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-freeloader625 I think we're being a bit too hasty having him have with most votes. Sure his defenses were flimsy and irrelevant, but the reason we voted him in the first place was because he wasn't sure of the rules. This is a beginner's game, so I don't think this alone should be enough for a lynch. The fact that he has, however, been flimsy with his defense leads me to believe that we may have gotten lucky accusing him. Another thing is that he continually cites his experience with SC2 mafia. I don't know if any of you played this, but it's not very difficult. You have 1 minute days and it is random lynching most of the time. Now it is possible to pin his poor defense on the easier mafia game, but I don't think that's really relevant at all. The poor defense is either caused by he is mafia, and a bad liar, or he's town, and a bad player. I don't think however, that asking about the rules makes him mafia, and besides, if he was mafia, he would know the answer to the question. If we pretend he's really good at this game though, he might ask the question just to attempt to show inexperience and therefore be less likely to be lynched. I do think though, that if he were experienced, he would be able to foresee the fallout of his question. Therefore I think that he is just an inexperienced player looking for answers of how the game is played. That also is probably the reason his defense was so bad. -lafali This one is interesting because he only has 2 posts. Both not very informative. One of them patting aprudds on the back, the latter accusing him because of something that happened far before the first earlier post. he voted freeloader at first, RIGHT before his second post. But an hour after he accused aprudds, he unvoted for seemingly no reason, and has yet to vote. lafali is acting awfully suspicious, but I don't think that 2 short posts is quite enough information to judge him on. However, keep an eye out on him, he does seem rather suscpicious. -aprudds He seems like an honest scum-hunting citizen, and his only vote so far is by pyo for the reason "aprudds - for a really arbitrary out of nowhere accusation". His accusation was reasoned by him, and he even stated it was partially just to get the discussion started. Honestly, he has been the most scum-hunting of us, so I think he's very town. -TheAwesomeAll Considering this vote seems like a joke, I don't have much to say. First of all, it wasn't nearly his first post, as monsterDraker said, and furthermore, it wasn't even anything that bad, it was just facts. It does lead me to be suspicious of monster though. He voted because the post "annoyed" him. He seems WAY to hasty to vote. | ||
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He has 3 real posts. the first one is this. Good catch by aprudds. A townie wouldn't need to know that information. However, he could be new. There are 40 people in this game though, so its not like its mylo. This was about the whole freeloader incident at the beginning. This post is no help at all. He starts by complementing aprudds for his "good catch", and then immediately says why it may not matter. This post did nothing to help at all. His next post is On June 05 2011 15:16 Lafali wrote: His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours. He says "It's a 40 player game" again. and then clarifys what he means by saying "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches." Now this is obviously scummy behavior. Saying this could only imply that mislynches aren't so bad. What's worse is even after he gave his incredibly scummy opinion, he said "Regardless, we should continue scumhunting" this is the complete opposite of what he was implying and feels like he kind of just tacked it on there to not seem as scummy. even after that, he says "We do have 48 hours" this again somewhat reinforces my analysis about his quote earlier about mislynches not being so bad. It's saying that we shouldn't worry now. Also in this post, he mentions just hopping on the bandwagon. At the time of this post, he DID just hop on the bandwagon. 10 minuites earlier, he was the 3rd person to vote. an hour after he voted, he unvoted seemingly unprompted with no explanation. He has yet to re-vote. This behavior seems pretty scummy. I'm guessing that the mafia PMed him and told him not to unvote freeloader, as he was drawing suspicion to himself. This post is filled with contradictions and scummy behavior. His 3rd and final post is this: On June 06 2011 04:02 Lafali wrote: I'm new to mafia forum games like this and mostly used to smaller and faster-paced ones where taking a risk on a mislynch is pretty common as long as the game is not mislynch-lose. The subsequent posts from treadmill seemed fishy and people started to vote for him and at that point he was the only one looking suspicious to me. However, after reading more into the thread it seemed like a bad idea to vote so early, and it would be better to wait for any tells, and then on day two, cop reports. Here, he is being ULTRA defensive. along with being, again, completely useless. He first states that his previous experience with a different form of the game leads him to believe that mislynches are okay. He is saying "mislynches are okay, and here's why I think so" again. Next he mentions that he finds treadmill fishy. He gives no evidence for this at all, and the only reason he even mentioned him is because kurumi said he was more scummy than treadmill. his purpose in mentioning treadmill was to get kurumi to not vote him. He next says that voting early seems like a bad idea, despite the fact he was the 3rd to vote. And finally, he seems to be expecting DT to reveal himself tomorrow. Note that he hasn't posted since this when people, including myself, started attacking him. I guess they forgot about him, but he definitely seems the most scummy to me. ##VOTE lafali | ||
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On June 07 2011 06:34 amazingxkcd wrote: You seem to be in a position to defend rookie44 when he has made quite a lot of scummy posts, particularly trying to take advantage of noobs to slip up their roles with Also, notices how already from the start of the game, he is asking for roles and wanted to lynch Treadmill without any sound proof besides making a suggestion about the freeloader wagon being loaded with mafias Here, he is making assumptions about what the mafia should do, which is trying to divert attention away from him. for these reasons and the ones given by jackal58 as well as kurumi, i am voting for Rookie44 on the basis of clear scummy post and trying to divert attention away from himself with circular logic ##Vote: Rookie44 also alderan, I am very suspicious of you for trying to defend this guy. Elaborate as to why you think he is not a scum. This is xkcd's post about his vote for rookie. Note that he did vote for him within 2 minuites of senj and 5 minuites of kurumi. This is obviously not coincedence as the last accusation of him was a half hour earlier by jackal. Also very importantly note that This was posted after all 3 of them voted! Now this has to require some communication. I'm not actually sure about kurumi, because he voted first quoting jackal's argument. But the other 2 hopping on almost immediately shows that they were trying to start a bandwagon. My speculation is that jackal may be mafia, and was waiting until someone (kurumi) voted for rookie at which point his mafia buddies would strike. Both are VERY likely mafia, but I think xkcd is much more likely as he voted last. Also, this style is very different from all previous posting of his. This is his first attempt at analysis, which makes me wonder if someone else wrote it for him. This is xkcd's 1st real post 1. It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it Note that he NEVER told us who he was talking about, and the fact that he mentioned people from “both sides” makes me think he KNOWS both sides. Whoever the “main talkers” are for all we know, they could all be mafia or all be town! Now look at the rest of his post “ The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it”. This is obviously just some generic “i'm not mafia” phrase tacked on to the end. He's mafia, and he's not good at it. Another interesting one On June 07 2011 10:30 amazingxkcd wrote: Ebwop; this is directed at impervious Also, drazerk is looking like a scum now that i start to evaluate him more in depth. I will do more work to see if i should switch my vote to him if impervious gives a proper response. He never did analysis of drazerk. His only real anylsis is again of rookie which furthers my suspicion that someone may have wrote it for him. On June 09 2011 02:01 amazingxkcd wrote: This is for you, aprudds, you only referenced treadmill's posts but what is your thoughts? You want me to defend myself against you when you got nothing to say about me. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tymQB.png) replying with an xkcd comic... cute, however this just shows that he is only trying to avoid having to defend himself. On June 09 2011 02:08 amazingxkcd wrote: If Jackal's reasoning wasn't strong enough and if he just wanted information, then why did he vote for rookie right away after his analysis of rookie as detailed below? A lot of other posts suggest that rookie and jackal may be in cahoots. This one suggests that jackal may be town and they took the opportunity to vote for rookie. The reason I bring this up is that this means that they wanted him to die, which they had no reason for. I am just bringing this up because the only possible reason to start a bandwagon at that point was to save freeloader. This makes me suspicious of freeloader. On June 09 2011 02:11 amazingxkcd wrote: I agree with this, and started to discuss this, but the main townies besides you aren't helping me with this. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lVa9l.png) another xkcd comic in place of content... I would say this is annoying, but it serves the purpose of showing what hes doing. He claimed to try to start a discussion, but now that he's given a chance to start it, he instead says “UGH I tried to tell you about this, but not now, you're too late!” The only reason that he would decide not to is that he changed his mind, or someone told him not to. This is another connection between him and jackal, and I think that this means that they are both mafia, or trying to use jackal as a scapegoat. His next big post is his analysis of everyone. I'll ignore most of it, but I think the most interesting part is his accusation of jackal. First thing to note is that his is the only one not spoilered. This is obviously to get attention on his accusation of him. Next he says jackal is GF, this would make us want to lynch him more! 3rd is, when he wrote this, he was getting a LOT of votes. All of these lead to either jackal being mafia, and he voted him because if he does get lynched, people would leave jackal alone. Or 2 Jackal is his scapegoat, and he's trying to get jackal lynched instead of him. On June 09 2011 13:45 amazingxkcd wrote: 1 last thing before i treuly go to sleep. This will create a shitstorm. I want all of you to watch people's reaction to my accusations to jackal. If they try to defend him without a doubt, they are trying to protect him. They are mafia scum. Do not forget. This one is just dumb of him. He is claiming all people that don't agree with him are mafia. He is only mentioning jackal again. There is definitely something between him and jackal at this point, but this post is entirely him trying to turn town against each other. On June 10 2011 02:57 amazingxkcd wrote: I am still in school, waiting for the finals to finish in 20 mins. A lot of people have been advocating for iGrok's lynch so i will take that into account. Looking at his current status, he's making memes for map threads and trying to avoid the issues against him. I will further into that when i get home from school. this one is just him trying to divert attention. He sees he has a shot at surviving today, so he jumps all over that. Every single post from that point is him attacking Grok to survive. I think it's obvious that amazingxkcd is scum. | ||
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In fact, i'm guessing that that is all the blues right there. Since we shot kurumi night 2, and other vigi already shot jackal, all of you are essentially normal townies. correct? | ||
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On June 16 2011 07:49 Vain wrote: Why the fuck should i shoot jackal if i was vigi . he wasn't THAT suspicious. Shots are best saved for a good target later on and i wasn't planning on dying anytime soon  lol, well someone did, and you seemed to be after him a lot. | ||
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