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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 28 2011 04:46 GMT
#38
/in

yay guitar is here! (not sure about hte temp ban icon though...)
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 02:09 GMT
#157
inb4batman

I think I sent a nice role, not too strong but should prove fun and useful for either alignment.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 12:21 GMT
#171
I like where this game is going.

Also, gtrsrs got permabanned, and there is nothing I can do about it when he quotes the very thing that got him tempbanned and says "real"

le sigh.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 19:48 GMT
#202
Nice role, good luck managing the game deconduo, everyone gets an improv power, and its up to you to figure how it all works out haha, I dont envy you.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:13 GMT
#215
On May 31 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:
All roles are sent out. If you haven't gotten one, LET ME KNOW NOW!

Also the BBCode was messed up in a few, don't worry about that.

Day 1 Post in 1 hour 30min


And I dont think Mr. M got a straight up traitor or VI, but maybe something with an alternate win condition? Otherwise it would kinda defeat the purpose to give someone a role like that and know exactly what they have.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#225
I think I will enjoy this game. I think I will enjoy it very very much.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:27 GMT
#234
On May 31 2011 05:25 GMarshal wrote:
Mataza has the ability to stick his foot in his mouth with ease, as he proved in SNMMIII, he also has a penchant for fake claiming roles, e.g. he considered claiming cop day 1 in SNMMIII, I'm just ignoring his statements about his role for now.

Also lets try to avoid a claim this early in the game, yes?


But what if gotham needs me!?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#242
On May 31 2011 05:25 Kurumi wrote:
Cmon,the Joker was never on the "bad guys side" he did what he pleased to. 3rd Party Role imo.


You may be right robin, but to understand the Joker we must first understand his past deeds. We can make a educated guess from there exactly what his goal will be.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:44 GMT
#274
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.


I have forseen this, so I have assigned boy wonder to deal with this problem. I will give him the cue so we can sort things out. Your identity is precious, and your most important tool.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:48 GMT
#284
On May 31 2011 05:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 05:36 sandroba wrote:
Can you guys read??????? I'm not saying to claim the fucking role, just let us know what player you designed the role for, not the actual role!!!!

How does this help mafia?


Let's say, player A designed a role for player B. There's also player C.

Player A is town, Player B is mafia.
Mafia shoots Player A, Player B may now claim whatever he wants (Literally, in this set-up).

Player A is town, Player B is town, Player C is mafia.
Mafia shoots Player A, Player B can claim, but it is not verifiable. Also, WIFOM for being the first situation, as in, more confusion for town.

Or is this wrong?


Ah this does look like the work of the wiggler for sure...

I'll have katiwoman analyze this piece immediately.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:57 GMT
#299
On May 31 2011 05:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Now that I see some horrible jokes being played I feel I should step up with something useful. Rather than go on and on about who picked who lists or the like can help why dont we do this, drop them.

Instead we move onto something useful. As the day progresses we determine who are people we deem high priority red targets. They get protection from whoever got a protection role. We set up a list on who we think may or may not be red and have our investigative roles check them.

This forces discussion on topics that are very very hard to hide your alignment in. Mafia and town alike have to voice in and information is given. The Zodiac list is tried and true.


Are we picking people based on past history or are we going to base it on the current game? IIRC, this inevitably leads us to making "townie-lists". After PYPI, I don't really feel like thats a great idea. But for the sake of discussion I'm all for it, since I think you are focusing more on what people are saying rather then the lists themselves. I'll nominate you and myself.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 21:02 GMT
#308
On May 31 2011 05:58 Varpulis wrote:
LAL is in effect. If lie, we kill you. Period.


I think LAL is bad and you should feel bad, especially with no scope on the variables present in the game. I think it's better to say don't lie without an evident purpose that benefits town.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 21:07 GMT
#316
On May 31 2011 06:03 Varpulis wrote:
BloodyC0bbler's plan is good for the first day, but we shouldn't play this game based off of who's on the "town list" and who's not. Protect the valuable, active players day 1, investigate the dudes with ulterior motives. I'd like to keep the kills to a minimum for the first few days. Save your bullets, guys.


I'm not loving your posting so far bro. General sweeping obvious statements. I think you'll be joining my scum list very soon, and in case I need to remind you in (order for me to beef up this post with content-less blabber) I play this game based off my scum list
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 21:41 GMT
#390
On May 31 2011 06:24 deskscaress wrote:
first of all i want to say that the dog-isms are cracking me up ITT
if that's a legit role with a post-restriction, that's absolutely brilliant and is gonna make this game a blast
cheers to that

second, i know i'm about 5 pages late on this but holy shit this thread is moving fast. i wanted to chime in that i'm also against a LAL policy. there are tons of cases where lying can help the town. especially in a game where no one knows any of the roles except for the one they created, you have NO IDEA if someone else could be lying to set up a master plan to help the town win or something.

of course this works both ways and i'm sure i'm preaching to the choir here because you're mostly experienced players. what i'm saying is that we should focus more on scumhunting than policy lynches

also forgive me for being naive, but someone mentioned using night-powers to off liars instead of lynches. isn't that a poor choice? i'm assuming there are at least a couple interceptor-type roles. in the last game that i played, i was a vigilante and i was terrified to shoot anyone who i had drawn suspicion to during the day because i always thought the interceptor would kill me if i tried. i always tried to get my FoS's lynched during the day, even with a fool active.

lastly, without wanting to give anything away, i feel like redFF, in that i don't think my role is going to play a huge role in the game. so i hope i can contribute via scumhunting and quality posts instead


As I said before, I think the chances of a village idiot/fool or traitor being present are slim. I wouldn't take that into consideration, otherwise I look forward to playing with you And I'm still trying to grasp at what is possible in this game, so I wouldn't worry over direct counters like that. No roles are going to be heavily specific when regarding other roles, since as both players and role creators, we all made them for the recipient's benefit. They will have straight forward mechanics with perhaps a twist or two to make it fun for the person IMO.

So I think we should hold off on figuring out what we can do with other people roles, and focus on what you can do individually, and what we do normally. I think the zodiac list should be prioritized, but I can't say I'm not intrigued by amber. WHATS THAT LASSIE? JOHNNY FELL DOWN A WELL?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 21:58 GMT
#399
On May 31 2011 06:48 Eternalmisfit wrote:
I am assuming that the zodiac list is something akin to this idea (since I can't find anything else that is close to the zodiac list).

Zodiac list

A confirmation on this would be good so that I can think about who all should be include in it or not.


That's it exactly. Ace made a list of all the strong presences in the town, and it put a lot of pressure on these few. Since they were all town, the pressure lead them to keep posting like townies and win versus a weak mafia team. I barely remember that game. So, the list will be strong presences in the thread, along with vets who we can't afford to keep quiet. Since everyone has a role, I don't think there is much of an excuse to keeping quiet as town. If you think you have a weaker role or are a veteran role of sorts, then you need to try to get yourself on the list, because that usually means you are being an obstacle for scum to deal with, and a backbone for the town.

I don't think I'd put amber on the list, because that handicap draws enough attention, and we can't exactly ask him to explain things without taking up 10 pages...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 22:55 GMT
#436
On May 31 2011 06:59 chaos13 wrote:
To be honest, I think Amber is lying about his post restriction. Anyone who makes a role that prevents a player from discussing and analyzing in a game based on discussion and analysis is an idiot, unless he has some sort of incredibly superpowered night ability.


I can see that, and the creator can't call bullshit until day 2. But I don't really think there is that much of purpose to amber doing this as scum. Perhaps instead of a restriction, it's more of an "option". If amber does that the whole day, he gets to protect someone. Then maybe later on in the game amber can opt to not do it, and give thoughts, or perhaps activating some other ability. That's how I would make the role. You'd have to be cruel to make amber post like that the entire game...

And we have a lynch to get to. I think varpulis is probably scum, but I think we should keep accusations tight, and not just fling FoS around. Plus I dont really use the finger, I prefer the noose of condemnation.

NoC @ varpulis for contentless posting. This is particular which I took notice of.

On May 31 2011 06:03 Varpulis wrote:
BloodyC0bbler's plan is good for the first day, but we shouldn't play this game based off of who's on the "town list" and who's not. Protect the valuable, active players day 1, investigate the dudes with ulterior motives. I'd like to keep the kills to a minimum for the first few days. Save your bullets, guys.


Serious inflation right there. If anyone knows varpulis well, please tell me if he usually has a higher quality of posting. And most notably BC does not ring any scum bells, but he is a master of deceit!
I shall call him BC because his name already sounds like a DC villain.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 23:04 GMT
#441
On May 31 2011 07:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 06:57 Rean wrote:
Sigh. This is silly. The dog appears to be some kind of guard dog, so i'm guessing he acts like a watcher/tracker or something like that. Useful later on, a waste of time for now.

As for the LAL plan: no. You lynch people when there is a good reason to do so, not simply because you lied. There could be many reasons that town would be lying, and blindly lynching them for it is not a good idea.

The list is unneccesary. People should be capable of deciding for themself who is worth protecting or inspecting, you don't need someone holding your hand telling you what to do.

Oh, and props for whoever thought up the dog role, that's just hilarious.


Actually, reading through what Ace said, he actually said the list should be avoided by DTs. The entire point of it, is that it creates pressure on the people on the list to act pro-town, and also, as people on the list die, the pressure is increased, letting glaring scum slips show.


But he said that in a framer set-up. I think a framer/GF role would be rare in this set-up since you give the role before you know alignment. But there could be role disguising roles. Generally it's better to rolecheck quieter players as a rule of thumb, since you can't analyze them as hard beyond calling them lurkers. And as a matter of course, vets become objects of scrutiny.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#445
noose of condemnation
nail of caught-scum
nugget of castration
needle of carcinogenicness
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 23:12 GMT
#447
On May 31 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote:
I'm always a bit lost day 1, bum.

About the Zodiac lists: At this point they just seem to be lists of strong vets, and I don't know you guys well enough to make an informed list. BC has looked pro-town, as have you. Not really sure who else. Sandroba, maybe. he's proven to be a good player, and his posts have been mostly good, barring the claiming plan.

I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do.

what does NoC stand for?


You're getting accused of fluffy posting. Defend your ideas mostly or accept your fate! I'm not saying you are making bad posts, I'm seeing them as intentionally inflated to make it look like your saying something. Kita didn't explain his vote which he should. If someone votes for you without putting reasons, ignore them.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 23:56 GMT
#475
On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote:
This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward.


Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check!
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