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LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 11 2011 05:02 GMT
#55
/in if there is a spot as well.

LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 13 2011 23:49 GMT
#127
Got my role and excited to play!
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 16 2011 20:03 GMT
#391
After seeing Kenpachis post I can see where he is coming from about BC.
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Wanting DT's to check outside of the list, making him safe from check if red(but not if gf ofc). After seeing RoL jump to his defense after Kens vote, I think RoL and BC might both be red thus not having DT's check into the list helps them even more.
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On June 14 2011 13:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
We as a group will draw insane scrutiny from town and as such dt checks should be used on anyone not us. The group of us should be forced to prove our worth to town. It also provides us with a list that if there are any reds in shooting into becomes dangerous as it lowers the possible hiding spots for them. This should effectively keep veteran townies alive and kicking longer while letting medics work elsewhere.

Dts should be firing into people who are likely to be inactive, or have posted something insanely suspicious. Medics should protect anyone who is not listed above.
Note: This is for night 0 and potentially night 1 only. Past that time frame enough information should be garnered in thread for blues to act properly and the vets to properly distinguish sides.



Next is his only real vote or FoS from him. All other posts of his don't have much scum hunting. He votes for node so he at least got a vote in but it will pretty much go unnoticed.
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On June 16 2011 09:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I would like to say however that until he makes a post in the thread I will be sticking a vote on node. He didn't post anything serious during night 0 and he has been afk thus far into day 1. However I would like to get him talking.
##vote node


Rest of his posts mainly just general talk about lurkers lists and bad plans. No real scum hunting just pressure on lurkers.
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On June 16 2011 12:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Its a horrrrrrrrrible strategy and by know means should be used.
Had mataza not stressed how bad this idea was I would be pushing for his lynch right now. The only saving grace of it is that it will have people talking.


On June 16 2011 12:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Oh it is a terrrrrrrible plan don't get me wrong. But if the options are take shitty ideas to force discussion or let town lurk itself to death theres only one option really.

This all being said, people have to start talking. We have FoS on sinani, aidnai, and Ilovejohn. I would like to hear from everyone in regards to these three. I will also propose this. If by say noon EST thursday (tommorrow for me) we have not yet heard from people on the zodiac list assume most of the 3 on the lynch docket are likely to be town or mostly town and we instead lynch an obvious uncontributing lurker. With the level of stagnance so far it seems better to kill someone who wont help at all than those who will potentially slip up later if red, or attempt to help if town. I don't like the idea of shooting active voices with so much inactivity.

If the newer players are afraid of posting on chance of revealing their roles, ask the mods who are potential people that could coach them from outside the game or mason someone you feel could give you some help within it. Short of that inactivity will lose the town the game.


On June 14 2011 13:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

The advantage of it is if there are any reds in the list (i would assume there is at least one if not more) that shooting into the list this early on potentially outs themselves. It potentially protects people without the use of a med and lets them instead prot more likely blue snipes.

On June 16 2011 13:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Depends on the vet to be honest. So far only node and RoL need to be accounted for as of right now. If both appear with decent posts I would say leave the list as it is and throw either dt checks into it, or give 1 more day to let everyone analyze the group. If they both stay horribly inactive lynching one of them is potentially more useful.

If they are however active I would say we get a list of inactives and just lynch one.


On June 17 2011 03:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK as of right now we have a bunch of people who are hella lurking

Key two of these are RebirthofLegend and node. Seriously you two, shape the fuck up.

Level of activity of
node
Jacinto
Landec

suggests we have potential modkills incoming, however if they appear to vote later I would say keep a close on eye them and if they jump on the easy bandwagon or not.

That all being said, of sinani/aidnai/ilj (not sure why these 3 are still on the docket but whatever) ILJ has stated he will be inactive which doesn't help anyone but scum. Of the 3 he is the only one who would sit well in the case he is not mafia. My vote for now will still stay on node until node posts and or votes and I will then shift it over to ILJ unless a more compelling case for someone else has appeared.


I agree with Kenpachi, BC looks suspicious and gets my vote for now.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 16 2011 20:34 GMT
#415
BC your right I am new. So I did wait until I could see where the day was going before jumping in and probably making a terrible post. Read your post over a couple times and I see your point. Still time for me to change my vote to someone else.

Discussion seems to have picked up recently so thats good.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 16 2011 21:20 GMT
#426
Was about to post and then saw that Jacinto posted exactly was I was going to say. Reading through the thread looking at anything mentioning grassgiraffe, he seems to be the best choice for Day 1 so far. Voted for giraffe.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 16 2011 21:47 GMT
#439
@sandroba He made a one line post and voted to not get mod killed and has been MIA since. I made a post on page 20 that was more then one line showing my suspicion of BC but were past that now. And I'm still here.

Now the discussion has moved towards either giraffe or ILJ it seems. Like hiro said, ILJ is still on the radar and if he is not lynched today we have posts from him to go over come day 2.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 17 2011 23:48 GMT
#622
About the sandroba list:

Not to sure why you compare me to giraffe when this is still his only post and put in a useless vote to not get modkilled:
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On June 16 2011 19:44 grassgiraffe wrote:
Hey i'm no Modkill but after reading this whole thread i'm going to take the plunge and vote for sinani206.


Not sure if you missed my last few posts but we do not share the same behavior so thats why I voted for him. If he is mafia he has so far been able to just skirt on by. He was not lynched so following Ace's post in the thread linked above he should be hit by a vig.

Everything else I pretty much agree with although I'm not quite sure why RoL needs to be protected tonight. After another round of DT checks tonight we should have a couple good town mason groups setup and helping hunt.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 18 2011 00:14 GMT
#627
[QUOTE]On June 18 2011 08:52 Mig wrote:
vigs
landen/giraffe are fine.QUOTE]
Again, why am I here? Me and you Mig have the same amount of posts. So this from sandroba's list:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2011 05:21 sandroba wrote:
Both extremelly inactive and based on voting thread alone Giraffe has a high chance of being mafia.
[/QUOTE]
Is just not true. Also curious about what you meant sandroba about giraffe being a high chance of being mafia because of the voting thread. Is that because of the vote on sinani206?
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 18 2011 00:15 GMT
#628
EBWOP. The one time i forgot to preview i mess it up haha.

On June 18 2011 08:52 Mig wrote:
vigs
landen/giraffe are fine.

Again, why am I here? Me and you Mig have the same amount of posts. So this from sandroba's list:
On June 18 2011 05:21 sandroba wrote:
Both extremelly inactive and based on voting thread alone Giraffe has a high chance of being mafia.

Is just not true. Also curious about what you meant sandroba about giraffe being a high chance of being mafia because of the voting thread. Is that because of the vote on sinani206?
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#764
Catching up on the thread and working on a post. Might have to head out for an hour or two so wanted to get my vote in incase i get tied up.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 19 2011 22:16 GMT
#775
I read every post in this thread before voting so I meant catching up as in going over post history of syllogism and hiro again, re reading the important posts and preparing a post. The same way RoL said catching up here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230789&currentpage=35#687

Didn't see anyone jump on him for using that word. Ok now onto Syllogism:
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Similar read as RoL maybe. We see that so far he has not listened to his own advice.
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On June 15 2011 03:17 syllogism wrote:
The only plan the town needs is everyone contributing, relentless analysis and focus on the most suspicious players. As noted, this is a standard game, the mason mechanic aside, so there's no way to break the game.



His vote on a town player that he made pretty easily and didn't want to move off it for a lurker.
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On June 15 2011 21:26 syllogism wrote:
My vote will be on ilovejonn and will remain there unless a better suspect arises. It's a typical early day 1 case, but youngminii did outline valid points and his defence has so far been questionable.

On June 17 2011 07:08 syllogism wrote:
I won't be around for the deadline, so I'll rather leave my vote on ILJ than the random lurker.


Then this:
On June 19 2011 05:50 syllogism wrote:
It's just frustrating to even to even attempt scum hunting when play like that is tolerated from veterans.

Frustrating to scum hunt? He has yet to even make a strong accusation at this point.
He tells others to scum hunt but has done none of his own. He is well aware of that though.
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On June 18 2011 18:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On June 18 2011 16:48 syllogism wrote:

It's 5:30 in the morning and your bitching I haven't made analysis? I have been more active than you this entire game so don't go there. As for analysis I shall do it when I get home from work if I have the time. Analysis on people takes a huge amount of time which I may not have until tommorrow.

Oh I'm perfectly conscious of my hypocrisy, and I didn't mean today, but overall you haven't done any analysis of your own either and just wanted to lurker lynch instead. At least I've an excuse since this is my first game, but you specifically made a list of players, including you, who should step up and bizarrely recommended that those players shouldn't be DT checked or medi protected. I suppose the natural explanation is that you aren't playing for town victory.


He finally does scum hunt a little bit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230789&currentpage=37#725
This is his second time he has pointed his finger at Sinani but then changing it quickly. First time he goes to ILJ and then changes his vote again here:
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On June 20 2011 01:50 syllogism wrote:
Unvoting, I'll vote for hiro, sinani or a lurker (which is pretty much everyone) later. Not GG though as he is completely AWOL and should be vigied no matter what at this point.


If he is mafia, he has been able to appear to be pro-town by encouraging to scum hunt but not doing it himself. He has made some initial votes that do not draw attention, and then move them to someone else without much reason. First time to a player who flipped town. Thats why my vote is on him. Also will be bit suspicious of sinani if syllo flips red.



Now I don't know if all that was WIFOM or just terrible analysis, but its my first game, so I'm at least trying.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#1067
Read the last 10 pages over a couple times now. I share the same thoughts that Shraft has. Mataza's plan and FoS looked to be good initially but after reading through everything ,it does not seem to be as solid anymore. Have had my suspicions about YM since the begining because of his tunneling ILJ and his votes thus far. I've read over RoL's case against him 3 times and I think it is very strong. So I'm going with my gut feeling as well. I think RoL is town and YM is scum.




LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#1068
And if I counted right its 8-8 now with only Demorcerf left to vote.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 26 2011 00:36 GMT
#1322
Been looking back at the whole thread and voting pasterns and the main people I think are scum are wiggles and Fudgemonkey now. Then one of either siniani or Demorcerf. Looks like we will get to see RoL flip tonight and see red.

About my posts that Mataza was questioning. Been trying to make my opinion pretty clear in all of my earlier posts about lynch targets. Turns out I was right about BC(was just a hunch though) and sadly wrong on the next ones. But looking at the others that have low posts in this thread, I have tried to show my opinion more than some of the others.
LandenC
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada55 Posts
June 26 2011 02:14 GMT
#1327
The Demorcerf modkill didn't help us at all. Gonna need some good blue actions to win this now.
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