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GosuSheep
Profile Joined June 2010
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 23:38:44
June 16 2011 23:37 GMT
#1
About Me:
1000elo masters. World-class video game player (not in SC2 however-.-). I am familiar with training myself to improve.

Introduction:
I've been working on a couple things to improve my mouse accuracy. I'm sure that you all are like me and have absolutely atrocious mouse accuracy. This is easy to determine if you have your mouse at the top right of the screen, and can click on a unit at the bottom left of the screen with MAXIMUM speed. If you can't, you probably need some work Even if you're unable to click on a link on this webpage without tracing the mouse to the area you want to click (instead of moving your mouse as fast as you can KNOWING you're going to hit the link), then you need some work.

Mouse acceleration:
I've seen some people advocate for mouse acceleration. As a person who switched from acceleration to no-acceleration and have noticed a HUGE improvement, I believe it is undeniable that mouse acceleration hinders your you accuracy. Why memorize speed AND hand distance to move the mouse a certain amount of pixels? Just memorize the hand distance! Less things to memorize, more easily attainable mastery!

How do you remove mouse acceleration? Well, I've read a couple things that say windows requires registry changes and the like in order to completely remove acceleration. I HAVE done those reg changes, but I will not post them here. If you want to find these proposed reg changes, google them. Also, I don't use a mac or linux, so you Unix people will have to google that as well.

On windows, in order to remove acceleration (or at least change vector acceleration to independent axes acceleration), you can Uncheck the "Enhanced Mouse Precision" box in the Mouse Properties control panel thingy. You will also want to increase your mouse pointer speed by 1 tick on that bar above the checkbox. That will give you a speed that you are familiar with.

Mouse practice:
I have been using the typical mouse practice games as ways to benchmark progress in my accuracy improvement:

http://www.bigfatarcade.com/swf/discdash.swf
http://www.missionred.com/games/reflexte.html

However, my primary PRACTICE for improving is using the following image that I simply created with mspaint:

http://i.imgur.com/avHOY.png

With this image, I move my mouse around, trying to get it closest to the center of a random box as I can. My general procedures are as follows:

(1) Try to make each route from one box to another as straight as possible
(2) If you miss the center of the box (overshoot, undershoot, or land on the lines), you must go back to the previous box and do it 3 more times. For every time you miss, do it another 3 times. If you notice that you are doing very poorly, SLOW DOWN.
(3) If I am noticing an increase in accuracy, I may increase my speed.
(4) After a while, I may test my accuracy in the aforementioned games and compare scores, accuracy %'s, and time.

I think it is very important to use the above method for practicing accuracy. I have noticed that when I play the GAMES instead of use the IMAGE, my precision is not fantastic and it is NOT improving too much. As I learned from my piano lessons, it is better to do things slowly and correctly than to do them quickly and incorrectly. After doing them slowly and correctly a lot, increase speed.

You guys:
I hope this helps some people. I'd also like to hear your methods of practicing and perhaps even your scores on the above mentioned games!

For Disc Dash: I can typically get around 500k before my hand gets tired or I get bored.
For Reflexte: I ALWAYS die on level 5, and my accuracy % is usually 85 - 90%.
http://sc2ranks.com/us/388259/GosuSheep
NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 23:44:58
June 16 2011 23:44 GMT
#2
I now play osu for this. 4-5 star beatmaps.
lazydino
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
June 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#3
I'd imagine the popular game Osu helps with this as well
"I have this moron thing that I do, it's called thinking" - George Carlin
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 23:45:56
June 16 2011 23:45 GMT
#4
I've tried various mouse accuracy games and found them quite ineffective due to various reasons. Though Mission Red is surprisingly addictive. Going to use that MSpaint image, goddamn that's so simple and perfect while listening to a podcast. Beats trying to hit the X on tabs and random areas while browsing. Kind of wonder why I never thought of just placing a few dots in Paint, lol, simplicity.

I'd like to add one point though, certain mouses have angle snapping enabled by default. This basically means it tries to help you draw a straight line, it essentially adds an artificial ruler to your cursor. That's obviously quite terrible as you want 100% control of your mouse. The MX518 in particular has this issue, and as far as I'm aware you can't even turn it off with that one.

Gotta ask though, world class video game player in what video game?
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
June 16 2011 23:46 GMT
#5
On June 17 2011 08:44 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
I now play osu for this. 4-5 star beatmaps.


I have difficulty finding music I like for osu, there is just not enough ska :'(
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
June 16 2011 23:46 GMT
#6
I've made a custom map of reflexte, just search for reflex when creating a game and it should pop up, afaik it's uploaded on US as well...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24877 Posts
June 16 2011 23:48 GMT
#7
I play on an Intel mac, was thinking of installing Windows just to disable mouse acceleration which is just a total pain in the ass

Any fellow Macfags got any advice in turning off mouse accel? I have looked around, even put in code to the console, that can sort it out but screws up my tracking speed, and has to be re-input every single time I restart.

Thanks in advance, cool advice too btw. Also what game were you world class in, as asked above
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
June 16 2011 23:52 GMT
#8
On June 17 2011 08:48 Ubertron wrote:
I play on an Intel mac, was thinking of installing Windows just to disable mouse acceleration which is just a total pain in the ass

Any fellow Macfags got any advice in turning off mouse accel? I have looked around, even put in code to the console, that can sort it out but screws up my tracking speed, and has to be re-input every single time I restart.

Thanks in advance, cool advice too btw. Also what game were you world class in, as asked above


I've heard of an app called USB Overdrive that can disable mouse acceleration, as well as a System Preferences panel to disable it. I haven't tried either (I just play with acceleration, because i'm not that serious about starcraft), so I couldn't say if they work or not.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 23:54:44
June 16 2011 23:54 GMT
#9
I play Osu as well. Problem with mini-games like these is that you get bored pretty quick. But with Osu, it is at least fun and a bit addicting, and you can always pick the songs that you like. So I can play that for 1-2 hours without getting bored
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
June 16 2011 23:54 GMT
#10
OP: Just out of curiosity, what kind of accomplishments have you achieved that make you a "world class video game player"?
NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
June 17 2011 00:01 GMT
#11
On June 17 2011 08:46 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 08:44 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
I now play osu for this. 4-5 star beatmaps.


I have difficulty finding music I like for osu, there is just not enough ska :'(


I find myself playing the Nightcored songs aswell as a rock.
Nightrain
Profile Joined August 2010
481 Posts
June 17 2011 00:04 GMT
#12
On June 17 2011 08:54 Fubi wrote:
I play Osu as well. Problem with mini-games like these is that you get bored pretty quick. But with Osu, it is at least fun and a bit addicting, and you can always pick the songs that you like. So I can play that for 1-2 hours without getting bored


it's mostly anime music and not everyone likes them.

also this has to be like the millionth "mouse precision,accuracy,quickness etc." thread.
If at first you don't succeed, you fail.
GosuSheep
Profile Joined June 2010
United States119 Posts
June 17 2011 00:17 GMT
#13
Ya'll may laugh at me for the game that I am world-class at, but in reality, it requires a shit ton of the same kind of skills that you need in other popular PC games and requires a good 180-200 APM.

The game is a custom scenario on Warcraft III called Sheep Tag. I was the main map developer for 5 years, played and placed well in world-wide tournaments, and still, today, help manage the community.
http://sc2ranks.com/us/388259/GosuSheep
Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
June 17 2011 00:21 GMT
#14
On June 17 2011 08:37 GosuSheep wrote:

On windows, in order to remove acceleration (or at least change vector acceleration to independent axes acceleration), you can Uncheck the "Enhanced Mouse Precision" box in the Mouse Properties control panel thingy. You will also want to increase your mouse pointer speed by 1 tick on that bar above the checkbox. That will give you a speed that you are familiar with.


I heard that Starcraft II ignores the Enhanced Mouse Precision option, so changing that setting doesn't turn off acceleration, can anyone verify?
.Mthex-
Profile Joined May 2011
United States168 Posts
June 17 2011 00:28 GMT
#15
On June 17 2011 09:17 GosuSheep wrote:
Ya'll may laugh at me for the game that I am world-class at, but in reality, it requires a shit ton of the same kind of skills that you need in other popular PC games and requires a good 180-200 APM.

The game is a custom scenario on Warcraft III called Sheep Tag. I was the main map developer for 5 years, played and placed well in world-wide tournaments, and still, today, help manage the community.


that is a little laughable, but being world class at anything is still cool.
"If you tricked him, then he is tricked" - Artosis
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 00:35:44
June 17 2011 00:33 GMT
#16
On June 17 2011 08:37 GosuSheep wrote:You will also want to increase your mouse pointer speed by 1 tick on that bar above the checkbox. That will give you a speed that you are familiar with.


Do NOT change the "select a pointer speed" option to anything other than the 6th tick (default). If you want accurate information on mouse acceleration see: http://www.overclock.net/mice/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html


Remember how I said the best setting was 6?!

This is because the inputs from the mouse are untouched and relate directly 1:1 with cursor movement. Every "tick" of the mouse the cursor moves 1 pixel your cursor on setting 6. On setting 8 for example, one mouse "tick", moves your cursor two pixels. Setting 4 on the other hand, ignores every other input from your mouse, so the mouse moves two pixels before your cursor moves 1.

We want the raw unscaled movement data from your mouse..
GosuSheep
Profile Joined June 2010
United States119 Posts
June 17 2011 00:33 GMT
#17
@Suichoy, I don't think that's true. I've definitely noticed a difference.

@Mthex, Dota is a warcraft3 custom scenario
http://sc2ranks.com/us/388259/GosuSheep
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
June 17 2011 00:48 GMT
#18
I would suggest minesweeper! It requires accurate clicking and brains.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
NeXiLe
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada262 Posts
June 17 2011 00:52 GMT
#19
If only I had a way of making my mouse sensitivity THE SAME in every game I play as well as on my desktop><
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 01:10:57
June 17 2011 01:10 GMT
#20
Seeing as this picture is a windows picture(also, the games), is there a guide on how to synchronize your starcraft sensitivity such that it is exactly equal to your windows sensitivity? Without having to buy a new mouse? I have a 400 dpi intellimouse optical 1.1 and there's no higher dpi mouse available in the same shape as that mouse.

I suspect that memorizing hand distances in windows wouldn't be very helpful unless you have the same distances in Starcraft.
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