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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 21:27:41
April 12 2011 21:27 GMT
#66
Can i still sign up? There's still one vote left XXXVIII was full and im a noob

BTW: /IN
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 13 2011 13:58 GMT
#71
Jay, my first maffia game

I still have some problem with the terminoligy though. It's so hard to read Dt not as Dark Templar
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 10:41 GMT
#120
On April 15 2011 13:08 sandroba wrote:
Well I just checked and it's actually 6 AM in sweeden/netherlands so Vain and Forumite are probably actually sleeping. However, judging from this thread varpulis is normally active around this time. Hmmm...


Yup, just got out of bed. its 12:40 now here

ehm, can't we like check if these other person's are posting elsewhere so they are knowingly avoiding posting here?
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 10:43 GMT
#121
Just to add. if that would be the case they sure would have some explaining to do
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 21:38 GMT
#162
On April 16 2011 06:17 sandroba wrote:
Well, right now, I'm still waiting on some kind of response by scholeosis. And the other lurkers should come out of the shadows and post their opnion, or is the situation too confortable that the scum can sit back and realx?


Well i'll come out of the shadows then and will mention there is not very much too say jet. You can only argue that some are more active then others but i don't think any obvious or major slips were made. Sure, Zorkmid has like 50% of the posts but doesn't really really fit the picture of scum(jet?). I think Shcoleosis has displayed an odd behaviour by at first saying I'm still learning :/ and switching from opinion that fast but an explanation for this could be that (s)he really isn't really into this game jet and is just afraid of being hanged the first day. Still until (s)he can give an explenation, my vote is still on him/her.

And btw please tell if your a girl or not. i am sick of typing 2 genders all the time. ifnot i assume your sexless, lol
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 21:39 GMT
#163
On April 16 2011 06:36 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 06:28 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:23 Forumite wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:04 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 05:52 Forumite wrote:
There has been some accusations of scummy behavior allready, actually everyone has except the lurkers (Varp, Senj, Vain) and Shcoleosis have pointed out someone that they think are scummy. There are 4 different people who have been pointed out as scummy by at least two people, at least if my data is correct.

would you care to share your data with the rest of us?

And because I like tripple-posting;

Yes, and you are welcome.

Thank you very much. Am I still a lurker?

Nope, not anymore.

Senj and Vain seem like the lurkers now, but I´m not sure, counting their posts in this thread might be a good idea.


Four if you count this one;)
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 23:55 GMT
#178
Well, She didn't change my opinion on her so:

##Vote: Scholeosis
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 16 2011 15:26 GMT
#206
On April 16 2011 22:11 Forumite wrote:
I will most probably not get online from about an hour to the end of the night. The next day-phase is during the week, I´ll have much more time then to get to the bottom of this then. I don´t have much advice to give in case I get night-killed, but I´ve a few things to add, mostly to identify Sheep/Lurkers.

I´ve been tunneling on the Zorkmid and elmizzt connection, both of them calling me scum for not posting during the start of the first day, when I was asleep and had informed people of this beforehand. I have the feeling that Zorkmid was the talkative Mafia, elmizzt the quiet one. Elmizzt hasn´t really said anything except agreeing with lynching inactives and agreeing with a weird post with weak arguments from Zorkmid.

I get a bit of bad wibes from Vain, not because he´s a slow poster, but because I don´t see him posting his own reasons for jumping on the wagon against Shcoleosis. It didn´t take long for people to start voting once the first vote was in. Zork and Sandroba voted quickly, but they had allready stated they had FoS on Shcoleosis, while Vains voting felt more like he was just agreeing rather than making up his own mind. I´d like to see some more reasons from him.

Senj is also very slow on posting, not saying anything except encouraging analysis.

So Lurkers:
Senj
Vain
elmizzt (with possible Zorkmid connection)


Hmm, the reason i voted for shcoleosis is that in my opinion her behaviour was very scummy like( switching sides, saying things like first time playing guys). Witch was pointed out earlyer by the other players before me. She did not post again untill after i voted for her. I may note that the posts after that were not so much scum behaviour, but i am still not really convinced we have a better alternative. Although zorkmid could be suspected due to throwing accusations out like there is no tomorrow, which could be his strategy but is drawing attention to him and would be very risky if he were to be scum. Nevertheless zorkmid would be my number two but only to him being profoundly accusing. I haven't really looked in the accusations of the others too much but i'll try to post an analysis of them later on.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 01:57 GMT
#227
Well, there it goes. In a few minutes senj will be no more. If he flips over and turns out to be red i'm gonna eat my hat, Serously
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 02:17 GMT
#232
I just want to take this moment and mourn for our departed senj, who turned out to be a town. This death will have an huge impact on us and the game. The rest of this post i will dedicate to our beloved senj. Think of all the moments he was with us and the time we spent together. I still remember the first time i saw him.
On April 15 2011 11:18 Senj wrote:
GL HF broskis. Not sure I agree Eternalmisfit, seeing as we're all relatively new to the mafia game.

He was never much of a talker, but he always told me he tried so hard to change..

On April 15 2011 12:41 Senj wrote:
Yeah, basically. I guess that's kind of the idea of keeping the thread active though, more posts mean more chances to slip up and divulge too much information.

Somewhat unrelated, but I just broke a 9 game lose streak. :D huuuuuge relief there.


Sadly, he fell back in his old behaviour and he spoke to the public only one more time


On April 15 2011 12:54 Senj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:52 elmizzt wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:49 Zorkmid wrote:
I for one am going to vote that we lynch the quiet most innocent seeming player I might even do a character count!

hmmm...how long until we can start eye-ing some of the inactive players and leaning on em a little?


I'm already taking note that we have yet to see Forumite, Vain and Varpulis, however; I feel it's a little early yet. By the halfway mark on the first day I'll be suspicious if we haven't heard from them yet.


After that it was only a matter of time until dark clouds rose above his head. Maybe he wanted to talk but couldn't find a way to express himself. Maybe he searched for words but could never find them. Maybe something else, but we will never know now because our beloved senj is dead
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 02:18 GMT
#233
P.s. This also means no hat-eating will be done tonight!
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 13:06 GMT
#242
On April 17 2011 21:21 Forumite wrote:
Are we supposed to discuss during the night? It just makes me feel like the Mafia get more ammunition to use on who they want to night-kill.

____
Anyway, I like what Varpulis did, making a summary, but I disagree with his summary on Elmizzt. He´s still lurking, he´s posted only one-liner unhelpfull posts except his groundless accusations against me, his post to vote on senj and his long accusation post against Sandroba. Not posting just to post a huge post to defend himself and throw suspicion on another tells me that he could post more if he wanted to, but perhaps he doesn´t because the debate goes the way he wants it to. Then again, Sandroba wasn´t under much suspicion before Elmizzt accused him, so if he is scum and was trying to divert attention, then he didn´t do a very good job of it.


Well, it think we should use all time possible to uncover maffia to prevent misses like senj. Yes he wasn't very active but he was a town as expected. We have a limited number of chances to get it right and sadly we had to lynch an inactive towny. As for being affraid that the maffia gets too much information you'll have to understand one thing perfectly. The maffia already knows who is town and is maffia. There is not much more to know for them. Sure we and the mafia do not know if there is a DT and/or a Doctor but they do not have to uncover themself if they do not want to. We can use all the information there is. The mafia already has all the info and sure as hell aren't gonna lynch one of their own at this moment.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 17:48 GMT
#254
I would also like to point out how the voting went. This is some actual data we can use and not up for debate. But as always it is up for intepretation of us. It could very well be that one of the persons voted for we're scum and the mafia influenced the vote. There has been some swing in vote's which i find very suspicous.

This is how the vote looked 10 hours before closing

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 17 2011 00:38 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 22:31 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Mod: If someone doesn't vote, do they get modkilled?


Yes they do get modkilled

shcoleosis: 2
Vain
Zorkmid

Zorkmid: 1
Forumite

Senj: 2
sandroba
Varpulis

elmizzit: 1
Eternalmisfit

shcoleosis to be lynched on account of getting to 2 votes first

People who haven't voted yet: Shcoleosis, elmizzit, senj


10 hours and 25 minutes remaining till the end of day

And here the final vote:
On April 17 2011 09:27 chaoser wrote:
shcoleosis: 1
Vain

Zorkmid: 1
Forumite

Senj: 6
sandroba
Varpulis
shcoleosis
Zorkmid
Eternalmisfit
elmizzt

Senj to be lynched at 6 votes

Day ends in 1 hour 33 minutes


So in a summarry. shcoleosis lost one vote on her senj gained SIX votes and Elmizzt lost one.
We can conclude from this that there is some serous bandwagoning going on here and maby some influence of the mafia. Keep in mind that there are not one but two mafia members influencing the votes and that we can be sure that 2 of the votes are mafia ones. The mafia makes up already 25% of our population so do not rule out mafia influence out of this vote.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 18:08 GMT
#258
On April 17 2011 23:53 VarpuliS wrote:

Vain FoS
Vain has been semi-active. I'm a little bit suspicious of him because he joined the Shcoleosis bandwagon without giving a reason until prompted to. Bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning is not great town play, and his logic and reasoning just haven't clicked with me. FoS, but not a priority.


Disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is? we could discuss over that and i could try to defend myself which is not advised in a game of mafia so fuck that. Btw didnt anyone notice the vote swing at the last moment or did everyone just stop caring?
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#259
EBWOP: Nindja'ed
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 19:11 GMT
#268
On April 18 2011 03:54 VarpuliS wrote:
ah. I see the misunderstanding here. What I meant to say was "If we do have any blues, we've only got one of each. This was to make it very clear that we must not waste any abilities given to us. If you'd like to lynch me, lynch me. I invite you. It will prove my alignment and deny suspicion in my analyses.

Let me repeat that: If you think i'm scum, go ahead and lynch me.


VarpuliS, did you read the guides that were reccomended?
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 05:41 GMT
#309
On April 18 2011 11:19 Zorkmid wrote:
Ah, my bad. I even asked earlier on whether a roleblocked townie was told, I just forgot!

So I get the feeling that either myself or Varp was the target last night.

Any thoughts?




Medic
You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save. You cannot save yourself.


If you didnt get a pm like "you were saved" or something you can be pretty sure you were not a target
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 05:51 GMT
#310
On April 18 2011 10:54 sandroba wrote:
3. Vain - If for some miracle either of these guys aren't mafia I would take a closer look at this person. All his posts so far have been useless constation of the obvious, questions or fluff posts, none with any content whatsoever. Also he doesn't seem to mind that senj screwed town over and makes a useless post praising our "beloved" useless townie. elmizzt finds it amusing.


Omg, How could you NOT like my necrology of senj
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 10:25 GMT
#314
On April 18 2011 18:12 Forumite wrote:
We know that we have a medic, but we have no idea who it is, nor who was saved. Going out with something like this doesn´t really serve a point, so we can´t identify who it was either.

Look, if I was marked for a night-kill and saved, then the Mafia knows it, the Medic knows it, but there is no way I can prove this to any others without possibly endangering the Medic, and that´s something we don´t want to do.

Like Sandroba saying "I´m roleblocked", it doesn´t give us any info, except that IF someone else was roleblocked then that person only can be quite sure that Sandroba is Scum, but haven´t got a way to expose him.

Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town?


It is not an obvious way to appear more town. If you claimed you were saved like you are now and someone else also would claim that one of you would be lying. That would couse suspicion on both of the claimers and probably would get one of you killed.

Now if your claim is correct it would mean you were town(i really do not think you tried to kill yourself)
And this would also mean VarpuliS would be in the clear. The reasoning behind this would be that if you would be killed while you were clearly suspecting Varpulis then VarpuliS would be drawing unnecessary suspicion on him. Also i still suspect scholeosis because with you AND VarpuliS gone there would be 6 people left. Night kill would mean a townie kill and then the maffia only would have only to persuade one person to win the game. With the leading accuser for scholeosis gone this would be an excellent position for scholeosis to be in. I could also be missing some connections. We now have to figure out who would have a reasonal benefit of you (and Varpulis) gone
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#315
Btw why didnt you say you were saved in the first post?

Did it take you some time to discover the pm?
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