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On to the substance of everything, GM's plan seems good especially because people are actually accepting it but that's basically been decided already, more importantly I definitely think we should go operation dunkirk, mainly because the other two options just seem bad. Gunnerside seems like a good option and might be but I'm just way too worried about the clause "up to 3" which either means that just a number from 1-3 or 0-3 will be chosen, or that the mafia can try to use their nukes before they're gotten rid of, which would perhaps be OK because we could use that to figure out who the mafia are, but it still isn't a great thing to rely on. Watchtower is just bad. On a related note, Kurumi arguing for Watchtower is really suspicious, I just can't imagine anyone actually believing that this will be the best option for the town, the only situation where I could see a townie actually wanting Watchtower is one where they truly believed that we should be worried about us/mafia launching nukes all over the place, but Kurumi didn't warrant that at all, he just sort of made up bad reasons that the other plans were bad, which makes it seem like he was really trying to force watchtower. | ||
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##Dunkirk Operation Also I wrote that over the course of like an hour tabbing in and out so I want to expand on my note on Kurumi. He seems more and more scummy the more I think about what he wrote, he voted for what I think is accepted to be the worst option, one that no one else has advocated, and is the only one that has a real potential to hurt town. (Oh sure it probably won't hurt town but really, the other two have clear and only positive possibilities, that one, especially while we use nukes well as we seem to be now, could definitely have negative results) In addition his only warrant for it are two weak arguments showing why we shouldn't do the other two, he doesn't actually argue why that one is good and I think that's a sign that he know's it's suspicious to try and take away our nukes, and just doesn't want it to be obvious. But his arguments against the other two are pretty bad. Against dunkirk he just makes the claim that Axis will probably get a counter-plan, something that is not verifiable or hinted at at all, (and even if they do at least we waste their plan, but if he's scum he wouldn't want to have to waste one) Against gunnerside he says that it takes away tomorrows campaign, and nothing I've seen indicates that just because it takes two days we lose our campaign tomorrow. (If I'm wrong about that last one please correct me and add that to reasons that dunkirk is the best choice in my above post) | ||
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On July 06 2011 08:33 JeeJee wrote: Well, let's see, lurker-wise I'm looking at Mataza One post, out of nowhere suggesting existence of weird nukes. To me this stands out because it's such a strange thing to think about, unless you of course have special nukes. Later confirmed by Caller that "not all nukes are created equal", so weird nukes may indeed exist. No other posts. Would townies have special nukes -.^? ##Vote:Mataza Honestly I think either both sides probably have special nukes, and I don't think that he would have brought it up if he were mafia. | ||
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##Vote: Sinani206 also, for two reasons. 1. As people have pointed out he does look suspicious 2. The only other vote really happening is Mataza which seems to be 1 person starting it then 2 more saying they disagree with the first but will vote for the hell of it, if your guys goals were to start discussion/activity you've succeeded, now you should either get some real reasons to vote him or back off. As a last note, this vote is purely pressure if Sinani starts to contribute I'll change my vote immediately to Kurumi who I think is much more likely scum. | ||
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On July 06 2011 10:55 sinani206 wrote: This post is scummy as fuck. It sounds like you and sandroba are both scum, and you screwed up by sharing his scumslip and now you want to come back and defend your ally. Why should your vote hinge (to use your word) on which operation he voted for? Your vote should be for the scummiest player. The whole lurker excuse is complete bullshit. ##Vote: sandroba I propose a nuke of Curu Ok so my pressure vote is now a half pressure/half legitimate accusation, because it's really scummy to hop back into a thread where you're being accused and just throw out one mediocre and one really weak accusation, it's still possible that sinani is just scared town, but he needs to post more to judge. | ||
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On July 06 2011 11:50 sandroba wrote: I like that no one comented ON MY HUGE FUCKING CASE on palmar that proves he is scum, then vote for me for something I already explained. First of all you are calling that scum slip (it's a mistake btw, based on previous games knowledge) before we even know how many fucking kp mafia actually has. Good job. Also anyone that agreed to my plan should be voting to lynch palmar regardless since he broke the no nukes rule, shorttened the day and possibly took away an extra life from another player for no reason. He didn't even follow his own plan. God knows if he has nukes or not. Use your head and vote for palmar. He is 100% scum. I think you made a strong case but would like to focus on one or two people at a time and right now I really want to focus on sinani (then probably kurumi who is basically lurking after making a really scummy post) who I pressure voted just because of some slight scumminess/lurking but his response to everyone was way over the top and really suspicious, so I think we should keep on that for now. | ||
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This lets us still get a real lynch out today, also if we keep to this policy which nuking him would do then I don't think we will need to worry too much about conspirator wins. I would like to see what the arguments are for a Ciryandor/Syllo lynch. Also With the day ending at the landing of the last fired nuke, will we see the results of the nuke before our vote is finalized or is it simultaneous? Also is there anything in place to keep us from firing a nuke every 12 hours right before the day ends to create a never-ending day? | ||
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On July 07 2011 00:59 Palmar wrote: I think the day gets extended for the duration of the nuke flight, not sure though. yeah it does according to op. | ||
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On July 07 2011 01:08 Drazerk wrote: Caller is a baller and I am not worthy of worshipping him All right with that out of the way, I completely agree with palmar we shouldn't be nuking as we have to remember conspirators / Scum will fire nukes off if they are about to be lynched in retaliation. as and so the world radiation will rise every time we lynch one which could lead to a terrible situation. After Mataza I have made it clear who I think should be lynched ( Syllo / Ciryandor Read my previous reasons as for why ) Ok I was willing to go for nuking mataza but that wasn't actually a must, I just want to keep to policy so ignore my vote for the nuke. ##Vote: Mataza | ||
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Ok so apparently over the course of like 4 hours everything here went to shit. We need to stop firing nukes, and frankly we need to AS A TOWN kill all the people involved in this fuckfest, sure some might be townies, but I guarantee that between the 4 or 5 people that are just throwing around nukes we get at least one town, BUT NO ONE JUST FIRE. We need to agree and stop fucking retaliating. | ||
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Could we get a list of nukes currently in the air and when they are going to land please? | ||
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On July 07 2011 09:55 GMarshal wrote: What an ironic phrase. The thread isn't the only thing blowing up. You could say things have gone... critical. You know GMarshal, I really think that you're *puts on sunglasses* blowing things out of proportion | ||
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On July 08 2011 09:03 ~OpZ~ wrote: Navillus...A question to you also....Whom in the town do you feel is scum? And between GMarshal, YM? Honestly I have no idea, I've been doing my best to keep up with the thread and am up to date on reading, but I really have not had the time to analyze the thread, especially with one as unbelievably convoluted as this. Right now I'm really busy IRL and so can't give any solid analysis, but I'll be freeing up over the next couple days and starting to analyze/contribute more. | ||
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On July 09 2011 06:49 TheAwesomeAll wrote: wtf is the maiginot line? its ever been in a mafai game? It was the line of what might very generously be called "defenses" between France and Germany before World War II, suffice to say it was unsuccessful. | ||
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##vote ULTRA I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying. | ||
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