• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:48
CEST 17:48
KST 00:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes114BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Borderlands 3 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1585 users

[TeSL] Inquiring about foreign player's interest

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 03:50:36
April 22 2011 11:21 GMT
#1
Hello fellow StarCraft enthusiasts and players around the world, my name is SoBadRush, I’m am the caster for TV broadcasts of Taiwan’s TeSL. Recently the league has been discussing the possibility of opening up to non-Taiwan players next season (starting in August). While I must emphasize that this is NOT yet a finally decision (both the league and teams want to be careful in how they handle this, and there is still a possibility that it might be postponed to a future season), I wanted to let everyone know that this is indeed a possibility and also gauge the interest of international players and the international community by getting everyone’s feedback. If you are a competitive player please let me know what you think, if you know someone who might be, please share this info with them! Thanks everyone!

If you don't know about the TeSL yet:
Here is a detailed introduction:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203564
Here is Artosis' video introduction:

Sen's NASL application also includes a short TeSL tour:


I put together a simple FAQ so that you can know what being a pro SCII player for the TeSL in Taiwan would entail. Remember, TeSL has NOT yet decided for sure to let Foreign players join this season, so everything below is based on the assumption that things work out for next season.

How many foreign players can join?
Like I said both the league and teams want to be cautious about this process. For the first season it appears that every team will be allowed one foreign player, therefore there would be a total of 5 spots open. The TeSL is a work in progress, and if everything goes well with the first group of 5 players I’m sure there will be more opportunities in the future.

What are the benefits like?
Simply put: You will not get rich (from the base salary anyway), but if you have a good attitude you will have the experience of a lifetime. Base salary for most players is around $US 1,000 per month (with housing and most food being paid for), however exceptional players may be able to negotiate a higher salary with the team. Ask anyone who has been to Taiwan, the people are friendly and the food is delicious. In Taiwan you will be able to experience traditional Asian culture with most of the Western comforts you are used to. You will be expected to practice and go to events with the team (there are autograph signings and other events all over the island where players interact with fans), but you will get to experience being a hero to many and maybe even the feelings of having screaming teenage girl fans

What kind of contract would I have to sign?
Honestly it’s still too early in the process to know for sure how this will work. Normally Taiwanese players sign with the team for 2 years. But I expect (but once again, I’m not sure!) that foreign players would be able to work out more flexible contracts with the team, maybe for a year or half a year, etc.

How will foreign players be selected?
The TeSL is a draft-based league, meaning that all new players must go through a draft selection where each team take turns choosing players (like seen in the NBA, etc.). Therefore foreign players wishing to play in the TeSL must also go through a draft, however it will likely be a separate draft. Also, players will not have to come to Taiwan for the draft (because not all who make themselves elligable will be picked), we will ask interested players to send in their info and RPs so that teams have a chance to evaluate all of the candidates.

What kind of players is TeSL looking for?
Well, aside from the obvious trait of being good at StarCraft II, the most important requirement is a good attitude, the ability to relocate to Taiwan, and being able to work well with others (This is a team league, not an individual league). Players do not need to learn Mandarin, but should be able to speak basic English (most Taiwanese can speak at least very simple English). With the 5 open slots we hope to get a nice balance of quality players from around the world. While we welcome players of all three of the StarCraft II races, we have a surplus of Protoss in the league right now, and lack of Zerg (Only 2 out of the current 19 players are Zerg). So even though teams will be looking for the best player available they might be more prone to take Zerg (or Terran) players of equal level over Protoss.

Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
April 22 2011 11:26 GMT
#2
this is something that sounds good and if i was better at sc2 id work my ass off just to do this for 6-12 months.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#3
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?

Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 22 2011 11:37 GMT
#4
On April 22 2011 20:34 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?
Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v


No. Good question, I should add that in there. English will do. Although shy, most players/coaches can use simple English to communicate, and we all speak the common language of StarCraft so it should be fine.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
April 22 2011 11:45 GMT
#5
the moment you said that players get paid monthly as salary, ohhhh you're gonna get hell of alot of applications! TeSL fighting!
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
April 22 2011 11:49 GMT
#6
Will foreign fans be able to watch the league anywhere? maybe some description of how the league runs would be better instead of just saying "This is a team league, not an individual league"

I'm really interested to know! =)
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 22 2011 11:57 GMT
#7
On April 22 2011 20:37 SoBaDRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:34 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?
Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v


No. Good question, I should add that in there. English will do. Although shy, most players/coaches can use simple English to communicate, and we all speak the common language of StarCraft so it should be fine.

nice that you say about the common language of StarCraft

that's nice and good, same as korea (the players trying to actively learn english there too, such as MC), which is nice, and makes esports between the continents feel more...connected.

Also I should start relearning mandarin too...(since I kinda got out of the chinese school programs at like 3rd grade = =... (my grandparents were from China, my parents were born in Taiwan, and I was born in the states...so I guess the TeSL'll be a good reason for me to start relearning my chinese :D) hmm

well, good luck to the teams in taiwan at getting foreign players, and hope that the skill levels of all the countries would grow to rival one another

(= =; sorry for weird cheesy talk/random errors in my text.... 5am! I should sleep..)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 22 2011 12:00 GMT
#8
This is a really good chance, would definitely go for it if I wanted to gather great experience!
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 22 2011 12:19 GMT
#9
On April 22 2011 20:49 johanngrunt wrote:
Will foreign fans be able to watch the league anywhere? maybe some description of how the league runs would be better instead of just saying "This is a team league, not an individual league"
I'm really interested to know! =)


There is information here as mentioned abovie:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203564

Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 22 2011 12:42 GMT
#10
Very impressive.

eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 22 2011 12:51 GMT
#11
It would be nice if TeSL starts to interact with the foreign community a bit more. Adding foreigners to the league is a great idea to make the TeSL more attractive to the foreign competitive scene, though I think there needs to be a better connection with foreign fans if the possible foreigner addition is to be successful.

It would be nice if the league was better publicized on TL. Perhaps some good ideas would be opening up a livestream and/or having threads tracking the league and VoDs.

It's great to see Taiwan have such a great e-sports league, and I really think that allowing foreigner competition and increasing publicity for foreigners would really allow more people to enjoy the league's great production values.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 22 2011 13:03 GMT
#12
Sounds pretty good, I could imagine some of the top weaker players doing this to make a name for themselves and improve and then maybe break into the GSL or become a tip top player?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
April 22 2011 13:04 GMT
#13
Oh my god, this would be the coolest thing ever. Foreigners in TeSL. More teams. More everything.

Would love to see this!
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Dubsys
Profile Joined July 2007
Australia122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 13:09:48
April 22 2011 13:09 GMT
#14
this is one of those "once in a lifetime" experiences that would be really cool to go and try out, being in what is an amazing Asian country while being paid to play a game you love seems pretty cool.

by the way, SoBadRush you're very good looking
Patience is bitter, but it bears sweet fruit.
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 22 2011 13:23 GMT
#15
Well, when the qualifiers/drafts start i'll be there for sure ^_^
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
April 22 2011 13:27 GMT
#16
huhu that's something that I would definetely do
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
Chinchillin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States259 Posts
April 22 2011 13:36 GMT
#17
^ seen that man stomp out some damn good competition.
Leenocktopus! InNoVation!
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
April 22 2011 13:59 GMT
#18
Yea this is definitely one of those really cool opportunities, thanks for posting SoBaD! Essentially free rent/food, living and breathing Starcraft, being in Taiwan, pretty awesome :D
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#19
E-sports are going crazy atm. I wish you guys the best of luck regardless of whether you decide to involve foreign players or not.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 22 2011 21:22 GMT
#20
I can't believe this thread got buried! From the description, this seems like a better deal than GSL at the moment: a decent salary, training house, a chance to be on TV, living for a year in a place with some of the night-market food in the world! If I am any good with the game, I'd sign up in an instance!
Thank God and gunrun.
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 595
PiGStarcraft362
TKL 104
Codebar 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35090
Rain 3459
Hyuk 3133
actioN 1907
Horang2 1044
BeSt 383
Larva 376
Light 321
ggaemo 225
Leta 222
[ Show more ]
ZerO 192
Soulkey 182
Snow 146
Barracks 120
Mind 84
Hyun 80
Sharp 62
PianO 58
JYJ53
Sea.KH 50
Aegong 30
Yoon 21
Terrorterran 20
soO 19
Movie 19
Free 19
Backho 18
Sacsri 10
Noble 9
SilentControl 9
HiyA 7
Shine 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6410
singsing3539
qojqva2835
420jenkins228
Fuzer 206
XcaliburYe160
Counter-Strike
markeloff164
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby630
Other Games
tarik_tv35782
gofns15513
FrodaN1691
B2W.Neo1087
crisheroes456
Lowko273
KnowMe241
DeMusliM230
Hui .224
XaKoH 79
QueenE72
Trikslyr45
NeuroSwarm34
ViBE24
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 16
• Michael_bg 6
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 6126
• WagamamaTV416
League of Legends
• Nemesis4841
• Jankos1302
• TFBlade230
Other Games
• Shiphtur233
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
11h 12m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
16h 12m
RSL Revival
18h 12m
Reynor vs Cure
TBD vs Zoun
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 16h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Classic vs TBD
Online Event
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.