• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:26
CEST 22:26
KST 05:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
Mihu vs Korea Players Statistics BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Path of Exile Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 21697 users

Pick Your Power Insane!

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#56
Gonna /in on this, pyp is so fun :D
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 11 2011 08:13 GMT
#155
On May 11 2011 15:10 KillerSOS wrote:
This is going to be insane, so to speak.

nah I feel like it'll be pretty tame don't worry about it
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 14 2011 21:47 GMT
#311
On May 15 2011 06:34 Ace wrote:
Good idea but trying to figure out what the mafia will pick is pretty much a crapshot at this point. There are just too many roles that are dangerous. Like Radfield iirc said - our best bet is to lynch anyone caught with clearly anti-town roles. This way no one can get away with " I was just picking this to deny Mafia from it" excuses.


This is the plan I like most. In the last PYP game, structuring the picks too much caused a good bit of confusion and in the end, didn't really help with anything. I'm going to be picking a pro-town role no matter where I fall, and I think it's smart to hold everyone else to the same expectation.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 15 2011 05:07 GMT
#364
I took [6][7]
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 16 2011 05:15 GMT
#449
The only situation in which someone would even maybe want to immediately claim that they didn't get the role they wanted would be if they were high on the list, tried to pick traitor, and didn't get it. Then again, if a higher-up red went for a strong role and missed it they could say the same sort of thing to confuse/fuck with town so even that has some conditions attached to it.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 16 2011 09:18 GMT
#481
On May 16 2011 17:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Therefore I'm going to scope out suspects based on small posting with a clear sign of having interests elsewhere during the drafting and role picking stages.


haha, I have no clue what this means. Anyway, since I get called out for lurking just about every game might as well reassure people right now: I get involved when shit starts actually happening, don't worry about it. Still don't really know how to read these early stages .-.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 16 2011 09:51 GMT
#483
Sorry! PYP3 was one of my earliest games, and I really didn't know how to approach the game. Between that and it being PYP I just kind of lurked out of sheer terror and confusion, and ended up getting modkilled for it which I'm still kicking myself for :/

I mean, all the who-picks-what planning talk was cool, but I pretty much stated how I was going to pick and that was that. I understand the appeal to having a structured list but last game it didn't go quite so well. So what's there to say when everyone's just kind of mulling over two or three reasonable plans that I won't strictly be participating in?

So yeah, I'm pretty quiet during this part of the game, and that's my bad. If you ever feel like I haven't taken a strong stance on an important issue or that I'm deliberately ignoring or omitting something important from any of my posts I'd love for you to call me out on it, but until the game gets moving or something really catches my eye I don't know how I'm going to get more than 2-3 posts out a day without outright spamming.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 16 2011 22:31 GMT
#562
On May 17 2011 07:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, a group of vote-checked townies won't be 100% green. There's still the possibility for framers and GFs to be in the group.


This is probably the best reason to not even try for the rigger/vote dt combo until later on-- we probably handed scum every GF role they could have wanted, so all the check will tell us is if there's a red voting for a player that didn't take GF which, while useful, is pretty far off from what the combo could do for us once we have a better handle on what's going on.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 17 2011 01:31 GMT
#596
Oh man, decon just made himself the perfect placeholder vote candidate. Or maybe even a good lynch candidate! :D
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 17 2011 06:07 GMT
#637
On May 17 2011 12:53 infinitestory wrote:
Oh, speaking of which, I'd actually like to apply some pressure myself.

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 10:31 Eiii wrote:
Oh man, decon just made himself the perfect placeholder vote candidate. Or maybe even a good lynch candidate! :D

You haven't been posting much, and you suddenly appear to simply bandwagon deconduo. Generally, placeholder votes are put on yourself, by the way; right now, it looks like you're just voting without caring who you're voting for.
The lynch is important. It's a reliable way to weed out mafia, given that people vote intelligently. What is your reason for voting deconduo? Do you believe he is mafia? (If not, who are you watching?)

Do I think decon is mafia? Probably not, after pulling a post like that. Do I think that there's a decent chance we're going to lynch mafia today if we ignore decon? Nope. Do I think that lynching someone who's either VI or a townie with apparently no role who's lost interest in the game and probably won't contribute much is better than tunneling in on one or two 'suspicious' posts from an active player or one who looks lurk-y now for whatever reason but could hold a helpful role or perk up and contribute more in the next few days? Definitely.

Look, I don't ever have much confidence in day 1 lynches. Like ace has said, it just seems like sifting through peoples' posts and emphasizing possible reasons that they *could* be scum. I don't see anything that makes me especially confident that we're on the right track today and I'm pretty clueless so far as well. At best decon is VI and we take him out of the game early and avoid lynching someone green tonight. At best-best mafia is retarded, and decon is a red zombie or something. At worst decon is for some crazy reason lying and actually holds the most useful role in the world but decided to tell us to kill him just for fun. Probably decon actually did have a specific set of roles he wanted to play and he wasn't able to pick any up, so he's not that interested in playing the game.

In terms of people I think are scummy, I think caller and chez have been posting pretty dumb things, but that's about all I've got
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 17 2011 09:43 GMT
#661
Based on his play in XXXVIII, I feel like kav's meta is 'try too hard day one and get lynched for it'. I don't think he's scum.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 17 2011 09:44 GMT
#662
On May 17 2011 18:33 Node wrote:
Is Chezinu always so crazy? I went through all of his posts and he has yet to contribute in the least to the game. If it was anybody else I have to think that they would be facing a lynch at this point. Flamewheel, you're welcome to say that the quality of my posts has dropped off, but you have to admit that for Chezinu "quality" is just a memory of a dream.

The only game I've played with him was Survivor Amazon, but quality posts and analysis wasn't exactly the name of the game there. I clicked through his history from TL Mafia XXX and earlier and while I didn't see anything stellar, he at least seemed to be, you know, playing.

I have to think that he's smarter than he's letting on.


He's pretty obviously VI, or trying to look like it. Lynching him would be fine.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 17 2011 17:41 GMT
#685
On May 17 2011 21:00 GMarshal wrote:
Eiii-
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 10:31 Eiii wrote:
Oh man, decon just made himself the perfect placeholder vote candidate. Or maybe even a good lynch candidate! :D

This post is so scummy its not even funny, it shows a complete disregard for the power of his vote and a "yay easy bandwagon" attitude that is at the very least anti-town, if not outright scummy


hey remember that time I posted about this

yeah me neither I hate reading
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 18 2011 03:56 GMT
#799
I'm absolutely not comfortable lynching kav today. I'm having a hard time convincing myself to even switch my vote to one of the two lynchees at the moment.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 18 2011 06:03 GMT
#850
honestly kav getting lynched would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly dumb for any of you to vote for him. I mean come on, nearly exactly this happened last game.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 19 2011 04:43 GMT
#952
I think it's pretty likely the second KP came from mafia as well. The hits went to the #1 and #2 drafted players and I don't think flamewheel was a huge vig target or anything.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 19 2011 05:29 GMT
#976
On May 19 2011 13:46 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 13:43 Eiii wrote:
I think it's pretty likely the second KP came from mafia as well. The hits went to the #1 and #2 drafted players and I don't think flamewheel was a huge vig target or anything.

Because Scamp was the mafia hit for sure, right? (actually, if one of the hits was a vig, I think it would more likely be Scamp. I do agree that both hits were mafia, though.)


Can you explain what you're thinking here? Scamp was assigned the inventor role, he didn't make any sort of indication that he wouldn't take it, and then took it and played pretty normally. I don't see why anyone but mafia would off him :/
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 20 2011 09:41 GMT
#1111
Apologies for my inactivity. Back to back midterms among other responsibilities don't leave much time for anything else-- I'm half caught up with the thread but that's it. By tomorrow afternoon I'll be off the hook, and back to only semi-lurking instead of being outright inactive Look forward to it!
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 21 2011 01:08 GMT
#1215
Back, and all caught up.

Incog has me scratching my head. Reading most of his posts, I feel confident he's speaking from a town point of view. But then he picked america and nuked pretty much completely out of the blue without any sort of discussion. I'm going to go with my gut on this one and say he's town, but everyone should still keep eyes on him.

I honestly have no clue where the node votes are coming from. Maybe that's because I read through the thread too fast, but even looking back at his posts individually I don't see anything out of place. Could people voting for node give like a two sentence explanation of why he's scum because I really can't come up with anything on my end.

A killer lynch, I can get behind. There seems to be zero thought behind his posts so... yeah. It'd be pretty easy to hide a red behind those posts. Off with his head.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 21 2011 01:10 GMT
#1217
Actually of course incog didn't claim america, then he'd just get politician'd. We do need to figure out how to keep him from getting controlled in the future, though :/
:3
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: ProLeague
18:00
Bracket Stage: Day 2
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
ZZZero.O333
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 232
BRAT_OK 135
ROOTCatZ 119
CosmosSc2 93
EnDerr 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2935
Rain 1769
Horang2 605
ZZZero.O 333
Aegong 62
Dota 2
Pyrionflax193
League of Legends
Dendi1383
Counter-Strike
fl0m6704
olofmeister2555
Stewie2K213
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang09374
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu655
Khaldor233
Other Games
tarik_tv28951
summit1g5446
FrodaN1864
B2W.Neo739
JimRising 485
ViBE47
KnowMe16
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream7920
Other Games
gamesdonequick845
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings246
Other Games
BasetradeTV179
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH83
• HeavenSC 60
• Adnapsc2 26
• Dystopia_ 8
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 27
• HerbMon 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21701
• Ler131
League of Legends
• Doublelift3259
• Shiphtur290
Other Games
• imaqtpie1451
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 14h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 14h
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL Code S
3 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Cheesadelphia
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-05
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.