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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 25 2011 14:42 GMT
#41
/In. Gimme a gun bitch.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 03:16 GMT
#153
Role received. Canon fodder checking in. I'm going to bed. Be happy to read what you guys put up overnight. G'night.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 13:39 GMT
#311
Hey I have an idea. Let's drop the lurker discussion. RoL in his divine infinite wisdom put mechanics into the game that allow blues to specifically deal with the issue. It would seem to me any further discussion of the issue is an attempt by scum to lure out our dt's and vigis. It serves no other purpose at this point. Would seem to me that's what got LSB shot. Scum took a chance on him being a DT.

Sinani206- Wtf dude? Leaders are scum? You prefer town to be all about flailing arms and pissing contests? Aimless drifting and lynch votes easily influenced by your scumbuddies? Seriously man that's the scummiest assertion so far in this game.


##Vote:Sinani206


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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 19:57 GMT
#406
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 29 2011 02:24 Mig wrote:
The case against sinani is unbelievably weak. He has been useless every game he has played but he has been a lot more active this game than when he was mafia. I am suspicious of anyone who just insta jumped on his bw, palmar/db/draz/jackal.

Jackal especially looks incredibly suspicious to me. Jackal is a very good vet and he has played the last couple of games with sinani and knows how bad he is. Yet he comes in posts a very short attack of sinani votes and disappears wtf? Where is the normal jackal who actually is active and puts pressure on people?

Awesome I disagree with the GM lynch. I think GM has been trying to be pro town and when I have seen him play mafia in the past he is rarely this outspoken and active. This basically seems like GM town play 101. There are way better targets for a day 1 lynch than someone who is as active as him.

Where do you guys get the impression that I'm good from? Seriously. I hate day 1 and day 2. I'm fucking clueless. And the normal Jackal did put pressure on Sinani with a 6 not a 1. The purpose of which is to gauge reactions from not only Sinani but others that either rush to defend or rush to agree. I rarely vote during the first half of a day cycle so get over it.
Nor do I feel compelled to post 300 meaningless posts/day. Nor do my posts usually run much longer than this one.



On June 29 2011 03:01 Mig wrote:

The better targets day 1 I think are guys like Jackal who aren't contributing and are playing out of character or someone like Eiii who promises to be pro town and contribute his thoughts then goes right back to lurking without actually providing any content.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 02:31 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

So just because he is active as he was when he played town, he must be town now as well? In that case Jackal is townie, since he led a foolish day 1 lynch in the game i played with him as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
Metagaming is all good but focus on my arguments please, he got SUPER defensive when i accused Hiro, auto voted for me, went from super aggressive to backing up in 2 posts flat, made his voice worthless by saying he was looking for my 'tic'. What do you think about that?


No no active definitely does not just equal town, but I mean in general I would prefer to lynch someone less active day 1 because as long as GM is alive he is going to be active and so we are going to have a ton of information to use to determine whether he is town or mafia.

Hm I do agree though that GM's case against you is incredibly weak. But I will wait to see how he follows up on it before instantly declaring him scum for it.

I will say that If GM continues with just posting pro town advice and not any actual good analysis and scum hunting I would be willing to change my opinion about him.


Typing bullshit to see your name in the thread isn't being active.
When I have something worthwhile to say I'll say it.
And yes I am somewhat out of character. I'm sick as a dog and have been sleeping about 18 hours/day for the last week. Sorry if you're disappointed. I'm not here to impress you.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 20:01 GMT
#408
On June 29 2011 04:12 Lanaia wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
sorry im at my friend's house. I'll go read the thread once i get home.

BTW, im Kenpachi and Im a Townie.

What the hell Kenpachi? Why... WHY did you say that? I feel this probably wasn't in your best interests, sorry bud. However, you're actually town, so...



And posts like these make the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Scum slip?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 21:32 GMT
#441
On June 29 2011 06:29 GGQ wrote:
Havent followed this thread at all, will be back later tonight with a post, I hope.

I'm not mafia, though.

You're always mafia bro.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 21:52 GMT
#447
Sorry to hear that. Best of luck Rean.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 22:05 GMT
#450
Prick.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 22:16 GMT
#455
On June 29 2011 07:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

Still love ya man.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 23:43 GMT
#471
On June 29 2011 08:11 syllogism wrote:
I already stated that Drazerk is suspicious and if the lynch was to be held right now, I would be voting for him. I will be looking through more post histories tomorrow and vote accordingly. There are a lot of players who haven't been contributing anything at all while obviously being present (jackal for one has been posting one liners that aren't even game related) and he doesn't always play like that, so he is definitely one I will be paying more attention to. Sinani206's play is different from his town play in XLII, but he is also new so I'm not sure if that meta is helpful.

I have not played with you before that I recall. You'll find 90% of my posts are one liners. Not of the type on the last page however. If you'd like I'll explain them to you. @ GGQ I poked him because I always poke him.I would have been remiss if I hadn't. It's a tradition. @ Rean I really hope the best for him. I like him and wished him well. @ RoL he nuked me and others followed by jk.His post has been deleted. I called him a prick.
My previous 1 liner was at Lania regarding her statement that she "knew" Kenpachi was town. It looks like a scumslip. I called her on it. You'll find most of my posts, particularly on day 1 and 2 to be in that style. Feel free to keep your eye on me. The only danger I pose you is possibly boring you to death. Unless of course you are scum. Come day 3 or 4 I begin to get quite proficient at nailing scummy asses to the wall.
Right now I am still pretty much clueless. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I'll call people on shit when I see shit worthy of calling people on.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 00:04 GMT
#475
How much time is left in the day?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 16:17 GMT
#593
On June 30 2011 00:54 youngminii wrote:
drazerk is more scummy than visceraeyes in that our only DT was tunneling him

that's all you need

The question there is who did he really check? A better argument can be made that he checked GMarshall.

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 16:59 GMT
#603
On June 30 2011 01:30 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 01:17 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 30 2011 00:54 youngminii wrote:
drazerk is more scummy than visceraeyes in that our only DT was tunneling him

that's all you need

The question there is who did he really check? A better argument can be made that he checked GMarshall.



Exactly this. You are betting on the fact that he checked Drazerk, when we have no way of knowing for sure. In fact, he could have been roleblocked or not have used his check at all yet. It brings to mind Mafia XXXIX, in which Mig flipped DT in the endgame. Everyone was convinced he checked me because he randomly said he thought I was town twice. However, the obvious read was not correct - he had checked someone completely different.

Use analysis, not assumption.

TAA also had his vote on GM. There are also a few people voting for Drazerk that I am getting some scummy vibes from. I am not calling him town for that reason or for any other I would just prefer to wait a while yet before I vote for anybody.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 17:25 GMT
#612
On June 30 2011 02:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 01:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 30 2011 01:30 chaos13 wrote:
On June 30 2011 01:17 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 30 2011 00:54 youngminii wrote:
drazerk is more scummy than visceraeyes in that our only DT was tunneling him

that's all you need

The question there is who did he really check? A better argument can be made that he checked GMarshall.



Exactly this. You are betting on the fact that he checked Drazerk, when we have no way of knowing for sure. In fact, he could have been roleblocked or not have used his check at all yet. It brings to mind Mafia XXXIX, in which Mig flipped DT in the endgame. Everyone was convinced he checked me because he randomly said he thought I was town twice. However, the obvious read was not correct - he had checked someone completely different.

Use analysis, not assumption.

TAA also had his vote on GM. There are also a few people voting for Drazerk that I am getting some scummy vibes from. I am not calling him town for that reason or for any other I would just prefer to wait a while yet before I vote for anybody.


Just make sure you take into account that most European votes will be locked in around 5-6 hours from now, so if you have a case to make, make it sooner rather than later.

So wait all you need, but don't wait too long.

And yes, there are bound to be scum on his wagon, that will be the case whether he flips red or green.

I'm well aware of the time constraints. I am also aware that scum will bus a stupid team member. I've done it myself. As of know I have no real case to make on anybody. Just my own personal feelings and reactions to individual posts. Nothing that makes me want to break out my mining equipment yet.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 20:08 GMT
#662
On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote:
You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you?

Nobody is an established anything until they flip.

On Gmarshals absence. I do know he had vehicle problems last night. I was in a game he was hosting on another site last night and his day post was about an hour late. He made his daypost with an apology for being late I PMed him to find out which asshole killed me and he responded immediately with an apology and reason for being late He apparently has had an incident or accident of some sort. I haven't seen him online there of here since. This is not a defense of GM I'm just sharing what I know.

Palmar you may lead whomever you wish but forgive me if I don't feel inclined to follow you.

I still feel Sinani206 is the most likely to be scum out of all those that have been put forth. Bear in mind my success rate on naming scum on day 1 is about 20%
My success rate at getting them lynched is even lower.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#663
On June 30 2011 05:08 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ok, so looking at the people who are up for lynching right now, drazerk looks like the scummiest by far, because of the major slip he made.

He not only martyred, but he martyred, and then about three posts later in the thread, he pointed out how he did the same thing as town. At first I though he might have been terrible town, but the fact that he explicitly states that he does the same thing as a townie looks scummy as all hell to me. Just a last ditch response to pressure that he reacted badly to, in my eyes. Ad on his weird flopping with GM and his attack on Sinani, and that's good enough for me to lynch on.

##Vote: Drazerk

Also, could someone explain the case on visc to me better? I'm not too too familiar with his play in other games, but it looks like the case on him is:

1. Isn't playing to his town meta
2. Doesn't contribute

I don't think that's enough for me to be comfortable lynching on, because looks a lot like he's just lazy. How does he normally act that makes this such a jarring change?

I saw that too but it didn't register like that until you just pointed it out Mr. Wiggles.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 20:43 GMT
#680
On June 30 2011 05:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Compulsive vig should be discussed a little. But now is not the time for that. Night phase, or the day he starts being able to shoot.

Night phase? We ain't got not stinkin' night phase.


And don't get me wrong Palmar. I'm not saying you're anti town. I'm not saying you're scum. I'm not saying anything about your alignment. I'm simply saying I have no faith in your ability to do anything other than shoot detectives.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 22:34 GMT
#719
On June 30 2011 07:22 Lanaia wrote:
Also, is it just me or does it look like several people will be modkilled for not voting?

I for one have no intentions of being modkilled. Nor have I firmly decided on who to vote for yet.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 22:52 GMT
#724
Who the fuck is Torqez and why is he getting no love?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 29 2011 22:52 GMT
#726
And as far as that goes Mig please come back.
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