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Alderan
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Going to be my first one. Really excited! | ||
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Alderan
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Now he is stating that a townie does have reasons to ask such a question what is indeed true. The interesting part of this post is at the second line. He is now telling us "dont mind me, i'm new to the game" and diverting attention off him. Telling you are new and therefore if are doing things out of the ordinary its just your inexperience is at the best not very good town play. If he is indeed as inexperienced as he would have us believe it is safe to assume that he is not familiar with good town play to begin with. Combine that with your assessment that The question itself was not very scummy indeed. If i were a scum i would pm it to the host instead of posting it in the thread. and he looks a lot like a misguided town. | ||
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Alderan
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On June 06 2011 01:08 Jimbooo wrote: I accidentally posted my last post without finishing , sorry. Im not sure if freeloader was TRYING to be suspicious with his last post , but after thinking it through I think he is probably just new. That small amount of evidence got a discussion started , but I think people also voted slightly hastily. It looks very suspicious that so many people voted for freeloader right after he was accused. I agree. Granted any veteran scum would never post a vote that quickly in my opinion but if we're going to start anywhere that seems a good place as any, especially considering there are a lot of first timers in this game. | ||
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Alderan
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I do not understand what you mean by this, sorry. Can you clarify whether "insane" is a good thing or a bad thing in this context; and what does "tunnel the roster" mean? Accusing everyone in the game of being scum is generally not a good thing. | ||
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Alderan
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On June 06 2011 02:56 amazingxkcd wrote: It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it It is posts like this (especially for your first post) that we are trying to avoid. All you did in this post was state the premise of the game, and make a likely incorrect assumption that there are mafia among the "main talkers" this early in the game. Very very scummy post. | ||
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Alderan
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On June 06 2011 03:38 amazingxkcd wrote: interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other. Pretty defensive considering all I said was that those are posts we are trying to avoid in exchange for more constructive ones. The post was scummy, but that doesn't mean you are scum. | ||
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Alderan
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Amazingxkcd I've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts. It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this: interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other. Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post: Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia. For town: aidnai, GMarshal For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13 LSB's Newbie Guide Mafiascum Newbie Guide Introduction to Mafia (Flash) Ver's town guide Ace's Mafia Manifesto Qatol's Town Guide So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. Grush57 This is an example of someone who is acting scummy, but who could be just a really bad townie. Not advising we use our first lynch on him but its someone to look out for (maybe DT check?). Here's why: First, without posting anything in the thread he immediately voted for Freeloader. Could definitely be viewed as a rookie maf move. When called out about it he failed to respond. In fact he did not contribute anything to the thread until the inactive list to which he responded: Im not inactive, I just dont feel like anybody can accuse this early. Wait? What? After blindly bandwagon voting not even 4 hours into the game? Inconsistency tends to be a maf trait. When called out he responded: Yea true, I stupidly joined the bandwagon to lynch freeloader from his posts. Again, Wait? What?! A little later when calling out omgCRAZY he posts this gem, his third post. Says the person with only 1 post so far? OmgCRAZY had posted several times..... More to come tomorrow. Would love to hear what everyone thinks. | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:53 iGrok wrote: When quoting, make sure you leave the name/time part of the quote in ^^. Its too easy to write a fake quote otherwise. Just a little tip ^^ Good call. Thanks  | ||
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Alderan
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On June 06 2011 15:18 iGrok wrote: Jackal58 is good. GGQ is good, borderline very good (no offense Jackal ♥). Vain is good. I'd like to think I'm decent. Impervious is... interesting haha. Kurumi has played 3 games, and Jackal called him out later on. Whats important here is that Kurumi lumps himself in with very good players that town should listen to. He's attempting to establish a position of power for himself. On June 06 2011 16:55 iGrok wrote: Personally, I think Jackal58, GGQ, or Vain would be great people to look up to and have confidence in - they're all pretty experienced and -good- players. Whomever among them we can confirm/be reasonably certain is town should be looked up to. Is this a mistype or are you getting legitimate town reads from all 3 of those players? If, as you said in your first post, yourself, Jackal, GGQ, and Vain are the experienced players, so it is safe to assume that at least one would have been placed with the mafia, particularly in a noobie game. I think a couple seem to be acting suspicious, but it's day 1 and that could be for multiple reasons. Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in. @ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier. | ||
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Alderan
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Didn't see the second sentence of what I quoted.... fail. That being said I think the point remains that iGrok, Jackal58, GGQ, and Vain should be handled with a certain level of caution. One or two will likely be maf, and be more experienced at hiding it. | ||
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On June 06 2011 23:54 Kurumi wrote: Are You smurfing? @_@ I responded to Benjef and got Jackal's response? Nope, I'm not smurfing at all. (See what I did there?) | ||
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Alderan
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On June 07 2011 02:53 iGrok wrote: Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/ But you agree that it shouldn't be freeloader? | ||
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On June 07 2011 05:47 TranceStorm wrote: Would you mind doing a post-by-post analysis of rookie44's posts? (There are only 3) Right now I can't really see how subtly he is fishing for blues. After all, we don't know how experienced he really is, so I would like a little more clarification as to your accusation. Wait so you're saying instead of voting for new players being dumb you suggest us to vote for a player who has never played before on the forums (admittedly so) for suggesting that veteran players toss out potential strategies? Sure it's a LITTLE scummy, but until I see some elaboration on your "very subtle in fishing for blues" I'm going to have to disagree with you. | ||
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Alderan
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Obviously in response to Jackal. | ||
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Just pointing out that I think your analysis is just as weak or weaker than all the others. Let's see how he responds. | ||
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On June 07 2011 06:34 amazingxkcd wrote: You seem to be in a position to defend rookie44 when he has made quite a lot of scummy posts, particularly trying to take advantage of noobs to slip up their roles with Also, notices how already from the start of the game, he is asking for roles and wanted to lynch Treadmill without any sound proof besides making a suggestion about the freeloader wagon being loaded with mafias Here, he is making assumptions about what the mafia should do, which is trying to divert attention away from him. for these reasons and the ones given by jackal58 as well as kurumi, i am voting for Rookie44 on the basis of clear scummy post and trying to divert attention away from himself with circular logic ##Vote: Rookie44 also alderan, I am very suspicious of you for trying to defend this guy. Elaborate as to why you think he is not a scum. By no means am I saying he's not scum, he could very well be scum. I just missed the "blue fishing" read that Jackal seemed to get and needed clarification. It seems to be weak (your analysis built a better case though), but then again it's day 1 everything is weak. I still plan on waiting for a response from Rookie before I change my vote to anyone. | ||
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Alderan
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On June 07 2011 07:10 rookie44 wrote: Sorry for the delayed response, i have been checking the thread regularly but not regularly enough i guess. I was not trying to hunt for blue roles, as i said in the post i was looking for a general stratagy we could use, some sort of system. I felt and feel that the current discussion was based entirely on who we are going to vote on tonight, and i thought it would be best to have some idea of what we can do in the mid and long term aswell. I have read the readings that were suggested at the start of the thread, and i again looked through them when they were suggested by xkcd, and they seemed to be just tips and tells (although to be fair i didnt get to explore the wiki on it that much). Seems kinda funny that this is all happening just hours away the lynching when i made that post almost a day ago. I stand by what i said and still support having some kind of stratagy going into the latter stages. Rookie who do you suggest we vote for then and why? You have contributed nothing to the town up to this point and you are going to get lynched unless you do. | ||
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Alderan
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Honestly there are a couple people I'd like to vote for, but the decision is made infinitely more difficult based on the fact that all the ones in question are likely only in question for being new to the game and very lazy. If we have to hit a town let's make it a lazy scummy looking one. ##Vote Rookie44 | ||
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