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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#1
http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)ROOTFayth_vs_(T)RevSecret_metalopolis_sc2rep_com_20110416/7171

Here's the replay, I need TL's opinion on possible maphack, throughout the whole game I was like wow this guy is good he just counters everything I do

From the early DT to the ghosts to thors, the way he dropped where I had nothing, then near the end of the game you can see he move his army to position himself in the left lane when I was moving there, but he didn't scan or anything (I had an obs over his army)

So yeah if anybody can confirm, I believe it to be a serious case of maphacking

User was warned for this post
jahre
Profile Joined November 2008
United States95 Posts
April 16 2011 07:13 GMT
#2
To put it simply, most probably.

Biggest hints for me:

A) He doesn't scout you early game (in fact, he doesn't scout you at all).

B) He finds that pylon almost right when you make it (at your natural early).

C) He goes and kills your DT structure/tech to it randomly.

D) Cloak ghost tech with no viking.

My answer?

Most probably. But I don't like to call people hackers when it isn't 100 percent obvious. To me, this seems pretty apparent, but you never know.
"I am as bad as the worst, but, thank God, I am as good as the best." -Walt Whitman
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 07:25:16
April 16 2011 07:23 GMT
#3
ROFL

@ 5mins he looks right at your base and has a very good look, including the stalker at your natural even though he hasn't scouted anything outside his main. This is the only base he looks at too BTW.

He also looks at your base again sometime around 6mins~ but it was a very quick glance--again he still hasn't scouted outside his base

Pretty sure that is enough to get him banned

tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
April 16 2011 07:30 GMT
#4
5Minutes in is pretty much enough evidence.
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
April 16 2011 07:31 GMT
#5
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&tag=hacksform&rhtml=true

Just report, they have to look it you being positive or not, so there's no reason for no reporting right way.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
April 16 2011 07:34 GMT
#6
Most obvious maphacking I've seen. Everything screams it but the staring at your fogged base is the most blatant.
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
April 16 2011 07:40 GMT
#7
Yeah, there were several questionable moves by him that were clearly indicative of him maphacking. Zero scouting information for the entire early game and mid game (never even scanned your base or attempted to go on your side of the map once). Also, going 2 rax marauder against 3 stalker pressure into blind engineering bay and turret after expansion? That is a pretty ballsy-ass move to throw down a blind turret below your expo with zero scouting information at all. He also snipes the first proxy pylon as it is going down, basically clicking into the fog of war directly where it is. He also does this again to kill your shrine by A-clicking the map in the fog directly on top of it blind. It is pretty obvious he is hacking.

He is a pretty terrible player, though, and still couldn't win. That was probably the best part =)
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MCeast
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Afghanistan43 Posts
April 16 2011 07:40 GMT
#8
i wasn't really sure if he was hacking until i saw him do a drop on the 5'o clock spawning position, he dropped his units and stimmed then ran down the ramp and focus fired your nexus.

first of all he never scouted the 5'o clock expansion on it's natural, he had no reason to drop there.
secondly why would he stim then run down the ramp?

This is person is a blatant hacker, there were other instances but i think this one was a major one. I
there is a thread for this op, you should search and post it there.
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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
April 16 2011 07:40 GMT
#9
Isn't there already a thread for this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
April 16 2011 07:41 GMT
#10
Holy shit, I lost to him yesterday on a 5 bucks tournament, this could be big. Will look that replays
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BlehBleh
Profile Joined March 2011
United States28 Posts
April 16 2011 07:43 GMT
#11
[5:00] Moves the camera over unscouted base for a long ass time
[5:55] Moves camera over unscouted base again
[8:36] Moves camera over unspotted DT, does the same thing a few times after
[15:36] Moves camera over unscouted 3rd
[18:36] Moves camera over unscouted proxy pylon
[19:29] Moves camera over unscouted zealot
[21:47] Moves camera over unscouted enemy army

There's more than that but I got bored, it's fairly obvious he's maphacking
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 07:46:41
April 16 2011 07:44 GMT
#12
Pretty obvious he was hacking, sadly he lost while hacking which makes it even worse

1) no scouting ever
2) he sent an scv to scout cross map half way through the game
3) he had his army meeting yours always down the alley you were going down with no scanning or vision
4) he stares into the fog at your base multiple times
5) the preemptive stim from the top of 3 o clock into the natural to force the nexus cancel
6) the drop at 3 o clock and immediate attacking of the nexus without scouting it
7) when he was going to your hidden tech he moused over where it was before it was revealed
8) kills your zealot behind the mineral line since he knew it was there

gj for winning though lol, looked like a gg except for the hacking part
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 08:00:22
April 16 2011 07:56 GMT
#13
Side by Side comparison of what the clicks look like @ roughly 9mins 45seconds~ into the game..lol
[image loading]


EDIT:

Taken from SC2 Gears at around 7mins (x1.38 to convert to replay time)

Also the two clicks near where Fayth hid the DT shrine weren't done until around 9mins~ in
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
April 16 2011 08:07 GMT
#14
On April 16 2011 16:30 tgun wrote:
5Minutes in is pretty much enough evidence.


This. No scouting and he does a direct look at your fogged base. Screen caps it and goes back over it like 3-4 more times in the game. No doubt in my mind.
Bozotclown
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom60 Posts
April 16 2011 08:16 GMT
#15
http://drop.sc/6537

Another replay showing him not scouting. Also several instances of map hacking behaviour.
Dicks Everywhere
kotboppel
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)5 Posts
April 16 2011 08:24 GMT
#16
100% maphack

lol@5:00
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 08:42:16
April 16 2011 08:40 GMT
#17
I played this guy TvT the other day and i was really impressed by his drop defense. He was perfect with it and he seemed to avoid my turrets pretty well. I ended up denying him expo with superior positioning and won the game at around 1 hour in with a few BC and killed his starports before he could get enough vikings out. He didn't say gg even though it was one of the closest games i've played in sc2.
Zeles
Profile Joined October 2010
United States335 Posts
April 16 2011 08:42 GMT
#18
On April 16 2011 17:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I played this guy TvT the other day and i was really impressed by his drop defense. He was perfect with it and he seemed to avoid my turrets pretty well. I ended up denying him expo with superior positioning and won the game at around 1 hour in with a few BC and killed his starports before he could get enough vikings out. He didn't say gg even though it was one of the closest games i've played in sc2.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/2098596/RevSecret
kotboppel
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)5 Posts
April 16 2011 08:44 GMT
#19
On April 16 2011 17:42 Zeles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 17:40 starcraft911 wrote:
I played this guy TvT the other day and i was really impressed by his drop defense. He was perfect with it and he seemed to avoid my turrets pretty well. I ended up denying him expo with superior positioning and won the game at around 1 hour in with a few BC and killed his starports before he could get enough vikings out. He didn't say gg even though it was one of the closest games i've played in sc2.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/2098596/RevSecret


lol download his other replays on sc2ranks, obvious maphack is obvious
wysoy
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
April 16 2011 08:45 GMT
#20
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