worth the watching for player context

Set 4: ★★★☆☆
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The exact opposite of last game. Satisfying, watch if you have time

Set 5: ★★☆☆☆
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General Outclass. Not worth watching
Poll: Would You Recommend Game 5?

No (4)
 
50%

If You Have Time (4)
 
50%

Yes (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Would You Recommend Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If You Have Time



Set 6: ★☆☆☆☆
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Just No
Poll: Would You Recommend Game 6?

No (10)
 
59%

If You Have Time (4)
 
24%

Yes (3)
 
18%

17 total votes

Your vote: Would You Recommend Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If You Have Time



Set 7: ★★☆☆☆
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Not you expect from an ace game, sub-par play from both players

Polls were down for the first 4 sets.




STREAMS

eton7410 - English Commentary

[image loading]GTR!!!!!!!

Neo7




LIVE REPORTS

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Set 1
Set 2
Set 3
Set 4
Set 5
Set 6
Set 7





Interview
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On July 10 2011 12:55 Spica wrote:
For some reason, the usual interviewers only interviewed the team's ace players and coaches... Oh well, at least I finally got my hands on my first Stork interview! Fufufuu >D

(P)Stork: "I will not be unprepared"

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Samsung KHAN has had the experience of winning their first match against CJ Entus in the 08-09 post season and then losing from behind, missing their chance of going further in the league. Because they have experienced being in high spirits and having it all crash down in one moment before at that time, even though Samsung has won day 1 of the Round of 6 playoffs against Woongjin, Stork said, "We will not be unprepared for what is yet to come." Although his results in the regular season were not that good, even though Stork who has much experience in the post season is nervous about it, with the goal of wanting Samsung to go high into the upper leagues, now is a critical stage where everything must be able to go smoothly.


Q: Your thoughts on winning?
A: Out of all the Protosses on our team, my mood is the lowest among them, but it's a relief that I won. I'm happy that I was able to be of help to Samsung winning their 1st match in the Round of 6 playoffs.

Q: Did you get motivation from the rookies' victories?
A: (T)Reality did well as usual, and (P)Grape had also defeated (T)Really before in the regular season. Since I had faith that they would do well in the future as well, I thought that I just had to do well so our team could win, so it seemed that there weren't any problems.

Q: You played against a rookie, but did you expect your opponent's strategy at all?
A: I thought of all the possibilities that could be used against me and prepared for them. Rather than having a planned strategy in mind, I let my intuitions and instincts lead the game. The build that (Z)Woon used today was one that I practiced against Captain (Z)oDin in the past, and since I defended against it successfully it was a huge help to me.

Q: You encountered many "Nalbil"s from Zergs in the regular season; did experiencing so many help you out? [T/N: Okay, "Nalbil" is Korean slang for a clever build, but I believe that it means cheesy builds in this context. Poor Stork, dying to so much cheese this season. ]
A: Many of my losses in the regular season were due to build order losses, so I took that opportunity to think over it a lot. I wanted to have no trouble whether I won or lost, so the moment I saw that build today, I had a feeling that I had seen it before.

Q: Your goal for day 2's match?
A: I remember how we won our 1st match against CJ and then lost 2 years ago. I'll set aside my happiness over today's victory for a moment and practice hard for tomorrow's match. Tomorrow we'll definitely settle the score and go to the semi-playoffs.

Q: Any last words you want to say?
A: It's been a long time since we made the post season like this, so with half nervousness and half excitement I practiced until dawn, but I slept early in the morning and woke up. After a close hyung of mine who is currently enlisted in the military saw the articles that our team had advanced to the post season, he gave me a call. I hope that he stays healthy and takes care of his body in the military.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=46990

Congrats to Samsung for winning their first match against Woongjin, and I would translate Coach January's interview if the match wasn't starting in like 5 minutes! So here's a long time no see picspam instead!

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The happy winners!

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Jangbi: "y hullo thurrrrrr hurrrrrrrrr-"

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Stork: "GTFO OUTTA MY SEAT, MOVE BITCH-"

Soulkey: *Blocks ZerO's path*
ZerO: "Oh Soulkey... You think that you can be like that with me~?"

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*Suddenly appears behind Soulkey*
ZerO: "WELL THINK AGAIN, BITCH. HEADLOCK TIMEEEEEEEE-"
Soulkey: "Ow ow ow ow okay okay I regret it hyung, I regret it T___T"
hOn_sin: *Watching in the background* ".........."

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Trolluary: "Hmmm... To troll, or not to troll today.... That is the real question....."

Really gets sent out against Grape! What's Samsung's reaction to this?

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Stork: *Watching Really's play* "........."
Jangbi: "Damn bitch, what the hell was that? Even I could play better Terran than that!"

How about Woongjin's reaction then?

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ZerO: *Watching Really's play* "So... This is our 2nd best Terran playing right now?"
Light: "Yup."
ZerO: "And why do I have a feeling that our best Terran will get owned as well....?"

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Really: *After losing to Grape* "Did I... Did I just get Graped....? For the 2nd time this season.....?"

*Reality, after winning against Light*

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Reality: "Did you... get a taste of reality, Light?? Lololololol-"

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Stork: "January, this bitch keeps on bothering me! From stealing mah seat to nagging me during the game, you gotta keep his ass off me!"
Coach January: "Why do you keep on bothering Stork?! Do you have the hots for him or something?!? Do we have to deport you off to Woongjin?!?? I think that their team's style fits you better than here!!"

Samsung's reaction when free gets sent out:

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...a standing ovation.

Brave: "Oh man, we have this game in the bag already."
Sharp: "His name is so true! A free win to all!"
Stork: "Good work team, I'm proud of you guys."
Juni: "Heck, even I'm doing better than him these days!"

ByuL's BM ceremony against free:

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Well, at least he didn't do a manner hatch!

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Woongjin's coach Lee Jae Gyun: "...why did I send out those guys again? And why did I just do worse than Trolluary today?"

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Samsung KHAN, ready to win their next match today? Who knows!



the absurd is sin without god
yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 06:59:30
July 08 2011 18:04 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Are You Rooting For?

Samsung KHAN (8)
 
67%

Woongjin Stars (4)
 
33%

12 total votes

Your vote: Who Are You Rooting For?

(Vote): Woongjin Stars
(Vote): Samsung KHAN



Poll: Who Will Win The Series and Advance?

Samsung KHAN (7)
 
64%

Woongjin Stars (4)
 
36%

11 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win The Series and Advance?

(Vote): Woongjin Stars
(Vote): Samsung KHAN



Poll: Tonight's MVP? (Stars vs Khan)

Reality (23)
 
68%

Stork (6)
 
18%

Grape (2)
 
6%

Byul (2)
 
6%

Soulkey (1)
 
3%

Zero (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: Tonight's MVP? (Stars vs Khan)

(Vote): Reality
(Vote): Zero
(Vote): Stork
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Grape
(Vote): Byul



Special Thanks to Tonights Mods!
the absurd is sin without god
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 08 2011 18:10 GMT
#3
Light/Really/free/Zero/Soulkey/
vs.
Stork/Jangbi/Reality/Great/Brave/Grape

Seems like every match has the potential to be quite good... unlike the other series.
Meh
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 08 2011 18:15 GMT
#4
Go Khan!
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
July 08 2011 18:17 GMT
#5
Really doubt Khan will make. But I srsly hope they do.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Brycks7
Profile Joined December 2009
Peru183 Posts
July 08 2011 18:29 GMT
#6
Khan fighting!
Gay 4 Stork
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 08 2011 18:29 GMT
#7
So excited to finally see Stars make the playoffs. I started following the BW scene in November '08 and quickly latched on to Zero as my favorite player and Stars as my team by extension. In both previous seasons I followed it seemed like Stars should have been good enough to make the playoffs but then both seasons they massively choked at some point. Hopefully with Zero finally making a SL final and Stars making the playoffs the age of choking is over!
Zero fighting.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 18:40:39
July 08 2011 18:38 GMT
#8
On July 09 2011 03:29 Jaksiel wrote:
So excited to finally see Stars make the playoffs. I started following the BW scene in November '08 and quickly latched on to Zero as my favorite player and Stars as my team by extension. In both previous seasons I followed it seemed like Stars should have been good enough to make the playoffs but then both seasons they massively choked at some point. Hopefully with Zero finally making a SL final and Stars making the playoffs the age of choking is over!

Coach Lee finally realised that the only way they were ever going to make the play-offs is to buy another team's Ace player. And what better player to get than the one you rejected when he was an amateur. When in doubt, splash the cash.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 18:41:05
July 08 2011 18:40 GMT
#9
I think Stars will make it past Khan np and I hope they do, woongjin is my second favorite team afterall.


On July 09 2011 03:38 Ryo wrote:
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On July 09 2011 03:29 Jaksiel wrote:
So excited to finally see Stars make the playoffs. I started following the BW scene in November '08 and quickly latched on to Zero as my favorite player and Stars as my team by extension. In both previous seasons I followed it seemed like Stars should have been good enough to make the playoffs but then both seasons they massively choked at some point. Hopefully with Zero finally making a SL final and Stars making the playoffs the age of choking is over!

Coach Lee finally realised that the only way they were ever going to make the play-offs is to buy another team's Ace player. And what better player to get than the one you passed on when he was an amateur. When in doubt, splash the cash.


Lol, someone's bitter about Light's trade.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 08 2011 18:43 GMT
#10
On July 09 2011 03:40 ZeaL. wrote:
I think Stars will make it past Khan np and I hope they do, woongjin is my second favorite team afterall.


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On July 09 2011 03:38 Ryo wrote:
On July 09 2011 03:29 Jaksiel wrote:
So excited to finally see Stars make the playoffs. I started following the BW scene in November '08 and quickly latched on to Zero as my favorite player and Stars as my team by extension. In both previous seasons I followed it seemed like Stars should have been good enough to make the playoffs but then both seasons they massively choked at some point. Hopefully with Zero finally making a SL final and Stars making the playoffs the age of choking is over!

Coach Lee finally realised that the only way they were ever going to make the play-offs is to buy another team's Ace player. And what better player to get than the one you passed on when he was an amateur. When in doubt, splash the cash.


Lol, someone's bitter about Light's trade.

Not bitter but sad. All MBC fans/players still are. The points are true though.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
July 08 2011 18:44 GMT
#11
gogo khan!!! Stork and Jangbi better win.
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 08 2011 18:46 GMT
#12
imho the winner of this will easily defeat the winner of kt vs stx to advance into the semifinal against cj.

well, this is assuming stork actually puts the anime/cellphone games/wow aside for the playoffs. but i think he will be back in ass-kicking form in time. ^^
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 18:54:28
July 08 2011 18:53 GMT
#13
(Z)ZerO, (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey, (T)Light, (T)Really, and (P)free should be unstoppable on paper.

But Khan will win with their good rookie lineup. (P)Stork will return to form, and (P)JangBi can beat anyone right now.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3368 Posts
July 08 2011 18:57 GMT
#14
Good luck Khan! ^_^
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 08 2011 19:01 GMT
#15
GOoo stars. I've always liked free, light, and zero.
vexyz
Profile Joined July 2011
96 Posts
July 08 2011 19:44 GMT
#16
Hoping Khan wins and Jangbi gets 1-2wins
<3
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 08 2011 20:04 GMT
#17
Go Stars! The triple threat of Light, SK, and Zero need to really pull through to beat Khan.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 08 2011 20:16 GMT
#18
storkkkkk!!!
Dear Sixsmith...
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
July 08 2011 20:20 GMT
#19
Ahhh darn.. I like both of these teams

Well, may the best man win and the winner of this will be the one to challenge the Holy Empire SKT in the Grand FInals
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
July 08 2011 20:21 GMT
#20
Jangbang incoming.
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