• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:15
CEST 14:15
KST 21:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon63Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?168Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Broodwar Prediction Market Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7643 users

[M] (2) Cliffs of Tartarus

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 14:24:50
May 06 2011 23:21 GMT
#1
Map: Cliffs of Tartarus 1.3
[image loading]

  • Players: 2 - 1v1 design, 8/2 starting
  • Size: 140x116
  • Expansions: 12. Expansions north of natural have golds.
  • Rush Distance: 160.6
  • XWTs: None.
  • Destructible Rocks: Protect a second entrance to the natural. Going for the closer, more defend-able expansions requires these to be broken.
  • LoSBs: Around the hazard area, the close third, the holes in the ground.
  • No Fly Zone: The centre. Marked by the force fields. Frustratingly, air pathing is really terrible. It's about as smooth as I can get it, but I might have to scrap it entirely.
  • Servers: EU


Concept: Moderate sized multiple route map. Tight paths but many avenues for attack. More options appear the more you and your opponent expand.

People have referred to it as "Lava Oasis". Should not be too similar, however, as bases are tighter and the map is smaller.

Aesthetically, it's a volatile, molten drilling region.

+ Show Spoiler [Angled Views] +

[image loading][image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Detail - Note in-game pictures are of…] +

[image loading]
[image loading]
Hazard region in the centre. Second image is slightly out of date but the decals still exist.
[image loading]
Natural expansion.


+ Show Spoiler [Map Analyser] +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
**Note the air distance is not accurate.**


Changelog:

  • 07/05/2011 - v1.0 - Initial map frame published!
  • 07/05/2011 - v1.1 - Shifted mineral lines in main and natural towards edge, altered the region around the main and third. Map now has a second player (whoops!), No-fly-zone now has a ( - ) shape rather than a Solid circle.
  • 07/05/2011 - v1.2 - Gold moved to opposite side and closer to main attack route. Xel'Naga towers removed.
  • 07/05/2011 - v1.3 - Goofy skulls gaps removed, and replaced with smaller gaps. Map is overall wider, ramps positioning altered slightly in naturals and behind the gold.


Concerns:
  • Air pathing in the centre.


Request:
Basically, due to my lack of experience/skill with the game, and lack of contacts, I've not really been able to test this map. So as well as for general map design feedback, I'm looking for testers!

- Thanks to those who have already helped me test things out. You've let me see loads of things that needed change.

Download:
  • v1.0 [url blocked]
  • v1.1 [url blocked]
  • v1.2 [url blocked]
  • v1.3 [url blocked]


Other maps by me:
(2) Lunar Knot
(4) Into the Storm
adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 23:26:11
May 06 2011 23:24 GMT
#2
<3 the subtle contrasted layout
<3 the detail spoiler
<3 the no fly zone
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
May 07 2011 00:20 GMT
#3
Vikings can land and walk under the no-fly, and when they lift off they will spaz out if the area is blanketed by no-fly zones. You might need to make a line of them instead of a circle to prevent this, which isn't exactly what you intended but it will be "breakable" otherwise.

You could pull the mineral line in the main towards the NE / SW corners more to make them even farther by air. Or you could shave off some of the main to decrease its size if you like. This might be good because there are a lot of awkwardly cramped spots, like the labeled third. Small adjustments would make these places flow smoothly though.

This is a good take on the natural-behind-you setup, I especially like the clockwise bases.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 01:39:57
May 07 2011 00:44 GMT
#4
Ugh, can't believe I didn't think about how that mechanic will work. I guess I'll just prevent flight where you can't move by land in the first place, as this still performs the goal of preventing a straight line of air passage.
I'll also work on tidying up the main - pictures will be up tomorrow when I'm no longer on my laptop.

Edit - fixed.
Mammel
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland189 Posts
May 07 2011 02:09 GMT
#5
This looks to have pretty much the same problem Desert Oasis had, base trades will be very common if both attack the same time from different routes as they are so far from each other.

Also, I dislike the gold. It just feels way too safe with no fly zone protecting main from drops, watchtowers showing pretty much everything and very long attack distance to natural. Something like this meaby? Would also make mains ~1/3 smaller which is good, they are way too big.
http://i.imgur.com/4ga28.jpg

Actually, after thinking bit more,I would probably remake natural/3rd to something like this (Made in 5 min at paint, scale is obviously fucked up). http://i.imgur.com/KM3h3.png
U need to choose between very easy 3rd or much harder gold in main attack path, pretty much like in XNC, but with the exception that theres alternate route to other base so PF isn't so powerful there.
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
May 07 2011 09:47 GMT
#6
I'm not entirely convinced about the base trades, as the map is significantly smaller and has less spread out expansions than Desert Oasis.

As for the gold, I agree. Originally, the watchtower was necessary to defend the entire region, but that hasn't been a problem long before release. Those were removed.

I'll also work on ways to move the gold to make it a little more like XNC.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
Pre Blizzcon Cup
ByuN vs Percival
Cure vs Classic
IntoTheiNu 903
WardiTV873
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #146
CranKy Ducklings199
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 114
MindelVK 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40511
Calm 9960
PianO 4796
Jaedong 2461
Pusan 652
firebathero 475
Hyuk 373
Hyun 244
Mini 207
Last 185
[ Show more ]
ZerO 90
ggaemo 67
Mong 64
Sharp 48
Killer 43
Hm[arnc] 42
sSak 37
HiyA 36
Aegong 36
NaDa 32
Shinee 29
Trap 27
Shine 17
JulyZerg 16
SilentControl 16
Rock 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Dota 2
ODPixel444
Fuzer 169
Counter-Strike
edward604
zeus530
x6flipin364
Other Games
summit1g17227
Pyrionflax285
DeMusliM227
KnowMe57
ZerO(Twitch)5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV206
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 24
lovetv 9
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 101
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP20
• Adnapsc2 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV480
League of Legends
• Jankos2083
Upcoming Events
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2h 45m
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
3h 45m
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
6h 15m
IdrA vs MC
Afreeca Starleague
21h 45m
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
22h 45m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d 22h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.